Fat Moogle Mount on Mogstation!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Celef

Sure, rewards we can't choose...i take those others games as exmaple but there, you can choose what your reward is, you can buy that awesone glam you've seen for months or that cool mount without having to pay more money that you actually do.
I did not even take my last sub reward because it was a gob helmet that i find crappy and ugly, some of us may like it, i don't and i might not be the only one so why can't we just choose ?

---

Shame, I like the mask and the minion that came with my reward. But at least we do get somewhat frequently something out of our subs.
WoW players had to sub for 10 years to get even a single thing, a statue, made for them.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Celef

Most of MMO are F2P nowadays so I guess players are used to that kind of attitude from gaming company that NEED CS to keep developping the game and SE shamelessly uses this habit to make even more money on us :/
As long as people will see this as normal, that won't stop and considering the large amond of F2P games nowadays the mentality will probably never go back to "i bought the game, I pay a sub, why should i pay more for things that are developped using my sub money ?"

---

Exactly. To be honest this mindset is the root of the state of p2w games today. These people are no better than whales from f2p games.
When I saw the data for the mount I though "something well done like this wouldn't be on the mogstation". I even tried to make quests faster so I could achieve 60 and decided to level up my crafters a bit in case I needed them to get the mount. Now here I am, A sea of salt.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Arrius

Shame, I like the mask and the minion that came with my reward. But at least we do get somewhat frequently something out of our subs.
WoW players had to sub for 10 years to get even a single thing, a statue, made for them.

---

And did they have, during those 10 years, to spend more money to get exclusive content via a CS like mount, Fabtasian, housing items ? (no sarcasm, real question cause i did not play WoW)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Celef

If we don't want items to be put in mog station we need to stop buying from it, they will either stop putting "exclusive" things (a loss i know but still better than that) or put it IG via grind to make money because as long as you grind, you pay a sub but, in the end, you get a chance to get your item

Of course we don't HAVE to buy it but if we like it, we have no choice but to buy it. You can eat for 3 or 4 days with 21€, why only the rich ones could get that moubnt when we all, poor included, pay the same sub ?

---

Replying to bolded parts. Why should the rich have an option to buy exclusive cosmetic items? You said it yourself: because there's a chance that these items would not have been made at all if they weren't going to charge money for them. They probably have a separate budget to work with. If the items are not funded with our sub $£€ (my guess is that mog station items are funded by mog station profits) then obviously we are not entitled to the items without paying more than our sub cost.

It would be much worse to never have these cool mounts as an option at all. Same with the promotional and region exclusive items. I would love for everything to be available to everyone but if that's not going to happen I'll take the second best option and watch other people enjoy their items. Wanting to deny everyone a chance at some cosmetic items just because you can't have it smells like jealousy. You can still play the game and ride other mounts.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Celef

I know but we should not have to BUY these in a sub game. Let them add these in CS, if we, all together, stop buyint these, they might stop adding them.
I'm not against CS, i'm just against CS in a 13€ monthly game. At least make it F2P and do like some others MMO where, when you have a sub, you get CS money every month for supporting the game (like TSW - EQ2 - Rift etc).

---

To me the sub doesn't mean that I get all the creative works ever made for that game without additional fees. It means I get the game, have an equal footing to play it than everyone else and there are no pay to win mechanics. WoW finally implemented pay to win in it's latest expansion but it in all fairness it also went free to play (technically).

I don't think you'll have much success talking people into not buying these items, because most people realize it's just cosmetic luxury stuff that they're funding by paying that extra cost. The retainer service is much much more concerning IMO. Now that's almost pay to win. Never seen a game company so shamelessly abusing the most basic commodity of an RPG, the inventory space.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Melorie

I though a P2P community would have way more critical sense about these subjects and instead I'm just meeting the same old whales from f2p korean mmos.

---

I've never played a Korean F2P MMO but I'll gladly be compared to a whale. They are amazing, intelligent creatures.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Celef

And did they have, during those 10 years, to spend more money to get exclusive content via a CS like mount, Fabtasian, housing items ? (no sarcasm, real question cause i did not play WoW)

---

10$ Minions
25$ Mounts
15$ Special Headgear Pieces
35$ Packs
The usual Name/Character/Race/Faction/Server change services.
Level boosts
AND a subscription item, which you can use ingame to redeem 30 days of playtime, that you can sell off for gold in the Auction house

Added link - https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/game/wow

Bought it then converted the price later which is stupid of me, but seriously how greedy of you SE! $30/Eu21 is not acceptable for a subscription game. how greedy.

This was me thinking it would be full of re-colours but I guess I was wrong. Now they are creating content for mogstation only? Man this game must be going down hill...lol

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Remus

This was me thinking it would be full of re-colours but I guess I was wrong. Now they are creating content for mogstation only? Man this game must be going down hill...lol

---

There's no indication of that. It seems to be doing fairly well for itself - though it's no secret that money earned from FFXIV is pumped into other projects such as FFXV.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bixillarla

I love the mount :)

There are 5 mounts on the mog station:

Fat Moogle
Bennu
White Devil
Red Baron
Slepinir

---

Oh yea forgot but well its just reskin of magitek so xd never cared about those two

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

$30? Just make the game F2P already.

---

Which will never happen.
FFXI is still P2P after 14 years and I highly doubt FFXIV will ever go F2P.

I miss a lot other items like:

- Scions Healer's Gear and hairstyle
- Scions Rogue's Gear and hairstyle
- Dress-up Y'shtola
- Wind-up Krile
- Red Fenrir

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Melorie

When I saw the data for the mount I though "something well done like this wouldn't be on the mogstation". I even tried to make quests faster so I could achieve 60 and decided to level up my crafters a bit in case I needed them to get the mount. Now here I am, A sea of salt.

---

Not defending SE here, but we all knew it wouldn't be a reward from the beast tribes, since every tribe has 1 mount at max rank and the moggles got already that ugly dandelion mount. We also knew there weren't any beast tribes being added since it's clearly stated to be a hotfix patch, and even if they added another tribe, there would have been any explanation or reason for that mount. Sorry to say, but that's your own fault for speeding/rushing through content and then complain at the end.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LunaFaye

Not defending SE here, but we all knew it wouldn't be a reward from the beast tribes, since every tribe has 1 mount at max rank and the moggles got already that ugly dandelion mount. We also knew there weren't any beast tribes being added since it's clearly stated to be a hotfix patch, and even if they added another tribe, there would have been any explanation or reason for that mount. Sorry to say, but that's your own fault for speeding/rushing through content and then complain at the end.

---

I didn't though that it would be a reward from beast tribes either. But yes, I though that it would be a reward for something. And I'm not crying that I decided to "rush" any kind of content (I did read all my quests, like I'm used to, and do not mind leveling my crafters), I just wanted to point out this to show that I was excited with the mount and god forbid feeling excited with anything in this game. My disappointment has nothing to do with rushing content and that's not my point.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reinha

Because there's a chance that these items would not have been made at all if they weren't going to charge money for them. They probably have a separate budget to work with. If the items are not funded with our sub $£€ (my guess is that mog station items are funded by mog station profits) then obviously we are not entitled to the items without paying more than our sub cost.

---

There's no way to confirm that though.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reinha

I've never played a Korean F2P MMO but I'll gladly be compared to a whale. They are amazing, intelligent creatures.

---

You do realize that's it's just a term and it has nothing to do with the animal, I hope.

Guilty as I feel about it, the mount is amazing in all honesty. It's a giant fat moogle that makes their little floaty sounds constantly while you sit under it; it also plays Moggle Mog's theme!

Ngl I wanna feel angry at the price, and I am - but right now the mount is just too worth it for me to care >>

I knew this thing would be on the CS when I heard about it along with the Red Fenrir (saw the picture someone datamined up that is), so it was no surprise it would have shown up on there through the notice on the lodestone.

Also surprised no one has mentioned that it plays the Great King Moggle Mog theme from Thornmarch when you ride it (edit: nevermind, someone did!). It could have easily been a reward from there, but meh. I'll still get it, just for the lulz, it's a two seater, and has a moogle dance action attached to it as a mount action. xD

Two of the most popular MMOs are subscription based and have cash shops. Before that, there was Everquest and Everquest 2, before they went F2P. It's been a viable model for quite a few years now, so saying P2P shouldn't have a cash shop is kinda moot at this point. If you don't like it don't use it, just don't expect everyone to share that view point.

IMO they should lower the amount of stuff that is being put into game and put more stuff into cash shop instead.
If people would buy it, why not?

They could sell summon skins, relic skins, maybe optional paths in dungeons, you could buy other ways and choose which one you will run so you won't get bored so fast in expert, also additional housing plots, songs.

Many people seem to be also interested in PvP mounts, most probably A4s mount and EM primals mounts too?

70e for medium housing plot sounds reasonable I think.

So i caved and bought it, its been around 1.5 hours now and its still not been delivered to my mail box... is this happening with others too? do you have your mounts yet or are you still waiting on them?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DarkPikachu

So i caved and bought it, its been around 1.5 hours now and its still not been delivered to my mail box... is this happening with others too? do you have your mounts yet or are you still waiting on them?

---

Have you relogged? It usually works that way.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Chiramu

So apparently everyone complaining is on welfare for you? Money means nothing for cash shop mounts...

---

I didn't say anything about people complaining. Just that I don't feel guilty dropping money on a cosmetic item. Not sure where you got that from...

Yep logged out twice, hmm. and my mail box is not full either..

I sent a ticket because mine too a while to arrive, I didn't get a reply but the mail came shortly after.

http://i.imgur.com/P6O0v8Y.jpg

THIS is the reason we never got an adorable white and pink moogle primal pony that dropped from King Mog XII?

Man, I'm pissed.

SE missed the chance to add clearing all Moogle sidequests and Moogle beastmen quests as an extra requirement to the cash mount ^^

That's a beautiful looking mount and I'm disappointed that I'll never have one. The cash shop pricing is getting out of hand. I love the cosmetic stuff and things pouring into the cash shop is one of the reasons I finally left WoW for good. I didn't mind so much paying for items if you weren't around for an event, but the straight to cash shop stuff doesn't sit well with me.

Cash shop on a sub MMO = shame

Bought. Love it! I'm a happy whale.

Good thing this is locked behind the wallet boss instead of something pesky like fun content!

30 bucks?!
No thanks dude.

What. The. *goes to mog station*
That price, though...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Melorie

I though a P2P community would have way more critical sense about these subjects and instead I'm just meeting the same old whales from f2p korean mmos.

---

In past threads, it's quite shocking to me how many people are 100% OK with items being exclusive to the cash shop. The thread does actually seem to have far more unhappy voices than usual, so that's nice to see.

IMO, everything should be obtainable IN-GAME at some point before going to the cash shop. I know, crazy idea, but since we do pay a monthly sub I figured that would be fair.

As far as the cash shop is concerned, fantasias, world transfers, name changes and basic account services are all dandy. Since there is no way the cash shop is going away, I would also be OK with them selling out-of-season seasonal gear (in case you missed the original run).

This direct-to-cash shop on a P2P game is wrong. :/

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Brannigan

Good thing this is locked behind the wallet boss instead of something pesky like fun content!

---

Phew, for a second there I was afraid I'd actually have to queue into an instance again before 3.4 comes out.

Thanks for the save, SE!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pomelo

I sent a ticket because mine too a while to arrive, I didn't get a reply but the mail came shortly after.

http://i.imgur.com/P6O0v8Y.jpg

---

Bought mine hours ago. Just logged on and no mail. I may have to submit a ticket myself.

I might wait a while and see if it goes on sale like the Slepnir mount did. As much as I want it, I don't NEED it right this very moment. :P Also it seems there might be some delivery issues, so going to wait for those to clear up a bit.

I love how nowadays you are not allowed to have an opinion without being called a "korean F2P mmo fat wallet whale" or some other derogatory term clearly meant to insinuate that you are what´s wrong with modern MMOverse.

It is very cute , had to get one :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SagaSoluna

I love how nowadays you are not allowed to have an opinion without being called a "korean F2P mmo fat wallet whale" or some other derogatory term clearly meant to insinuate that you are what´s wrong with modern MMOverse.

---

They can call me whatever they want. At the end of the day, I still have a cute 2-seater lol

I personally think the thing is ugly. Still got it anyway because I have a mount obsession, but imo; possibly one of the ugliest mounts in the game right now.
Guess ugly is the new cute?? To each their own.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SagaSoluna

I love how nowadays you are not allowed to have an opinion without being called a "korean F2P mmo fat wallet whale" or some other derogatory term

---

Well first of all your are right, no one should call name on anyone, thats rude, even if we disagree with you !

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SagaSoluna

clearly meant to insinuate that you are what´s wrong with modern MMOverse.

---

Certainly not THE thing that is wrong with modern MMOverse but at least a part of the problem. If game company developp items for a CS but no one buy from it, they will probably stop wasting time and money on this cause no benefits.
On the other hand, if you keep buying, they keep selling and keep thinking they should allow dev time to that instead of thing everyone can enjoy.
How much time did they use to make that mount that benefits only a few of us and how did it impact the creation of other stuffs that we could all enjoy for the price of our sub ?
And, more important, why not add it to the game as well ?
I mean, if someone does not want to wast time on, lets say King Moogle trials, he / she can buy the mount in Cs.
If someone does not want to buy it in CS, they should be abble to get it via the Trial.

Oh no they're putting more cosmetic optional items that no one needs in the shop, stop the presses!

I might get it someday, looks funny.