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Thankfully, my Caster gear is already way better than that dungeon gear, so I can safely toss those at my GC for seals and never have to see them on my glorious Roe.

It's hideous (the collar is weird and what is even going on with those marching band hats?).

If what the lala is wearing is the ninja set I'll probably use it for awhile.

Speaking personally, the healer set atleast looks passable to me (not counting the hat), but it's hardly a surprise considering that's what it was designed for in the first place.

I had the same problem with the tank entry, when they for some reason decided to make a entire tier outof it, and seeing it repeated for healer is, to say the least, worrying, since it means we're due for it for all the other entries aswell. SE bending over backwards to make a entire tier outof something that was made explicitly for one type of role in mind.

Still, even if the healer one looks passable to me, I'd be lying if I said I'm not gonna glamour over it, since it did not transferr well from the contest design entry, to ingame model

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Originally Posted by Astral145

I would love to play a battle style healer (dancer)... dps/healer with a real dps rotation healing near by group members as I lay down the damage...

Battle Healer with 3 different rotations.

• Single target dps with amazing damage that uses stacks to land potent single target mitigation heals when needed.

• AOE dps that uses stacks to provide a decent mitigation shield in a large AOE field

• Healer dps rotation that heals any party member with the lowest HP first automatically.

Of course i would still like a healer tool kit but with having the above it would only need to be a minimum tool kit with special skills that utilizes the stacks.

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I want this as well but as a Chemist / Salve-Maker with a gun like in Final Fantasy Tactics. :D

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Originally Posted by Lazaruz

SE bending over backwards to make a entire tier out of something that was made explicitly for one type of role in mind.

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Yeah, I'm really disappointed that THIS is the route they took for these contest entries. Whoever thought this was a good idea should have some sense slapped into them. :/ I actually really liked this contest entry (thinking it would be specifically a healer set) but I'd be lying if I told you I thought all those outfits based on that design looked good from the screencap provided. The poor Roe in the back really does look like he's wearing a CUL set.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

So 24man raid gear is inspired by the healer winner... feels like SE is getting real lazy here.

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Its seems to be the dungeon gear but I agree a bit about the lazy part. We get omega gear that is again just a fanservice from an older game which does not even fit thematically in there. Then they take the winners of the contest and make them into sets for all jobs even though they kinda were designed with certain jobs in peoples mind. This makes the healer gear look really strange as tank gear (imo).

I just really hope that they will do good with the DPS gear set..that looked great as artwork but hopefully also great ingame.

At this point we should be asking for more mogstation glam since new gear glam is so bad :x
They really put a lot of effort in making the clothing original and appealing in mogstation glam...............................

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Originally Posted by Enjuden

We already know she uses that weapon as a monk, not a dancer. She used that multiple times during the storyline, so there's no point in grasping for straws when the evidence was already presented to be not dancer.

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You clearly did not read that i said i was not saying it was Dancer... I am not grasping for straws.... Seriously people learn to read

And yes the gear is ugly as hell, they do seem to be getting lazier.

I have this feeling trailer will pop this week and patch out week after.

I don't see trailer dropping this week and patch out next week.

I'm just ready for that caster set to drop - I hope they make a whole tier out of it for all the classes because it looks awesome!

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Originally Posted by Alleo

This makes the healer gear look really strange as tank gear (imo).

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Which is funny, because the tank set based off the healer design looks good, yet the actual original healer design looks like trash to me.

Delicious clipping on those sets, at this point they should give the option of being bald to every races. 8/

Seems the excitement for contest winner gear dies down once its actually added to the game. The tank set had almost as much disappointment as this.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

Hopefully we get Tactics armour for the actual raid as these are from the dungeon.

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I will have to +1 this opinion as well. I'm fairly confident that's the new dungeon set, I don't believe they'd ever make raid sets that similar to one another.

Going a step further I'm going to guess the new dungeon set will be i305-i315 and will be a way to help newer 70's catch up a little faster.

The appeal of the original healer set concept was the cute puffy-tight 1 piece top+skirt. They made it into an open stiff skirt no different than any other skirt in the game, and the set lost its charm (at least in my opinion). I wonder how a contest winner would feel when their design is made into yet another generic looking set and rewarded as trash dungeon set that no one would use instead of tome gear or something. This has me in fear of disappointment for the caster winner. If they changed a puffy skirt just because it was probably easier, the caster set would either totally change its design or become another disappointment. :(

I knew it would happen, but the male version of the contest gear not having the gap between the top and the legs to show some skin disappoints me. Oh well. I like the overall look of it, despite that. Wasn't my favourite entry but it doesn't look too bad. Definitely different from long robe/dress #53234123 at least. Hope it has dye options...

Really not looking forward to diving into the Lochs for yet another underwater trek. SE PLS. Dungeon looks neat though, hope it's like Shisui where I can just conveniently ignore where it's supposed to be situated if I want to.

I was actually very psyched for the healer design contest winner, and I'm still excited to get the set in game. Same for potential hints towards Dancer and the raid in general. 24-man raids are some of my favourite content in the game, so this is going to be a long two+ weeks!

Hated the contest winner when it was announced and still hate it. Thank the Twelve for glam if this has stats that are even remotely worth using it.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

You can't please everyone.

Literally every time we see a preview of new gear people come in to say that they dislike it. That's fine - but people aren't going to like every piece of gear in the game. Tastes differ. There's also a good chance that even if you dislike certain parts of a set others can be combined elsewhere to create a look that works for those speaking out against the set in question.

It baffles me that more people don't look at things that way.

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Tastes may differ, but good design is good and bad is bad regardless. It's not entirely subjective.

Everyone has their reasons. For me, I hate glamouring. The glamour system this game uses is so convoluted, and user-unfriendly that I hate doing it, even if I like the results. And you have to re-glamour all the freaking time. Any gear set that simply works as is is a godsend, for me personally. Every crappy set just makes me face palm. Need to make/buy prisms, obtain from storage the gear I want to glamour from, then likely dye it all over again. Then if I'm glamouring from class specific gear, I need to decide which class gets the glamour. In those cases especially, I'm praying that the gear looks good, because I can't glamour that away. It's such a pita.

Glamour isn't the solution to poorly designed gear. Every single piece of gear should be able to stand on it's own.

I really like the group art at the end.

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Originally Posted by FaileExperiment

Tastes may differ, but good design is good and bad is bad regardless. It's not entirely subjective.

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The only objective parts of a design are related to its practical implications. A bikini is going to impair movement less than a stiff full-body armor, so it's a "good" design where mobility is relevant, but it leaves a LOT of openings for attacks, so it's bad when you want to actually survive an attack.
However, this is a game. There is absolutely zero practical effect the design have on anything you do, so be it a bikini, a full plate armor or a clowns costume...it's all the same. In the end, it's entirely a matter of preference. It's just that some preferences are more common (that's why elegant, simple dresses and the like are more likely to be considered "good" than showy attires, for example), while others are less so.

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Originally Posted by FaileExperiment

Glamour isn't the solution to poorly designed gear. Every single piece of gear should be able to stand on it's own.

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I agree. But that's actually rather difficult to do since people do have varied tastes. Then there's the fact that every set they design pretty much needs a counterpart that follows a similar theme (if there is any, that is)...since every class needs the same tier of gear. It's just that they follow that theme a bit too strongly in some cases...

As for the armor itself, I like maybe one or two variations of it, but the hats are...well, they have pretty negative connotations for me for some reason. Always hated the classical style that completely covers the head with a simple piece of tight-fitting cloth like that. It completely takes the character out of whoever wears it, making them look like...well...puppets?! At least to me. The Au Ra's at least seems to fit a healers theme (still, one lacking in character, but hey), but the other two are just eyesores that fit nothing at all.

Oh my god. Gear design keeps going downhill....