Enhanced GP regen

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

ITT we complain about things with literally no downside

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Literally no downsides doesn't make it good, or even worth noting. It makes zero impact on the gathering experience beyond shaving a few microseconds off of your downtime. You're still downing cordials like they're free shots, you're still sitting around with your thumb firmly wedged between your buttocks for a long time doing nothing while your GP meter regenerates.

Every ability we've gotten from 60-70 has been a solid quality of life improvement, even if it's not necessarily the most useful thing ever. If your husband/wife makes you a clay mug for your birthday you'd be disappointed the same way you'd be disappointed that the trait you've been working to 70 might as well not even exist for all it does.

You're shaving more than microseconds.

You got 5 GP back every 3 RL seconds before this trait (excluding times engaged with a node, which drops the natural regen down to 0). Now, you get back an additional 20% - or 6 GP every 3 seconds.

Timed nodes are every 2 game hours, right? Except for the Ephemeral ones that are up for 4 game hours and down for 20. If you needed to hit 1 node every time they popped, previously, you needed cordials of some sort in order to keep up with your GP usage - especially if you were using one of the Gathering % buffs.

Now, you get back 720 GP, minus the time lost engaged with a node, plus 5 for every actual collect on that node, for every 2 game hours. That's enough that you can avoid Cordial use entirely, unless you are looking at getting a second node within that 2 game hour window.

I think this trait is most useful for FSH since we are constantly gaining GP even while fishing. I definitely feel it more when using FSH than BTN, for example.

inb4 SE just removes this trait from the game.

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Originally Posted by Nerfworthy

I think this trait is most useful for FSH since we are constantly gaining GP even while fishing. I definitely feel it more when using FSH than BTN, for example.

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Even when spearfishing you regenerate GP.

I really think they should've given something different to miner and botanist. It might work for Fisher, but for what Roth said to be a thing, you'll have to sit on your ass doing nothing in that class for the trait to be meaningful, since actively gathering now reduces your GP regen with this trait.

Actually, whether or not active gathering reduces your GP regen is debatable, depending upon your latency and probably other factors as well. You could gather faster than once every 3 seconds (the GP regen rate) so active gathering was a faster means of regenerating GP (compared to sitting on your duff) prior to this trait. I'm do not know whether active gathering, due to the swing speed, is better or worse than standing GP regen with the trait.

If the trait were for 7 points of GP regen per 3 seconds, or more, then standing around goofing off would be faster regen, but at 6? I don't know.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Actually, whether or not active gathering reduces your GP regen is debatable, depending upon your latency and probably other factors as well. You could gather faster than once every 3 seconds (the GP regen rate) so active gathering was a faster means of regenerating GP (compared to sitting on your duff) prior to this trait.

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Wait. But isn't the gathering animation about 3s in duration? I thought I remembered reading that.

My above post aside, there's a really simple way to make the level 70 GP trait feel as impactful as it should:

Instead of having it increase GP regeneration by 20%, have it increase GP generation by 20%. From all sources. Including Cordials.

Now that would be impactful.

Or they could just make it effect gathering successes, instead.

It changed nothing for me.

One hour between nodes still takes a Hi-cordial, 2 hours still takes HQ watered cordial, 3 hours still takes nothing.

Even if they gave us 6GPs / successful gather as well, it would change nothing.

I have no complaints, just see no real bonus from this bonus.

The passive has to be balanced for all DoL classes. Right now it's bad for MIN and BOT but decent for FSH, so it is currently unbalanced.
Simply increasing the value so it's useful for MIN and BOT would still make it just as unbalanced because then FSH would be benefiting way too much from it.

A proper solution would be to change the trait entirely so that it did something like restore a certain amount of GP (10?) after finishing a node or catching a fish with a rod.

Lately, I have not been generating gp while not on my gatherer. 2 weeks ago I was fishing i had about 120 gp, pvp popped, when i got back i had absolutely 0 gp. Today I logged on about 3:30pm and pvped for a bit and checked my retainers, then went fishing and when i changed to fisher i had 267/659 gp. Is this normal, am i missing something, i have googled to see if anyone else has this problem or if this is normal and found nothing.

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Originally Posted by Nimue

Lately, I have not been generating gp while not on my gatherer. 2 weeks ago I was fishing i had about 120 gp, pvp popped, when i got back i had absolutely 0 gp. Today I logged on about 3:30pm and pvped for a bit and checked my retainers, then went fishing and when i changed to fisher i had 267/659 gp. Is this normal, am i missing something, i have googled to see if anyone else has this problem or if this is normal and found nothing.

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Your GP drops to 0 when you die.

Well, that completely answers that riddle! Thanks so much for clearing this up :)

I've noticed some difference myself, for example gathering for scrips with 2hr between nodes. I can skip a few HQ watered Cordial inbetween nodes, then when my times become a bit to unsynched, one watered Cordial sets it straight.

Compare this to popping a watered cordial inbetween almost every node without the trait.

It's not a massive difference, but a bonus nonetheless.