PS4 Pro Boost Mode

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

That's not going to happen and you know it. The PC only version of FFXIV flopped hard, and SE have seen the success and profit of FFXIV on multiple platforms including PlayStation. Fortunately SE are smart enough to learn the lesson that you are deliberately ignoring.

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The PC only version flopped because the game was running on the horribly unoptimized engine that powered FFXIII which was designed for linear level designs not open world maps. How can you sell a product to a market where the game is virtually impossible to run at a reasonable performance level? It wasn't even consistent at any point. We're not even getting into the plethora of other problems the game had outside of technical ones.

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Originally Posted by Anera

oh did't not know it on NDA

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Yea all Sony betas in there agreements state that the features that are not made public are ment to be tested and given any bug reports while keeping to a NDA but becuse people leak the images with the name and icon blurred it makes it impossible to say who leaked the images. When features aren't mentioned it usually means they are in last stages of testing and the public "boost mode" may be different to the beta's boost mode

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

According to another video, the game is stable at 60fps (cap), but presumably it's possible that in very crowded areas, the Pro will start to slow a little - just as average PCs do.

Boostmode enables what should have been there when PS4Pro launched, the ability to boost performance for games not specifically coded for the extra resource. It's very nice to see Sony enabling this feature, it gives a existing owners of standard PS4s lot more reason to buy a PS4 Pro now since you can be relatively assured that the majority of games will run better at 1080p60 than on PS4 (original).

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Boost mode is not perfect, boost mode is using stock clocks for GPU (+100mhz) and CPU (+500mhz) that is the cause of boost performance on games, but they are disabling the half CU of GPU yet. If Square would patch this, the game would run pretty better than boost mode.

On boost mode PS4 Pro is around 2,1 TFLOPS. A patched game PS4 Pro is a 4,2 TFLOPS machine.

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Originally Posted by Rei_Zero

Boost mode is not perfect, boost mode is using stock clocks for GPU (+100mhz) and CPU (+500mhz) that is the cause of boost performance on games, but they are disabling the half CU of GPU yet. If Square would patch this, the game would run pretty better than boost mode.

On boost mode PS4 Pro is around 2,1 TFLOPS. A patched game PS4 Pro is a 4,2 TFLOPS machine.

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Do you have a citation for that? I haven't seen any specific information about what Boost mode is doing, much of the anecdotal evidence suggests a bit more GPU oomph than simply a 100 MHz clock bump.

hi :)
Before I forget it, here's another topic recently started, sharing the name. Just in case :o

To all PS4 PRO (edited!) players, I have a few questions:

1) Can you switch on/off the boost mode while XIV is running? It would help comparing its efficiencity vs normal mode.
2) In heavy populated areas - IDYLLSHIRE! - does your framerate fall much? And vs Normal Mode?
3) In heavy populated areas - IDYLLSHIRE! - is your framerate any good? ie. is XIV running smoothly or is your framerate seemingly below 40-50fps.

This could be a solution but, without any official "framerate option" for PS4s, it could also be only a momentary improvement, since XIV might be more and more demanding later - SB i see you!

Please! Look at those topics!
[petition] PS4 framerate
1080p60 cheap pc build

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Originally Posted by Kathryn

I know this'll cause frictions but I wonder when they'll drop full console support or at least put them on seperate servers from PC as I feel it's not only affecting the games ability to progress performance wise but the community is seeming to be getting worse due to none typers its becoming wow with better graphics and I feel the consoles add a barrier between players and communication.

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SE makes more money off having multiple platforms running then just having one, also SE is also one of the few companies that actually use cross platform playing dating back to XI in 2004. SE would spend more money having segregated servers and judging from the prices on mog shop they want to make more money not less.

I have not yet tried boost mode as i did not think of it, lol
I too am curious how it works in say Idylshire for example

Maybe I just have crappy eyes but the game runs fine for me even in IDYLLSHIRE on regular PS4.

Yes but load times are a bit slow

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Originally Posted by Maero

Yes but load times are a bit slow

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With an SSD, my standard PS4 needs about as much time as the teleport animation to "black-screen" load Idyllshire after that teleport animation. With the original HD, it required almost 1min; often more than a DF popup window lasts.

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It also helps with loading NPCs and players. An improvement too, but still not many fps at Idyllshire. :(

so can this be toggled on and off? I received the patch on my Pro, but am just now realizing what it was for. any improvement, no matter how small, is an improvement. I just need to know if this is something I must toggle myself, or if its automatic.

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Originally Posted by Voltron_HD

so can this be toggled on and off? I received the patch on my Pro, but am just now realizing what it was for. any improvement, no matter how small, is an improvement. I just need to know if this is something I must toggle myself, or if its automatic.

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I believe you have to turn it on in the PS4 config screens, I don't have a Pro, so I can't tell you exactly what one. The Sony PS4 Pro knowledge base should contain that information, but I bet there are several guides online with the specifics.

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Originally Posted by Voltron_HD

so can this be toggled on and off? I received the patch on my Pro, but am just now realizing what it was for. any improvement, no matter how small, is an improvement. I just need to know if this is something I must toggle myself, or if its automatic.

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It is under Settings> System> Boost mode. I was really looking forward to this but honestly I dont think it did much, it needs an official patch from SE (which I read was in the works and being tested). I also play on PC with a GTX 1070 and boost mode still doesnt look to me to come close in smoothness and framerate of the PC version

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Originally Posted by yotsuffy

With an SSD, my standard PS4 needs about as much time as the teleport animation to "black-screen" load Idyllshire after that teleport animation. With the original HD, it required almost 1min; often more than a DF popup window lasts.

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It also helps with loading NPCs and players. An improvement too, but still not many fps at Idyllshire. :(

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Thank you for reporting back :)
I am also excited about the external hdd support of the system update, now i can pile up my backlog of games to eventually go back to, lol

The pro Boost Mode gives very little in the way of a performance boost. The game is optimised as it is on current hardware, so oddly enough the difference is barely noticeable. As a point of reference during the last fight in Dun Scaith, the framerate on a Pro ran at around 25-30fps, with the boost mode enabled, it stays quite close to 30fps with less of the dips. So, in a nutshell, no noticeable boost, but more of a stablised performance.

The good news is however, that the boost mode only utilises 30% of the Jaguar processor of the PS4 Pro. The official SE FFXIV Pro Patch as spoken of by Yoshi at Fan Fest is the proper one that will see the full use of the Pro used to improve the performance of the game. NOT the graphics, which is great news, considering the game pretty much runs at max settings anyway at the moment.

Hello all,

Since FFXIV is a PC and Console MMO, we have players on both systems. Some people are likely curious about how the game runs on each. I have the game on both Windows 10 on a PC with a AMD Radeon RX480 - not amazing by today's standards, but 60 FPS/1080, and a PS4 Pro connected to a 43" Sony 4K TV. I also have the game installed for my daughter's account on a standard PS4 in the living room.

So what is the gaming experience like? How do they compare now that Shadowbringers is out? Here are my observations.

First off, my older gaming PC with a Core i7, 16 gb RAM and the AMD 480 plays the game very smoothly, as would be expected. The frame rates are steady and it seems like the textures are just a tad better, which you would want since you're sitting closer to the monitor.

The PS4 Pro runs the game remarkably well. You are given the choice of higher resolution, or better performance. I always choose better performance and see solid frame rates, even in fates with many people and effects going off. As for inputs, I'm not a controller guy with MMOs, so I use a gaming lapboard with mechanical keys and a Razer Naga mouse with the 12-key pad on the side. It plays identically to PC as far as input is concerned. Since I sit back further from the TV, the possibly lower textures aren't that noticeable, even on a 4K display.

The living room standard PS4 definitely runs at a lower frame rate. It appears to be capped at no higher than 30 FPS, but I'm no expert there. But comparing it to PC and PS4 Pro, it certainly isn't quite on par, but it works and my daughter is fine with it.

What I ultimately take away from this is that if you are on a budget and FFXIV is the only MMORPG you play, and you are considering spending big on a gaming PC, give the PS4 Pro some serious consideration. You can find them for $350 USD on sale these days, which is half the price of a Nvidia RTX 2080 by itself.

I'm not against PC gaming, but my point is that a PS4 Pro is a wonderful FFXIV box for those who don't have a lot to spend, but want a good enough experience.