No commendations

If i dps, i com the other dps if they deserve it.
If i tank, the dps gets it.
If i ever lvl a healer, ill give it to the dps.

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Originally Posted by SeriousxSarcasm

But it really boils down to the people you end up with. Some com based on performance. A lot com purely on "was this person pleasant to play with?"

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actually this ^

for me it's not about skill or gear at all but about the teamwork - if a overgeared tank mass pulls cause he is used to this in a grp with 2 undgeared dds I surely give the com to one of those not to the tank. also I like healers who find a fair balance between sup & dps, here again f.e. a sch who's in cleric 99% of time relying healing/buffing to their fairy won't get any comms from me. sometimes I found myself flashed of a clever LB usage along the way, this is what catches my attention. in the end it's all about chemistry....

When I heal I generally com the tank unless they are awful, when I tank I generally com the healer unless they are awful. When I DPS which is rare, I'll flip a coin between the healer and tank depending on who did the best job. Generally DPS gets a com if they were mega useful with sprouts or something.

There are a few reasons you might not get a com even though you're doing really well. more than I'm gonna list but the first one happens a lot to me.

Sometimes I wish I could com more than 1 person. So unfortunately people who deserve them often don't get them.

Another issue could be that the people who are giving out coms don't understand your class very well so they don't have a very sound basis for making an educated decision. That's not always their fault. I only grasped a decent idea of what every class should be doing because I end up leveling a lot of them. I don't understand every nuance of say drg or mnk, primarily cuz I enjoy brd and nin more. But I know enough.

If I tank, a healer gets it unless I die 30 times. If I dps, another dps gets it. If I heal, which is rarely, a tank gets it. If there is a new person to content, they always get it regardless. Gotta respect the sprouts!!

If you want to be recognized (receiving commendations), then go above and beyond what is entailed for your specific role.

I think people have fallen into this pit of self-entitlement regarding things such as commendations. If you expect them, then you're doing it wrong. You need to earn them. And not everyone is going to commend you, even if you gave 200%.

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Originally Posted by Kyln

If you want to be recognized (receiving commendations), then go above and beyond what is entailed for your specific role.

I think people have fallen into this pit of self-entitlement regarding things such as commendations. If you expect them, then you're doing it wrong. You need to earn them. And not everyone is going to commend you, even if you gave 200%.

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I have to agree with everything Kyln mentioned - No one should feel that they're entitled to comms. That being said, you're more likely to get noticed if you've been outstanding with your performance.
Personally, I think exceptional awareness and having initiative plays a key role in capturing my attention when it comes to giving out comms.

For healers, I expect more than just the usual heal and dps (it's expected for our healer meta after all). I'd be looking for things like: E4E during big pulls in instances, refreshing SS on the tank after each engagement in dungeons, virus/disable during tank busters, sacred soil/CU during predictable raid-wide aoes, immediate use of esuna/leeches/ED for pacification, using Fluid Aura on ranged adds to bring them into aoe range, ... the list goes on.

On top of good dps, I'd also look at things like: bards automatically playing foes for mage and healer dps or bards playing ballad for healers when it counts (especially during crucial moments), bards using Wanderer's Paean on debuffs/pacification, nins using initiation with their goad, etc

For tanks, having awareness with their party's gear and capability is key when they're pulling. It's a big no if I see the tank doing huge pulls when the healer or dps are undergeared, especially if they continue to do so even after struggling to survive the first big pull.

I guess other factors for me include: whether they said hi in the beginning/ty at the end of a run, they've been doing mechanics properly, being courteous, and pulling their weight throughout.
... Unfortunately I'm usually quite lenient when it comes to giving out the comms though. As long as you say hi and you've been pleasant to be around, you'd most likely get it if you've been performing well. If I can't still decide who's performed the best in that instance, it all comes down to clever names and glamour :p

Got 3 comms in sohm hm as a dps crazed healer.

Personally I don't care about comms. Until I do a 24 man, and I solo heal while stance dancing and keeping the tank alive..

I get maybe 1 or 2 comms every 8 or so df groups. I always run with my wife in party though, and usually the other slots are filled with fc members. So i rarely see comms at all to be honest. ^^

I would like to see something done to change this. I would like to have the gilded magitek.. and sometime before 7.0.. xD

As a tank, I used to always recom the healer in parties, but that was for lv 1-49 dungeons. After 49, you have to impress me to get my recom, usually a dps does a far better job than the healer and they get my recom. Just because you are performing your ROLE, doesn't mean auto recom, your role is a healer.

I don't expect thanks or recom simply for being a tank. You shouldn't either for just being a healer.

I think most people are like me, because on my SMN I usually get 2 recom per run, I have actually seen 3's as well even in PoTD. Something I have never since as a tank, 3 recoms.

Usually run dungeons in a premade, but on the off chance I am going into a dungeon without any of the following

2x DPS slots open - Be the DPS which didn't think they are a tank
1x Healer 1 DPS Open - Always the healer no matter what
1x Tank 1 DPS Open - Tank

8 man content - 1 of the 2 healers, the off tank or the none suicidal dps

With regard to the 1x healer/1x tank and 1x dps open, always the healer or tank and never the dps? I suppose this doesn't include situations where the tank or healer are average or worse and the dps is excellent.

I find the more I spam Holy and Assize, the more comms I get! ^_^

Nobody knows the mystery of why you aren't getting comms, it could be between the chair and the keyboard. I always get comms and I'm not even a healer or tank.

Are you a likeable person? were you popular in school? do you have many friends? do you even bother to say hello in party chat?

You can't just go through your ff life expecting people to reward you for showing up, do something important, do something noticeable, don't just bot your way through pressing 1-5 on your keyboard.

I once had a guildhest where one of the members asked for comms because they were close to one of the prizes. The mount I think. Comm begging automatically means you will not get my comm.

When it comes to commendations I may do the following:
1. Commend a healer if their understanding of DPS/healing balance is exceptional.
2. Commend a tank if their DPS/is above average while keeping up with big pulls.
3. If tank/healer are not that good, I commend the DPS who made the run faster.
4. If all of them sucked I don't commend anyone else.

Note: I parse most of my dungeon runs and that allows me to be more objective with commending people.

I don't commend healers that:
1. Have very low or zero DPS.

I don't commend tanks that:
1. Don't know that tanks have a DPS stance and a tanking stance, and that they should optimize and use both.

I don't commend DPS that:
1. Don't make an effort to push for higher numbers to make the run go faster.

And I take particular issue with healers that even when encouraged to DPS bring an endless list of excuses not to do it.

I always get comms

I give them based on this

1. Outfit
2. Race
3. Skill

I usually do a fair amount of DPS while healing (probably about 50-70% of the time I am in cleric stance in a regular dungeon run)-- I honestly find the commendations to be random. There are times I carry the group hard, heal and DPS like crazy and do mechanics others are supposed to do and still receive nothing. There have also been times I have basically gone AFK mid dungeon or caused a wipe and have received all three (or four+ in eight-man content) commendations. I sometimes think people just give them randomly :P

For me as a healer main, I find it depends on the dungeon/trial and what I do. Trial roulette literally never any comms, as people tend to just leave the duty the moment it ends (guilty of that myself sometimes also).

I typically only give comms to people I feel deserve it, like a tank that pulls really big and gets us through a dungeon really fast. If I'm in 8 man and the other healer shows 0 for DPS on ACT then they absolutely will not get any from me. Healers that don't DPS I refuse to give comms to.

The easiest way to get a comm is be an experienced player, but the polite one.

Like in dungeons, trials or raids you can give advices first before the fight starts. New players will think that you're kind enough to give advice politely (not by insulting them because they're bad at first run)

Or as a healer (that's the fastest way for me) you heal and perform a little DPSing by giving DoT. Use Rescue when a player got stuck and unable to move. Casting HoT like Medica 2 will help too.

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Originally Posted by White-Magic

For healers, I expect more than just the usual heal and dps (it's expected for our healer meta after all). I'd be looking for things like: E4E during big pulls in instances, refreshing SS on the tank after each engagement in dungeons, virus/disable during tank busters

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Pretty sure healers don't have Virus anymore.
What's SS (other than Sacred Soil, which I don't see why it'd be used after an encounter)? If it's Stoneskin or Shroud of Saints, that's also been removed.

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Originally Posted by Squintina

Pretty sure healers don't have Virus anymore.
What's SS (other than Sacred Soil, which I don't see why it'd be used after an encounter)? If it's Stoneskin or Shroud of Saints, that's also been removed.

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You're replying to a comment from May and an expansion ago.

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Originally Posted by Tridus

You're replying to a comment from May and an expansion ago.

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lol yeah, I should probably have looked at that. I saw it on recent threads and was reading the whole thread, but didn't look at timestamps.

I don't see why the healer would be more entitled to commendation than the dps or the tank.
I personaly only command the person who did best, be it DPS or heal.

I'm a WHM main and a stern advocate of DPS'ing as a Healer. If I see a Healer who does both (ie. not your typical bot/netflix Healer who only knows how to Cure full HP targets), they'll probably get my comm.

However, in certain dungeons, such as Sohm Al (Hard) back before Stormblood, if I saw DPS making effort on rotating stuns on exploding jellies (you know, the small but helpful little details), as well as punching out decent numbers along the way, I'd throw a comm their way if the tank was nothing to write home about. Overall it's the little things that get my attention - not just the role. I don't 'expect' commendations just because I healed, though I tend to get them given how much effort I put into DPS'ing as a Healer.

Just so you know, if you expect every player you come across to throw a comm your way, that pretty much undermines the purpose of the commendation system.

Much like respect, you have to work for your comms. I don't comm for just joining DF. If you impress me, you will get a comm. If you make the dungeon take longer, you won't get a comm. DPSing and healing will not earn you a comm, that's expected of you.

Hey,

I tend to regularly get comms as a healer :)

Although I’ve seen healers in the past who:

1. Don’t aoe enough (gravity/miasma 2/holy and assize) and at the same time making sure the tank has regen or shields applied. If the healer and the dps are doing their aoe properly it makes a big pull less risky as everything dies faster!

2. Don’t prepare shields or have heals ready for big damage.

3. Know when to single target heal or group heal - it’s faster to single target heal (in situations where one or two people are low) and costs less mana.

4. I don’t see many healers who being esuna and use it much.

Good luck :)

omg why is this thread still going?! I posted this like almost over a year ago... Let the salt die folks DX

what are the comms for anyway?

I only comm on Tuesdays.

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Originally Posted by MercuryAcetylene

what are the comms for anyway?

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You can get rewards from a NPC in Old Gridania. I know you get at least one title, and later, some minions. Beyond that, I'm not certain.

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

You can get rewards from a NPC in Old Gridania. I know you get at least one title, and later, some minions. Beyond that, I'm not certain.

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Two mounts and some glamour.

No one owes you a comm for anything.

Just play to the best of your ability and if you get one or two be happy.

Honestly, coms should be given for outstanding play. In today’s society, our youth seem to feel that they are entitled to everything , no matter what effort given . Kind of sad that teachers aren’t allowed to fail children in school or now amateur competition events don’t even give bronze - platinum, gold then silver.....seriously? Or everyone should get something for participation. If it means that much to you to have a com in a game, just play your best and improve where you can and take critism as constructive . If you don’t get one and you are having a tantrum, do better next time

Honestly, coms should be given for outstanding play. In today’s society, our youth seem to feel that they are entitled to everything , no matter what effort given . Kind of sad that teachers aren’t allowed to fail children in school or now amateur competition events don’t even give bronze - platinum, gold then silver.....seriously? Or everyone should get something for participation. If it means that much to you to have a com in a game, just play your best and improve where you can and take critism as constructive . If you don’t get one and you are having a tantrum, do better next time

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

No one owes you a comm for anything.

Just play to the best of your ability and if you get one or two be happy.

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A lot of people owe me comms already, but they are either too lazy to give them or have the worst perception ever.

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Originally Posted by MercuryAcetylene

what are the comms for anyway?

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Nothing important, achievements for a few things, gold plated mech mount, I believe a crown for your chocobo, few other things don't remember offhand.

500 with the 3 60s of each type DPS, Tank, Healer, 1K dungeons completed for Mentorship enrollment.

Beyond these things it serves no purpose, other than to say people liked whatever about you to comm ya.

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Originally Posted by Charisma

A lot of people owe me comms already, but they are either too lazy to give them or have the worst perception ever.

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Maybe it's your entitle attitude that makes you not get comms.