Three Question Survey

1. Yes.

2. Almost one year

3. Why does one have to leave one MMO in order to play another? Well, yes, I unsubscribed from WoW this summer (after playing FFXIV for six months), but I also resubscribed to SWTOR recently, and play other MMOs and, more importantly, other games outside the MMO genre. When the next WoW expansion comes out, I'll resubscribe. The only folks I've known who have to be dedicated to a single MMORPG are high-end raiders.

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Originally Posted by Jpec07

I may build a survey site in the future that automatically compiles the data from these to build charts from, and is independent of the forums, but even then, there would be bias.

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I had a thought a while back ago but dropped it. If you make a survey monkey or something, you can hang out in PF for that, you'll also need some people on different servers advertising it as well to get a general consensus.

1. Sastified with some things and unsastified with many aswell

2. 4 months

3. Runescape, silkroad online, scions of fate, cabal, aion, archeage
(Reached either endgame or played for at least a year in all of these games)
And as for subbing just to one mmo at a time. Some of us don't have a big wallet while we study. Ff14 furthermore costs the double of the usual subscription model. Its just that I've played mmos for arround 12 years and I'm seeing this game make some mistakes which killed some mmos and I've just been here for arround 4 months.

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Originally Posted by DarkB

Because the people who post on the forum arent actually equally players and customers? i really dont understand this lol. How is the forum community different from the player base when to login and post in here you must have a square enix valid and active account?

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Ever take an Internet Poll before?

The results are skewed because the respondents are not chosen from a random sampling of the base population.

From hit #3 using the search term "internet poll self sampling": "A self-selected sample that is not randomly selected from a population has no specification of sampling error" -- http://cstl-cla.semo.edu/rdrenka/Renka_papers/polls.htm

Also, the questions in the poll can provide bias toward certain answers.

Are you currently satisfied with FFXIV?: Only in some areas, but very disappointed in non instanced housing, 0 player creativity and no way to build anything , soooo basic and boring, limited and poorly designed..should have copied Rift 100%.

Numerous other issues but too many to list, they are not game breaking in any way as stand alones, but add them up, and they have become outright annoying after this long O.o

How long have you been playing FFXIV?:
Since the very first failed launch :p

Did you leave any other MMO in order to play FFXIV, and if so, which?: Nope I never quit one game for another, continue with all previous subs no matter, I like to jump into all games at one point, I don't unsub unless I feel developers are truly trying to screw players, or if I lose all trust in them to make any decision (happened once for a long stretch in wow)

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Originally Posted by DarkB

besides saying "the forum is not representative of the WHOLE player base" is quite reduntant, you will never be able to have a 100% representative of the whole playerbase ever on a forum or in game. That being said the post from Kosmos992k seemed the usual attempt to discriminate whoever express any opinion against the current game status.

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Hmmmmmm. So, you're implying that the only Truly Representative Response on this forum is one of gloom, disaster and despair, and that anyone who dares to say "things aren't that bad" is discriminating against you?

You also appear to have a personal conflict with this Kosmos992k. What's with that?

Are you a Black Knight, deliberately sabotaging our comfortable view of the game in order to, um, force us all to go play something else?

See how stupid arguments get when you inject spurious levels of animosity into the argument? Cut it out.

1. Sort of maybe. The pros and cons would be a discussion on its own.
2. 2.0 beta, though technically the start of 2015 since I stopped shortly after release.
3. No (my reasons for stopping any given MMO are always related to the game itself, not because of the existence of other games).

1. In the middle, concerned about its future.
2. Almost 2 years.
3. GW2. It was like a M&M without the chocolate inside.

1) No. I find myself logging in, doing dailies, and logging off.
2) Been playing since the UK release of FFXIV 1.0, warts and all.
3) Yes, several. Guild Wars 2. Champions Online. A brief fling with the Elder Scrolls Online. Rift.

I stay because despite its flaws, this game has potential. If the devs ever decide to release that potential, this game will be amazing. They need to break out of their comfort zones first though.

1. Yes
2. Year and three months
3. Not really, if you need to count one, count Ragnarok Online.

1. No.
2. 1.x Not 1.0 but soon after.
3. None, left them for other reasons.

1. Nope.
2. 2 years, tried the beta for a day if that counts.
3. Nope.

As others have mentioned, this poll basically just summarizes how everyone specifically on the forum feels about the game (at least in question 1). I think that it would be interesting, however, to see the correlation between how long people have been playing the game and if they're currently satisfied with it or not, if there's one at all. From what I've observed generally, 1.0 players either are in so deep that they really will just take whatever SE throws at them or they've grown tired of giving them second chances. 2.0 players are similar, though I think more forgiving and a bit less experienced. 3.0 players are in 2 extreme camps, either they're loving the game or they're hating it (potentially holding out to see if anything changes).

That's just what I've noticed, though, not necessarily a good reflection of those sets of people so take it with a grain of salt.

Are you currently satisfied with FFXIV?
With the game yes. With the English/na community no.

How long have you been playing FFXIV?
Since 1.0 launch having bought the CE edition played 6 mnths over the course of that launch
bought 2.0 ps3 CE played for 3 mnths but lost job, ex boyfriend prevented me from playing after i staryted to play again dumped him been playing 2 years since Needed new psn ID due to ex cyber stalking.

3. Did you leave any other MMO in order to play FFXIV, and if so, which?
yes DCUO(2.0) FFxi (1.0)

1. no
2. since 1.0 beta
3. ffXI

1. Am I satisfied with the game? Yes. The community on the other hand...
2. I have played since 2.0 beta.
3. No I didn't leave another mmo to play this one, but I was looking for a new one.

1. yes, at the moment, but SE have to do something
2. Since Beta of ARR
3. Tera Online and PSO2

1) Yes. The direction of the game and the content updates seem good.
2) 10 months (I think).
3) I left WoW around the same time as I started this game, but it was because WoW was crap.

1)Nope
2)Since March 2014.
3) PSO 2 if it counts

1. Mostly yes, only dislike how their putting in the grind. Im not agest grind I just think there should be a better way to add this kind of grind. Thats really the only problem I have currently and it pretty minor to me in all, other wise im happy with the game and plan to keep playing and dont plan to stop playing anytime soon.
2. Since 2.0 beta
3. Not really as i still play GW2. Not nearly as much but i still get on time to time.

1. YES!
2. 2.0 beta phase 2
3. i have been bounceing from WoW and a few other mmos found a home in Eorzea!

1. Pretty much, yes
2. Since Beta
3. Nope. This is my first MMO.

1. nope
2. almost a year
3. nope

1. Not really. I go on mostly to chat with FC members and do static things.
2. Almost 2 years
3. I was playing World of Tanks before FFXIV

1. Some things yes and others no. Overall I'm enjoying myself though but understand and don't necessarily disagree with a lot of the criticisms.
2. Since beta
3. Maybe? I was in an MMO bouncing phase for about a year before trying to find a community I enjoyed.

1. Somewhat concerned.
2. Technically, since 1.0. Didn't play for long. Been playing ARR since Beta 3.
3. Wasn't playing any MMOs at the time of ARR's launch.

1.No
2.Since August 2014
3.No

Personal opinions incoming:

1) No. I don't like the current trend that the devs have been taking the game to since some time ago (for whatever reason, including SE as a company as one of the "possible" reasons). I waited, I didn't like the stuff that kept coming, and I left. That doesn't mean that I don't care about the game, as that's why I still post my opinions; I've spent 2+ years here, for better or worse, and I loved it before the lazyness/"notenoughmanpowerbecauseSEdoesn'treinvestenoughmoneyinthegamethatismakingit", the lies, the boring and frustrating (NOT hard, said by someone that loved Coil and even Pharos -best fun I had when doing any dungeon- pre-nerfs) content, the "we can't do that"/"limitations" excuses, and their cash shop on top of a sub. I would like the game once again? That's on SE's hands, if they are able to make me feel once again that what they give me is worthy of my sub. Would I support them after another 1.0 fiasco if it happened again (I don't mean that it will happen)? Hell no, at the moment no, and much less once I stop caring about the future of the game (that's not far, to be honest), as obvious as it sounds. Does what I've explained have other consequences? Yes, at the moment I'm not inclined to buy other SE products, at all, as I don't trust them. Cause and consequence.

2) Since ARR's beta. The game had a soul back then, even with it's flaws, and it was fun.

3) I left GW2 for this game, as I was tired of their stance in regards to fully fledged and permanent content (AKA expansions, like in the original GW) versus their "everything to the cash shop, as we make enough money that way" revenue method (said by them back in the day), and I saw that Square-Enix seemed to start caring about their game and it's players (consequence of what happened, I guess) instead of seeing them as walking wallets that would take any crap thrown at them. But I would have left it anyway as, like I'm saying, I was tired of that and, even if I had some fun in WvWvW, I was annoyed by the rest of the game and it's direction. FFXIV just gave me something else (better back then) to play. There was more MMOs before, too, but that wasn't the question so I won't make this any longer.

Finally, five images worth remembering:

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Yes.
Almost two years.
No.

1. Yes but I hope for more interesting contents to keep some of my friends.
2. can't remember well but I think around first month of 1.0 launched.
3. WoW and some F2P mmo

1) Are you currently satisfied with FFXIV?
no, i feel they have not try to bring new thing to the game for long, the model of the game is outdated and need a real change.
2) How long have you been playing FFXIV?
since the start of the V1
3) Did you leave any other MMO in order to play FFXIV, and if so, which?
WoW hehe

1. No
2. Since Beta/Launch
3. Not really

1. Short Answer: Moderately. Really if I could get all my friends to migrate to a better game I would, but some of them won't budge.

2. Since ARR Beta, but took a hiatus between 2.1 and 2.2 because of work.

3. I had played MMO's in the past, but I generally don't skip between them. So, no I suppose i didn't.

1. Yes
2. Since ARR launch
3. No

1) No
2) Since 2.0
3) WoW and SWTOR but I still play f2p on occasion.

1. No
2. 2011
3. FFXI

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Originally Posted by Yshnal

Finally, five images worth remembering:

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Lol, I think I missed that "Running an MMORPG is like running a country"

And when the producers complain they can't make money: subsidize (force us to pay for), cartelize (collude to hold profits high), monopolize (buy up all the mats and put back on mb for 100x previous price)

Working as intended I think xD

(OK no more from me on this thread)

Are you currently satisfied with FFXIV?
No
How long have you been playing FFXIV?
1.0
Did you leave any other MMO in order to play FFXIV, and if so, which?
FFXI

Are you currently satisfied with FFXIV?
No.
2.How long have you been playing FFXIV?
Since the 2.0 beta
3.Did you leave any other MMO in order to play FFXIV, and if so, which?
Lord of the Rings Online

1. Decent. There's always room for improvement.
2. I started right around "through them maelstrom" patch
3. Ragnorak 2 (Had terrible timesink endgame)

1. No, just as many of the other members of my static, I have unsubbed and have ~2 weeks left.
2. Consistently since May 2014.
3. None, FFXIV was my first 'real' mmo after dabbling in some f2ps.