I'd love to get hyped for the patch, but considering how late part 2 of the live letter is, the patch is due to come out much later than I hoped it would be coming (was really hoping for May 24-ish). 3.2, unfortunately didn't have a whole lot of content I was interested in doing T_T
Patch 3.3 is called Revenge of the Horde...
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05-01-2016, 11:58 PMReiryuu
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05-02-2016, 02:47 AMKaurieI would expect June 7th for the next patch, based on previous iterations time frames (roughly 3.5 months per cycle).Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiryuu
Patch 2.1 2013/12/16
Patch 2.2 2014/03/27 14.5 weeks
Patch 2.3 2014/07/08 15.5 weeks
Patch 2.4 2014/10/28 16 weeks
Patch 2.5 2015/01/20 13 weeks
Patch 2.55 2015/03/31 10 weeks
Patch 3.0 2015/06/19 13 weeks
Patch 3.1 2015/11/10 20 weeks
Patch 3.2 2016/02/23 15 weeks
Average: 14.6 weeks
Average excluding patch 2.55 and 3.1 as outliers: 14.5 weeks
May 24 = 13 weeks
June 7 = 15 weeks
As for 3.2, it had some fun content - I liked Midas for sure. The two new dungeons were vastly superior in terms of fun from the last 10 dungeons, but were disappointingly easy. Outside of that, it was a pretty meh patch for me too. I think the reason it was so well received, is that it followed 3.0 and 3.1 which were widely disliked for overall endgame activities (endgame doesn't mean raiding here, but anything you do post-leveling). -
05-02-2016, 03:24 AMWorldofwarcraftYou real eyes, that FOR THE HORDE, or we will dispose of you D:<Quote:
Originally Posted by Belhi
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05-02-2016, 03:56 AMKhalitharThat's... actually a very accurate description.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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05-02-2016, 04:10 AMMilesSaintboroguh
I hope Midgardsormr takes action as well.
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05-02-2016, 04:57 AMFrederick22
So.. who is going to become Darth Vader ?
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05-02-2016, 05:22 AMNalienAlphinaud. He spend all of 3.2 complaining aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Frederick22
sandsacrifices, now he'll go to the dark side to save Estinien. -
05-02-2016, 05:30 AMFrederick22I was expecting that is Estenien.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
The WoL ( dragoon ) vs Estenien ( dark dragoon ) XD
But that could be too ! -
05-02-2016, 06:42 AMRayneLittlewinkle
That was awesome thanks for posting! I play both wow and FFxiv ;)
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05-02-2016, 07:18 PMChessala
Honestly, haven't we copied enough content and systems from WoW already? Not even the logo for patch has any FFXIV appeal. I honestly thought I saw the wrong logo there.
Really Yoshi, try to stop copying WoW and finally givethis game the individuality it deserves.... -
05-02-2016, 08:51 PMPreypacerAnd don't forget flying. Because apparently, every mount in FFXIV is destined to become a flying mount as well. Yoshi-P has given up on taking XIV's world or lore at all seriously, or trying preserve it as a unique kind of experience in the genre. He's almost literally using WoW as his blueprint at this point. It shows more and more with every new update they release, or discuss.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh
"WoW did this, so XIV must do this... WoW does that, so XIV must do that".
You know, Yoshi-P, FFXI was heavily inspired by EQ1. The difference is, once they had the core game established, SE took FFXI off in its own direction, and it became a very unique, self-contained experience in the genre, which earned a strong and very loyal following - at least until they lost their minds, jumped the shark, and decided undermining ~8 years of world, story and game building with Abyssea was the right course of action, at which point it began bleeding players who no longer recognized the MMO they'd loved for so long.
Blizzard took the basic ideas of established MMOs, then put their own twist on them to create a new experience no one had experienced before. Yes it was more streamlined and accessible - it was very much a Blizzard game. Point is, it stood on its own within the genre (not even discussing numbers here, just in terms of its design philosophies, etc)
With XIV:ARR, you got the "basing the foundation off of established, successful MMOs" phase right. Problem is, you forgot the part where you stop "emulating" and start making the game its own unique, self-contained experience. You're still stuck in the "emulate other successful MMOs" bit, and are doing so in a variety of ways, on various levels.
While many other MMO devs have finally woken up to the fact that you don't have to copy WoW to be good, or even successful (as long as expectations of success are tempered with a grip on reality), and are starting to try new things, and push the genre in different directions....Yoshi-P is clinging desperately to the idea that trying to emulate WoW is the best way to go. FFXIV:ARR was born out of many of WoW's design ideas/concepts, but Yoshi-P never cut the umbilical cord.
Saying this may not rest well with certain people, but it's my honest opinion. I've been thinking for a while now that XIV might need to get someone new in the Director's seat. Someone with more vision, more imagination, and less insistence on "playing it safe" for fear of "stressing people out". He's a damn hard worker, and has poured a lot into this game, I take none of that away from him. I just think we may have seen the limit of what he is able to bring to FFXIV creatively. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am. -
05-02-2016, 09:15 PMBelhiThe Japanese name for the Patch is The Final Howl. I suspect this was both title and a dig from the Translation team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chessala
Using 'Horde' in the title hardly is copying from WoW. WoW doesn't have exclusive rights to the term and Nidhogg's brood has been referred to as the Dravanian Horde since ARR from the moment you first stepped into Coerthas. -
05-03-2016, 11:55 AMLone-wolfe-02#triggeredQuote:
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05-03-2016, 04:22 PMDumbledoremd
[QUOTE=Kaurie;3682452]We don't really know for sure that WoW is bleeding more % of their subs than FFXIV is :\
They have lost 5 mill subscribers and are at an all time low -
05-03-2016, 08:33 PMChessalaWell, for many people a title like this will make them think of WoW (mind, I NEVER played WoW and never will). At least the Japanese title sounds good. OIur translation team should start doing a proper job :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Belhi
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05-04-2016, 12:08 AMBelhiOh don't be hard on Koji. He does a pretty good job in general and translations are often not simple plus he has a huge amount of work on his plate, not only translating the game but also translating a 300 page lore book they are planning to release later this year. Plus he rights a lot of the lyrics for the songs in game. (He is also to blame for all the cheesy FATE titles :P)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chessala
In this particular case I will agree that The Final Howl would have made a better title but that's personal preference and honestly the title 'Revenge of the Horde' is perfectly valid and accurate considering. It might be that they felt The Final Howl might have sounded too cheesy.
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05-04-2016, 12:19 AMKaurieThey have lost well more than 5 million. They unfortunately stopped reporting numbers, and the last report was just over 5 million. I am sure since then plenty of people have both quit and resubbed (personally, I've resubbed and know quite a few others who have). It's hard to estimate what they are at now exactly. That said, they have sold (as of 2014) over 100 million accounts. That means they've lost 95+ million subscribers at one point or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledoremd
FFXIV, conversely, has sold just over 5 million accounts as of last report. The most recent unofficial census, using achievements etc to estimate, puts it at ~650,000 characters. Note that this is characters and not players, which means that the value is likely less as some people have alts on a single account subscription.
All of that said, over say the last 6 months, we don't know how many subs either game has increased or decreased, as neither company is giving official sub numbers.