Undercutters

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

If people start undercutting me I will gladly follow suit and take it down to the cost price over time. To me profit is profit so I don't care if I make 1 gil profit or 1 mill.

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Do you factor in time value? I'm assuming with that mentality the answer is no...

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Originally Posted by Ayerinn

Do you factor in time value? I'm assuming with that mentality the answer is no...

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I notice a lot of player having problems with this concept and similars, like opportunity cost. In their eyes they aren't losing money but doing something else will grant a bigger profit.

Anyway, hardcore undercutting is because MB dumbs down the market by removing a lot of factors inherent to player shops, also, NQ/HQ system is not complex enough. Without changing this two factors the only way players can compete with each other is by undercutting.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

This is why.

I do it out of spite when someone undercuts me by 1 gil because I find that incredibly obnoxious. I know that's a failing on my part but I just can't help it. When I see someone undercut me by a single gil it incites incredible animosity within me and the only way to defuse it is to undercut in big chunks. When it gets too low (and if it hasn't sold yet), I yank it and let the 1gil undercutter have the sale at a much lower than expected price point then.

I know its incredibly silly on my part. I just find the whole undercut by 1 gil so frustratingly obnoxious I just can't help but retaliate in the only way I can. I also avoid buying things that have been undercut by 1gil and go to the next higher priced one. Paying that one gil more gives me such a sense of satisfaction that its well worth it.

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I know that feel, usually i just set the lowest price and thats it, i just look to put it to an retainer from another state, so the taxes make an difference. Then they come and lower for like 2-3 gil, or 100-200... or whatever. I show wait, if its just one, ok, but if like everyone follows, i drop as well and i dont go down with 100 g - I drop from 50k to 45 or worse if im fed up >_>

I know its stupid, but i just cant help... worse are ppl who undercut by millions >_>

Why even undercut in the first place? And by 1 gil? I'm sorry, but I don't have any sympathy for any kind of undercutters. I always match the lowest price for anything I'm selling (unless it's a smaller stack of rare crafting mats, and I usually list them for higher because people will pay more for less if they don't need 99 of something). People undercutting is what causes market crashes; literally all the drops I've gotten from 151+ in PotD would have sold if people didn't feel the need to undercut, be it by 1 gil or 1,000,000 gil.

Don't undercut and then complain when you get undercutted.

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Originally Posted by TogekissBough

I specifically make my mission to not buy items that have been dropped by 1 gil. If both items were the cheapest I'll buy the more ''expensive' one.' In reality one gil isn't much. If your going to discount make it meaningful in comparison to the product. I don't like undercutting but to be honest I do it. Ideally my product sells before it becomes a pissing storm, but its pretty frustrating seeing on the history your product sold for one less gil.

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Usually its not done to "be cheaper" its to put it at the top of the list when searching. (as some people have the same listing, with the same price, but selling the item in singles, on multiple alts, covering the whole page. So to make it on the page, u have to be at least 1 gil cheaper with your stack.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Why even undercut in the first place? And by 1 gil? I'm sorry, but I don't have any sympathy for any kind of undercutters.
Don't undercut and then complain when you get undercutted.

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It's the same reason our society says "Dont kill", yet has no problem killing anything they consider "less" than themselves, and not a big deal. (such as bugs)

It's the AMOUNT and SCOPE of the act that makes it unreasonable.

ALSO, when you match the price of the lowest poster, in cases of "rarer" items, and not many listing, they WILL undercut you in a few hours or less.
Match it again, and they will under cut you.

I even tried a few times to sell it 1 gil higher than theirs, just to see if they would undercut, and they did. (a few different people at that.)

So once again, the complaint is still viable (and I know darn well if the OP posted they sold theirs 1 gil higher, you'd still think the missing 2 gil was the reason this is happening.)