Is it possible to offend someone...with a macro?

Pff, it's possible to offend people with an emote. The sky is the limit.

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Originally Posted by Derio

Pff, it's possible to offend people with an emote. The sky is the limit.

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Some people even get offended by glamour.

The other player doesn't even have to do anything. Just wearing the gear they enjoy is, apparently, offensive to some people.

On the subject of macros, I keep mine to a simple "[Raise] <t>". I feel there is no need for anything more than that.

I also do use a sound effect to let the other healer know I am raising someone and who I am raising. It's kind of important when several people are dead, so we don't waste our Swiftcast trying to Raise the same person.

I'm surprised no one is offended by berserk macros :^)

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Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz

I'm surprised no one is offended by berserk macros :^)

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I actually have a counter macro for Berserk macros. *ahem*

/p I see your Berserk Pacification macro and acknowledge your suffering.
/p I do not plan to cleanse you.
/p I can make noises too, check it out. <se.2> <se.12>

PS: I actually stole this macro from someone and thought it hilarious. So I do not take credit for creating it.

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Originally Posted by Seryne

Someone got offended by my "Wake up sleepy dead!" raise macro so yes it's very much possible.



You did that to me in Void Ark the one time I ended up in there with you. I thought it was hilarious personally.

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<licks you> You are awesome \o/

Best one I saw was by a guy named Black Dynamite and was something along the lines of "Don't you know only hookers make money lying on their back?"

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Originally Posted by Lexia

People get offended by anything these days.

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Your statement offends me.












:)

I don't plan to change my macro since i never had any bad response to it, and if i do, i won't change it anyway cause i love my only macro i use in the game:

" And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
raise on <name>
Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' aliiiiiiiive. "


Everyone love the Bee Gees you know :3

When the healer is slacking and let's you die there is no room for silly macro, because it looks like trolling when the person who is responsible for your death is after that mocking you as bonus.

That is the main issue with raise macros. The healers keep using them not considering the situation in which they are using them.

i love this healer macro - saw it in wipe city: "show me on the doll where he touched you"

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Originally Posted by Kabelius

i love this healer macro - saw it in wipe city: "show me on the doll where he touched you"

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now that would offend me and alot.. that is not a macro to have in a game where you have minors involved....eh? people make macro because they find them funny but do they really think a bit further then the tip of their nose ? I doubt, seen some of the stuff that goes around out there

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

now that would offend me and alot.. that is not a macro to have in a game where you have minors involved....eh? people make macro because they find them funny but do they really think a bit further then the tip of their nose ? I doubt, seen some of the stuff that goes around out there

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Guess they should remove that joke out every show and movie Seth MacFarlane touches. Family Guy, American Dad, Ted...extremely popular among minors. And each make that type of joke a lot.

"Touched by an angel"
http://coolspotters.com/files/photos...el-gallery.png
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20090808010344

I tend to dislike "cute" macros that are trying to be funny.

A: They're mostly not funny.
B: Mid-fight you should probably focus on communicating clearly.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

now that would offend me and alot.. that is not a macro to have in a game where you have minors involved....eh? people make macro because they find them funny but do they really think a bit further then the tip of their nose ? I doubt, seen some of the stuff that goes around out there

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Why do you think people find dick pics and macros on the internet so hilarious? It appeals with the same type of humor; sophomoric humor. American Pie, American Dad, Sorority Boys, Grown Ups, etc.

Seriously, I don't find the OPs macro offending but I rather keep my mouth shut about what I think about it as it won't be pretty. But to each their own.

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Originally Posted by Archaell

When the healer is slacking and let's you die there is no room for silly macro, because it looks like trolling when the person who is responsible for your death is after that mocking you as bonus.
That is the main issue with raise macros. The healers keep using them not considering the situation in which they are using them.

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The healer is not responsible for idiots staying in AOEs or people not using their CDs. They are also not responsible for your supposed lag or saving your ass from whatever trash you do. Healers are not responsible for people not knowing their skills and not following game mechanics. Or in short: healers are not your personal servants..

Sorry to burst your bubble. Yes, we all derp and I am not saying it is never the healer's fault. After all, the challenge of keeping the party in shape in all situations is (at least for me) part of why I love being a healer.

As for the macros, unlike a 5 sec Pacification macro, raise macros are actually useful:
- making people aware they are being raised
- saving mp for the other healer/a summoner by avoiding double raises on the same person
- making the party aware that for a few seconds, they might to watch themselves

That's only the ones I can think of from the top of my head.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

now that would offend me and alot.. that is not a macro to have in a game where you have minors involved....eh? people make macro because they find them funny but do they really think a bit further then the tip of their nose ? I doubt, seen some of the stuff that goes around out there

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Why would I have to write my macro considering that? If parents see it fit to have their kids playing, it is their responsibility to "protect" them from the evil talk of naughty people. Letting a child play any MMO apart from maybe Hello Kitty Online will expose them to this kind of content. Don't want that, do the following:
- Enable the chat filter
- CLOSE the whole chat
- Play with them in a static group
- Set up their chat channels to what they can see and what not

Personally, my raise macro is safe for minors but not because I wrote it to be that way:

"<t> has encountered a fatal error. Rebooting...."

Using the term lame when someone dies isn't very flattering. I can see why some might be offended. Is that really necessary?

Mine is:

"We Need You Warrior of Light" <t>
"May Hydaelyn Guide You!"

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

now that would offend me and alot.. that is not a macro to have in a game where you have minors involved....eh? people make macro because they find them funny but do they really think a bit further then the tip of their nose ? I doubt, seen some of the stuff that goes around out there

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That's why my macro is part of the pop culture.

Everyone love the Bee Gees, told you ! :3

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Using the term lame when someone dies isn't very flattering. I can see why some might be offended. Is that really necessary?

Mine is:

"We Need You Warrior of Light" <t>
"May Hydaelyn Guide You!"

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Ya I changed the "lame" part. Just to be on the safe side so I don't get an upset person again. I wasn't really expecting "lame" to be an offensive term though lol. Just like "jerk". They feel soft xD

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Originally Posted by Chessala

The healer is not responsible for idiots staying in AOEs or people not using their CDs. They are also not responsible for your supposed lag or saving your ass from whatever trash you do. Healers are not responsible for people not knowing their skills and not following game mechanics. Or in short: healers are not your personal servants..

Sorry to burst your bubble. Yes, we all derp and I am not saying it is never the healer's fault. After all, the challenge of keeping the party in shape in all situations is (at least for me) part of why I love being a healer.

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Read my post again. I am talking about silly macros when it's the healer fault. Talking about healers who have some psychological issues with keeping people alive based on their mood is entirely different topic.

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Originally Posted by Chessala

As for the macros, unlike a 5 sec Pacification macro, raise macros are actually useful:
- making people aware they are being raised
- saving mp for the other healer/a summoner by avoiding double raises on the same person
- making the party aware that for a few seconds, they might to watch themselves

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That starts and ends with /p raising <t>. Anything else after it is not serving the points above.

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Originally Posted by Archaell

Read my post again. I am talking about silly macros when it's the healer fault. Talking about healers who have some psychological issues with keeping people alive based on their mood is entirely different topic.

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I think you should read my post again as well. I am not talking about psychological issues at all. All I meant to say is: you are liability to the group with the way your play? It's not the healers responsibility to pull you through.

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Originally Posted by Archaell

That starts and ends with /p raising <t>. Anything else after it is not serving the points above.

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I am not saying it has to be an elaborate macro and yes, for the purposes a simple raising would be sufficient. But hey, all to make the healers servants that can't have fun in the game, eh?

I am absolutely fine with witty and funny macros. I don't like many of the ones I see around but if I have a healer that actually is at faultfor letting the party die (yes, there are plenty of those), the last thing I am bothered with is their raise macro. I'll be too voting to kick them.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

Yes. Yes it is. Last week I was running Sohr Khai for expert and used my Benediction macro in it, which read "oh s***" in block letters.

10 minutes after leaving the dungeon a GM summons me to the Gaol.

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I can sort of see where most examples in this thread can get on people's nerves. Personally, my macros don't call out other players aside from the fact that they're being the target of my Ascend/Raise/Resurrection.

However, THIS particular example worries me.

I cannot wait for the day when df healers get so ornery as to make macros for cure lamenting about how nothing would get done without them. Cause you know, tanks and dps can't make the green numbers as much as they do the red numbers.

I never knew medica 2 hurt so much. :)

Anyway, yeah you probably can offend someone with a macro. No need to step on the dead when the mobs are doing it for you.

My raise marco is just simply "Silly, <t>, the floor isn't the boss ♥". Don't think it has offended anyone as of yet. As to the other person. Let's not try to say that the death of a party member is always the healer's fault. A lot of times it's just simply someone who failed to follow a mechanic that resulted in an instant death. Mega death (or whatever its name) for instance. A party member is at 100%, he fails to follow the mechanic. He dies..that's not my fault.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

People get offended when I go "Pinkamena Pie licks you" so yes, people get offended in this game by the smallest thing.

OR maybe cause I'm a lala *shrugs*

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I have a "/em bites <t>'s leg." macro that I use when people /pet me. Sometimes I get /slap as a response. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is it possible? Undoubtly, since people don't have the same humor and the written meaning is different from to vocal meaning, because of the lack of "intonation" (and facial expression).

Things that people find fun, some others can think it is rude. That's why smiley have been created : what you write and what people think you mean can be pretty different from the way you really mean it. "Lame" is that kind of words that can sound rude.

And your marco, at first degree, unfortunatly can sound like a criticism, a sarcasm.

I don't use raise macros since they all get on my nerves. Not even a case of "this offends me," I hate seeing the chat flooded with useless diatribe.

You can't even double-raise a player. If one has already hit a raise, the game simply stops the cast from happening for the others attempting it, so no MP loss. You just burn swift, which is so snappy, I probably would have even with silly macro text flooding the chat. Use another Cure 2 or Medica 2 for the swift and move on.

Plus, you can see everyone's cast bars over the party list, so if it isn't a swift-rez, you can see you're fellow healer or SMN using it.

People will get offended by a piece of cheese these days. Just shrug and move on.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

You can't even double-raise a player. If one has already hit a raise, the game simply stops the cast from happening for the others attempting it, so no MP loss.

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This is not even remotely true by the way.

I wish it was though.

Honestly, it seems these days it's becoming more and more difficult to avoid offending people.

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Originally Posted by Clansman2016

Honestly, it seems these days it's becoming more and more difficult to avoid offending people.

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i think that has nothing to do with these days. it's just someone else failed a mechanic and you die and the healer calls you an idiot because you died... that would offend people back in the 1970's the same way.

for example the OT missed the tank-swap, people die in the prison in titan ex, all the people running out of your damage-split mark... or yes, the healer himself messed up and you died...

In todays world you can offend someone by eating an ice cream bar so nothing really surprises me anymore.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

This is not even remotely true by the way.

I wish it was though.

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It's only an issue if the player being raised doesn't accept it. Once they do, they gain a status effect that prevents others from trying to raise them.

Which, again, having a poor joke macro runs the risk of slowing the rezzed player down, messing with your co-healer, wasting time and MP, and just making people mad in a situation where everyone was having fun.

The fact that people are so unapologetic about these things that can be so easily misconstrued is the real problem. It's not about people being too easily offended by you, it's about not being a jerk to your fellows.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

It's only an issue if the player being raised doesn't accept it. Once they do, they gain a status effect that prevents others from trying to raise them.

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Incorrect.

I have double raised people so many times in the last two years I think I would know.

My raid group actually has a thing where the white mage doesn't raise anyone unless the scholar and summoner both vocally say they can't to avoid them wasting their mana on it.

Maybe if you waited so long that the 'raise? yes/no' choice is on their screen then what you say would happen, but most healers with good reaction time have already blown their swiftcast and 2652 mana by that point.

I've even seen people who were alive with the "Would you like to raise?" debuff on them due to double raising shenanigans, always weird when that happens.

Let me put it this way. Would it get on your nerves if every once in a while someone who dies on your watch hits their macro:

<t> pls raise.... not keeping people up is lame. <se.1>

It's equally annoying to get called out by a raise macro when your death was not your fault, than it is for healers to get crapped on for not healing through avoidable damage. You could try a more humorous approach if you wish to not offend/demoralize people.

Even if a raise macro putting any blame at all on the dead was used on a dragoon who stood in every possible aoe, they could still get offended and blame it on the healer. As people always do. But this thread is not about the healers I know i just have too many angry haler stories.
(someone teach me how to make text smaller i only know real programming not this)

Raising <t> is all you need. Anything more than that and I cringe and wish to slap you across your face. Bare minimum macros are the best ones.

I quoted some posts for an example of this... but went ahead and removed them from this comment. Decided it would be better to not point fingers but just speak generally to make my point.


There is trend in the game, that has even carried it's way onto the forums. It's very common in MMOs, so this social discord dose not even really get noticed all the time. It being so common that it just blends into the background music.

But when a group goes down, everyone want's to know who to blame for it. Which is why a lot of players are quick to point at someone else, so as not to get accused of it themselves. ---kinda like farting in the car when you were a kid. Remember the old "Who ever smelt it dealt it" ?---

I was in a group the other night that was so refreshingly different. We did very well, and only had a couple of hiccups. I forget the name of that zone, but it was in that one that takes place in a cave in the desert. After you clear each room, the portal to get into the next area, is clicking on a small pool of quicksand.
When we got to the 2nd boss which was that giant worm, the Archer dps died 2 or 3 times during the fight. After the fight was over, the healer and I both typed up a quick apology to the Archer. She apologized for not getting close enough to him in time to target and heal him before he went down. And I apologized saying that I was not sure why or even when I lost the aggro on the boss. He then told me it was not my fault. How I kept the aggro and that boss will just target random group members during the fight. Then told the healer it was not her fault either, that he mains as a Tank and he was still getting used to playing as DPS. So remember where to stand and move to get out of the way during a boss fight was something he was still getting used to.

Every pickup group is unique. When the group keeps getting killed, typically it's because some party members are refusing to alter their own play-style to fit that group. Sometimes the strongest player, can be the weakest link in the chain.

hmmm the only thing i find annoying on macros is that blib <se.2> blib gong <se.5> gong sounds that people add in to them :P specially when it is a warrior .... :P

and they spam it every 30 seconds :P

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Originally Posted by Scarletashe

In todays world you can offend someone by eating an ice cream bar so nothing really surprises me anymore.

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In today's world, you can offend someone by asking them to look deeper into the context of their actions and stop trying to dodge consequence.

Oh wait, that's been around since forever.

I think the fact you're questioning if your macro can offend people is pretty self explanatory. With a little bit of common sense we always know if our words can really offend someone on a personal level and avoid using it, unless the "today's world" excuse happens and people decide to use it anyways. Regardless, we always know. There are so many different words in our vocabulary to be used, I'm pretty sure everyone can come up with a lot of different phrases with the same meaning without any double standard.

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Originally Posted by Masquerade

Tho they are probably not meant to offend, I do think they can bring down the groups morale....and considering the healer is suppose to keep group members from getting killed, a better macro might be something like "Sorry you died under my watch. I'll try not to let it happen again."

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I agree with the above, as funny as you might think it could be,
Just substitute your macro with something like above.
While the death may or may not be your fault, and its 'just a macro',
having to hear that if it occurs multiple times does not give a good feeling to you or your party.


most people fail to realize that their definition of 'funny' is at the uncomfortable expense of others,
If i were a DD and a healers raised with "Sorry you died under my watch. I'll try not to let it happen again." in a 24 man raid multiple times,
Id find that funny.
But i dont think the healer themselves would feel much happy with that scrolling mutiple times.