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I have a question related to the Garleans, What happens to regions conquered by the empire? For example, when Ala Mihgo was captured by the Garleans, what happened to the people who lived there who didn't flee?

Ferne always bringing juicy posts! It's about time to rename localization forum to "Localization and Lore"! ^^

...and i still want LOC team filter at dev tracker so i can see their posts there once again! /o/

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Originally Posted by Nahaara

I have a question related to the Garleans, What happens to regions conquered by the empire? For example, when Ala Mihgo was captured by the Garleans, what happened to the people who lived there who didn't flee?

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By what mission 46 shows, seems like they brainwash them.

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Originally Posted by Lienn

By what mission 46 shows, seems like they brainwash them.

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Sounds similar to a country in the real world which I will not name, besides, you probably know of it already since it's on the news almost daily nowadays :P

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Originally Posted by Nahaara

I have a question related to the Garleans, What happens to regions conquered by the empire? For example, when Ala Mihgo was captured by the Garleans, what happened to the people who lived there who didn't flee?

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Ala Mhigo was occupied by the Garlean forces after it's siege and subsequent fall. Gaius Van Baelsar (the Garlean legatus with the gunblade) was appointed Viceroy of the city by the Emperor, and he has kept the city in check to this day. Some adults were supposedly pushed into forced labor camps in and near the city, and children were indoctrinated and sent off to train in Garlemald to be soldiers in the Garlean Military.

Apparently the living conditions in Ala Mhigo are quite rough, though not to a point where it would incite riots or rebellion - although there is an Ala Mhigan resistance located outside the city walls.

Just wanted to bump this so that people that follow the dev. tracker are aware! Check out the awesome post from Fernehalwes where he answers some great questions about lore!

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Just wanted to bump this so that people that follow the dev. tracker are aware! Check out the awesome post from Fernehalwes where he answers some great questions about lore!

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Ooh, ouch! They blocked the LOC team from showing up on the Dev Tracker rather than just blocking any community rep posts in the Localization section? That makes me a little sad.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Just wanted to bump this so that people that follow the dev. tracker are aware! Check out the awesome post from Fernehalwes where he answers some great questions about lore!

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Awesome indeed! ^^

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Greetings OskarHelvig!

Thank you for your post and your interest in Eorzea's lore.

As people who frequent the Localization forums already know, I'm a huge fan of in-game mythology, and always try to ninja as much flavor text into my translations as the lore team will let me. I've been given the OK to answer some of your questions, so I'll try my best to slake your thirst for knowledge (knowing that most of my responses will only just lead to new questions...and the never-ending cycle will continue).

1. In general, how open-minded is the average Eorzean? (ex. Accept same-sex couples? Those who do not believe in the Twelve?)
   
   Answer: Though many of the races experienced rocky pasts, currently, tolerance is, for the most part, the norm in Eorzea. The main reason behind this being that the region is a veritable melting pot of races who have worked together throughout recent history to survive the hardships thrust upon them. This does not mean that there are do not exist groups which are significantly more closed-minded. For example, while Gridania and Limsa Lominsa are fairly open about having dealings with the some of the more amicable beast tribes (such as the sylphs, goblins, and Qiqirn), the sultanate of Ul'dah are wary of the tribes, in part due to their prolonged conflict with the Amalj'aa.
   
   The same can be said regarding religion. Each city-state has a patron (matron) deity, and most people in that city-state will follow the teachings of that god or goddess. There are, for the most part, however, no strict religious codes that must be followed. Some Eorzeans will choose to worship a deity connected to their profession (for example, weavers often follow Nymeia the Spinner). Some follow the deity associated with their nameday. There are even some Eorzeans who choose not to follow the teachings of the Twelve, but they are few and far between...and often will not admit it. The exception to this rule can be seen in Ishgard, where they take the teachings of Halone very seriously...to the point that the church and state have become inseparable. They go as far as calling those who do not follow the Fury 'unbelievers,' and those who are found to have communicated with the dragons of Dravania (the mortal enemies of Ishgard), are branded as heretics and in some cases executed.
   
   
2. Can different races crossbreed?
   
   Answer: Yes, but it is rare...and often difficult due to cultural differences, etc. which is why you don't see it often. The lore team has informed me that there will be future quests/events that touch on this and other issues, such as love and marriage.
   
   
3. How widespread is the worship of the Twelve?
   
   Answer: See the answer to question 1. As for geographical distribution, worship of the Twelve is, for the most part, limited to Eorzea.
   
   
4. Is there a mythology about the Twelve that isn’t mentioned in-game? (ex. Holy books, manuscripts, rituals, etc.)
   
   Answer: Yes, a great deal of mythology exists. Unfortunately, a lot remains unreleased. The storyline in 2.0 should reveal much more about the Twelve, but until then, I leave you with this Fun Fact: perhaps you have noticed, but in several of the dungeons in La Noscea you will find locations on your maps with names like "Llymlaen's Folly" or "Llymlaen's Trial." These are, in fact, sacred sites for the followers of the Navigator--each representing one of the 12 chapters in the tale of Llymlaen's Ascent. As part of their worship, followers risk their lives to perform yearly pilgrimages, visiting all twelve sites in the order they appear in the tale.
   
   The chapters (in order) are as follows:
   
   Llymlaen's Folly
   Llymlaen's Flight
   Llymlaen's Tempest
   Llymlaen's Clarity
   Llymlaen's Resolve
   Llymlaen's Bearing
   Llymlaen's Trial
   Llymlaen's Encounter
   Llymlaen's Stand
   Llymlaen's Triumph
   Llymlaen's Oath
   Llymlaen's Ascent
   
   
5. Can you expand on the history and origins of races?
   
   Answer: The lore is there, but it contains far too much information to reveal here on a forum post. However, I 100% understand your desire to learn more about the backgrounds and cultures of the Five Races, and have personally pushed the lore team into looking into some way we cannot get more of that info into the game and up on the Lodestone. In the meantime, (if you haven't already) you can check out a few of the lore posts in the Localization forums, such as this one on Roegadyn names.
   
   
6. Does Garlean technology have civic/public use outside of the military in Garlemald?
   
   Answer: Absolutely. Magitek is the foundation of their civilization and the main reason behind their quick rise to power. Though most of the technology is developed by and for the military, many of the inventions are reworked for civic/public use. Further information on the Garlean Empire will be released from version 2.0, as their presence in Eorzea will become ever more prevalent in the coming months.
   
   
7. Charging an additional $3 per character slot is absolutely brutal to many role-players who enjoy playing the role of more than one character. Are there any plans to alleviate this additional fee at all with version 2.0 and beyond?
   
   Answer: I'm guessing that Bahyone will redirect you on this one. ;)

I hope that helps!

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Fernehalwes has achieved the rank of deity on the forum. o_O
I will now worship Fernehalwes.

Thank you so very much for all that lore! We need more, always more! :D

Color me impressed, this level of dev interactivity is something we only dreamed of in FF XI. After reading through all of Ferne's old posts, I can say it's very heartening to know there's someone who's both enthusiastic about the lore and actually accessible.

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Originally Posted by Nahaara

I have a question related to the Garleans, What happens to regions conquered by the empire? For example, when Ala Mihgo was captured by the Garleans, what happened to the people who lived there who didn't flee?

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They mention in game a bit about how the Garleans locked down the city of Ala Mihgo and only let other Garleans go in and out. I can only hope they eventually make that city a hostile one in the game. Maybe make raids or what not. Would be pretty sick.

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I leave you with this Fun Fact: perhaps you have noticed, but in several of the dungeons in La Noscea you will find locations on your maps with names like "Llymlaen's Folly" or "Llymlaen's Trial." These are, in fact, sacred sites for the followers of the Navigator--each representing one of the 12 chapters in the tale of Llymlaen's Ascent. As part of their worship, followers risk their lives to perform yearly pilgrimages, visiting all twelve sites in the order they appear in the tale.

The chapters (in order) are as follows:

Llymlaen's Folly
Llymlaen's Flight
Llymlaen's Tempest
Llymlaen's Clarity
Llymlaen's Resolve
Llymlaen's Bearing
Llymlaen's Trial
Llymlaen's Encounter
Llymlaen's Stand
Llymlaen's Triumph
Llymlaen's Oath
Llymlaen's Ascent

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Ive been wondering about this myself, and I already have these locations on record!

Llymlaen's Folly - Cassiopeia Hollow - West
Llymlaen's Flight - Cassiopeia Hollow - North
Llymlaen's Tempest - Cassiopeia Hollow - East
Llymlaen's Clarity - Cassiopeia Hollow - South
Llymlaen's Resolve - Shposhae Map 1 - East
Llymlaen's Bearing - Shposhae Map 1 - West
Llymlaen's Trial - Shposhae Map 2 - East (via southwest path on map 1)
Llymlaen's Encounter - Shposhae Map 5 - West (west of where the Giant Remora roams)
Llymlaen's Stand - Shposhae Map 3 - East (east of Lone Coeurl room)
Llymlaen's Triumph - [unreleased]
Llymlaen's Oath - [unreleased]
Llymlaen's Ascent - [unreleased]

Side note: The Lighthouse southwest of Widow Cliffs is known as "Llymlaen's Ring"... perhaps a future quest could start or end here?

Thank you so much for the lore! That was very interesting. :3

I'll be waiting on an answer about the $3 per character fee though, as I just can't afford this game as it is. lol

Now this is the right thread where I could vent my disappointment for the mess that happened in the lore of THMs and CNJs after the 1.20 class reforms, but Fernehalwes put me in such a huge happy mood that I'll avoid doing that... for now :P

Meh, afterall it would be useless anyway, nobody would agree with me except people looking for any possible reason to criticize the game.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

Ooh, ouch! They blocked the LOC team from showing up on the Dev Tracker rather than just blocking any community rep posts in the Localization section? That makes me a little sad.

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This is because if Ferne and Eemeefu showed up in the Dev tracker, they'd spam it to high hells with "thanks for catching that bug" all the time.

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Originally Posted by Monsalvato

Now this is the right thread where I could vent my disappointment for the mess that happened in the lore of THMs and CNJs after the 1.20 class reforms, but Fernehalwes put me in such a huge happy mood that I'll avoid doing that... for now :P

Meh, afterall it would be useless anyway, nobody would agree with me except people looking for any possible reason to criticize the game.

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No, actually a number of people I know have been commenting on how it doesn't really make sense, lore-wise, that the Conjurers are no longer the elementalists and the Thaumaturges, which supposedly drew power from the divide between life and death, now just fling fireballs. From a purely game mechanic standpoint, I understand why they made the changes and actually kind of like them! But lore-wise... it kind of seems like both jobs just kind of broke and don't really make sense anymore.

BUT! More and more accessible lore both in-game and on the official sites makes me squee. Can't wait to see where they go with that!

lol Troll Fail

Hi guys! I'm going to accuse someone who plays the same game as me of having less of a life for no apparent reason in a thread full of people who clearly think otherwise! Guess I'm just a masochist... or am THAT DAMN AWESOME.

/flex alpha nerd muscles


EDIT: Looks like the offending post got nuked so this one no longer has context! Oh well.

Thank you for the great post, Fernehalwes!

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

The storyline in 2.0 should reveal much more about the Twelve, but until then, I leave you with this Fun Fact: perhaps you have noticed, but in several of the dungeons in La Noscea you will find locations on your maps with names like "Llymlaen's Folly" or "Llymlaen's Trial." These are, in fact, sacred sites for the followers of the Navigator--each representing one of the 12 chapters in the tale of Llymlaen's Ascent. As part of their worship, followers risk their lives to perform yearly pilgrimages, visiting all twelve sites in the order they appear in the tale.

The chapters (in order) are as follows:

Llymlaen's Folly
Llymlaen's Flight
Llymlaen's Tempest
Llymlaen's Clarity
Llymlaen's Resolve
Llymlaen's Bearing
Llymlaen's Trial
Llymlaen's Encounter
Llymlaen's Stand
Llymlaen's Triumph
Llymlaen's Oath
Llymlaen's Ascent

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Wow, you could make a really great quest/series of quests based off of just this alone. It sounds like you may already be planning this for 2.0. If future FFXIV quests are going to be based off of deep and interesting lore like this, then we have a lot to look forward to!

/happy

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Originally Posted by Verence

Hi guys! I'm going to accuse someone who plays the same game as me of having less of a life for no apparent reason in a thread full of people who clearly think otherwise! Guess I'm just a masochist... or am THAT DAMN AWESOME.

/flex alpha nerd muscles

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Hehe Paniniro picked the wrong party to crash.

To quote a certain someone.

Very cool ferrenhalwes!

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Originally Posted by Biggs

They mention in game a bit about how the Garleans locked down the city of Ala Mihgo and only let other Garleans go in and out. I can only hope they eventually make that city a hostile one in the game. Maybe make raids or what not. Would be pretty sick.

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I concur. Maybe have the raiders part of the resistance or something of that sort, like have the resistance leader(s) call on us adventurers for help.

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Originally Posted by Nahaara

I concur. Maybe have the raiders part of the resistance or something of that sort, like have the resistance leader(s) call on us adventurers for help.

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That would be badass. Or make it so you can do repeatable raids Harriet Tubman style and keep fighting your way in and out to free more people each time. I really hope they read some of these, and they are picking up what we are laying down here lol