Atmas.

Am I the only one who liked the books?
Not the FATE part.. but even then it wasn't RNG it was "wait then do this FATE" so it wasn't too bad.

My least favorite part will always and forever be gathering all that damned Alexandrite.

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Originally Posted by Umo

Posting about something we haven't even played yet... I guess you just wanted your babble to be first post or something.

PS. :/

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We're talking about it because we CAN'T play it yet. I'm assuming everyone in this thread is refreshing the main page while waiting for an "early completion time" message, while babbling about the thing they are waiting for.

We aren't solving problems with discussion, we're killing time.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Am I the only one who liked the books?
Not the FATE part.. but even then it wasn't RNG it was "wait then do this FATE" so it wasn't too bad.

My least favorite part will always and forever be gathering all that damned Alexandrite.

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FATE books were pretty bad on release. The amount of time people spent farming Brayflox Longstop to get the required Tomestones to buy a single book, then the fact that you had to:


Kill 10x of each enemy (Waiting on respawns 3 times)
Defeat 3 leves (Sometimes having to do extra to get the one you needed to spawn)
Doing 3 FATE's (Sometimes waiting over 5 hours for a pop)
Doing 3 dungouns (Was a lot worst on DPS que-wise back then, can do it unsynched now)

This made it a huge chore and a huge grind. The sheer number of them saw it being one of the longest steps for slowly updating stats. Tag this on that it came right after Atma - a step that required heavy grinding of FATE's for no reward (stats don't raise and I don't consider a cosmetic ilevel upgrade to be a reward.) ... yea, I can see how they hate it.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

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Yeah, I remember... I'm pretty sure the tome cost had been nerfed by the time I got to it but the requirements were still there.
It was MUCH better than the Atma FATE drop part, like a breath of fresh air...
"Sure this'll take a fuckton of time but at least it's doing something" instead of "Man I just did four hours of FATEs and....still don't have that Atma"

So I guess what I'm saying is I'd take like five steps of the books over randomly waiting for something to drop from a FATE.

There's data mined info on fates for low % drop rates on atma, lv50 dungeons and HW leveling dungeons and i think Alex normal mode. So pretty much all we hated.

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

You just made a topic complaining about content that no one has even been able to play yet.. you serious?

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Is that trully new content ? Cause last time I checked the fates were already in the game.

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What exactly are people hoping for?

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I don t know ? Maybe something like relic specific content instead of having to farm on something which has been in the game since 3.0 ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...mining/cy0v7gf

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Originally Posted by Rose-Wild

There's data mined info on fates for low % drop rates on atma, lv50 dungeons and HW leveling dungeons and i think Alex normal mode. So pretty much all we hated.

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Jeah it really feels like "let´s forcefully revive all this dead content"

plus, some relic related Recieps showed up which i guess will be for full-geared specialists, or in other words "let´s shove some gils again to the 0.5% endgame crafters"

Some people that dug around says its at least the atma part is skippable with zeta so thank god its that part at least...

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Originally Posted by Hanayumi

Some people that dug around says its at least the atma part is skippable with zeta so thank god its that part at least...

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They're also saying that it takes 16 of the ATMA's (3 of each)

Owch. My feelings.

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Originally Posted by wicked-one

Jeah it really feels like "let´s forcefully revive all this dead content"

plus, some relic related Recieps showed up which i guess will be for full-geared specialists, or in other words "let´s shove some gils again to the 0.5% endgame crafters"

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so farm 18 atmas.....do the whole 2.0 lvl50 dungeons (snowcloak , dusk vigil HM ...) then alll the HW dungeons....and to finish go get some craft mat that is 100M on MB ?

SE master troll

Those weeks I spent becoming an omnicrafter better pay off >: D <3 (JK They already have)

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

They're also saying that it takes 16 of the ATMA's (3 of each)

Owch. My feelings.

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No, as I understand the dialouge, you need one Astral and one Umbral Item... each of those 2 Items need 3 elementary Luminous Stones (6 elements in sum = 6 HW regions)

so it´s 6, 3 of each light and dark to make those 2 items for the weapon.

that´s at least how i understood it... but we will see soon, maintenance should be over anytime soon

(5+ hours for a 100 MB of Patch seems quite long in my oppinion, maybe they must patch the EU Datacenter with the 64k management link they span to NA xD )

Looks like atma, passable by zeta, then some dungeons, and then some kind of books again.... and finally some crafting, so yeah... just reused junk like from original relic/zeta. >.<

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Originally Posted by Hanayumi

Looks like atma, passable by zeta, then some dungeons, and then some kind of books again.... and finally some crafting, so yeah... just reused junk like from original relic/zeta. >.<

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As I said earlier, 3.x shoukd have been named A Realm Recycled

originality is on some other shore...

Copy and pasting must really take a toll on a person if it took a 2 months delay and a vacation to come up with this. At least now we know why we can't have anything new, it would literally kill them from exhaustion.

I don't even know why it took them so long and this wasn't on 3.0 when it's just re using all the content.

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Originally Posted by Rose-Wild

I don't even know why it took them so long and this wasn't on 3.0 when it's just re using all the content.

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Because Ravana and upgraded law weapons would have been obsolete right away.

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

Because Ravana and upgraded law weapons would have been obsolete right away.

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Welcome to 2.0 the patch where everyone loved the relic.

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

Because Ravana and upgraded law weapons would have been obsolete right away.

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So...? Bismarck says "Hi!".

Personally, I'd rather do the Atma part and skip the crafting part. I only have 800k gil, so chances are that step will wall me good >_>

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

Because Ravana and upgraded law weapons would have been obsolete right away.

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It's not like they are the ones assigning ilvls to items in the first place.

Yup. Atma 3.0 Confirmed.

To bother or not to bother?

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Yup. Atma 3.0 Confirmed.

To bother or not to bother?

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My Zeta laughs at that.

DO you have to be on the class you accepted the relic quest as to get the Luminous Crystals (read: Atma) or can it be any class?

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

My Zeta laughs at that.

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Skipped Zetas and made it through ARR just fine. Pretty sure I'll live without an Anima weapon.

More than anything, I'm rather disappointed that SE showed both a lack of creativity AND a seeming ignorance of one of the most hated things they ever implemented.

Carrot and stick approach doesn't work so well when the carrot is old and moldy.

Remember the first steps of 2.0's relic, Chimera, Hydra all the HM Primals (which at the time were a bit of a challenge) they were all fun, I was kind of hoping for something like that again.

How did making Fate grinds and spamming old dungeons take them 7 months longer to develop than originally planned.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Carrot and stick approach don't work so well when the carrot is old and moldy.

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Oh, the carrot is new and juicy. You just have to go the same old way you always did to get it.

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

DO you have to be on the class you accepted the relic quest as to get the Luminous Crystals (read: Atma) or can it be any class?

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Can be any class as far as I read on reddit! (From 50 to 60, you just need the Heavendward scenario completed.)

You don't have to farm any crystals if you have zeta, just turn it in and be on your way with the quest line.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

You don't have to farm any crystals if you have zeta, just turn it in and be on your way with the quest line.

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yeah doing sastasha is amazing! , cant wait ....

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

yeah doing sasthasa is amazing! , cant wait ....

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Don't do it then? Of course it going to be a grind did anyone expect anything less?

so cant trade drg zeta for the mnk 170 starter wep and crystals arnt dropping.... 30 sea of clouds fates not one drop so far all gold ranked...

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Oh, the carrot is new and juicy. You just have to go the same old way you always did to get it.

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I'll pass. Not that big a fan of carrots really. Never was. Probably never will be.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Don't do it then? Of course it going to be a grind did anyone expect anything less?

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Is that going to be everyone's stock response for this thread?


People expected grind, but people are upset that it's basically the same darn thing as we did in 2.0. All this new relic is doing is supporting the argument that 3.0 is just 2.0 re-redone.

good job on another missed occasion to make something fun and bring down the level of fun to 0. Useless mind numbing not-challengin stupid grinding again.
i rather have something incredibly hard to clear and have a 100% drop at least its challenging and you have FUN with it (yeah fun, whats this thing right? its a game after all), than havin to put up with this garbage, spamming 1 2 3 and spamming fates. Wow.
I really wish most of the userbase would unsub and cut these devs salary off.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Is that going to be everyone's stock response for this thread?

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First they tell you don't do it, but when you take their advice and cut the things you don't enjoy, they list all the stuff they had told you not to do the week before when you say there isn't anything left to do.

Oh, and then they tell you leave but wonder why activity is low.

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Originally Posted by Miscreant

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Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't just repeat 2.0's quest line for 3.0, then having it lead into the fate and dungeon grind in subsequent patches.

What a shame... Was plenty of thing to use and make the grind different and fun, but they came up with all this old garbage.

The only fun part of the relic was back in 2.0 the primal thing.

And guys, seriously, why Atmas? ._. i can see from now the Bot-train doing fates effortless.

Really a nice idea SE.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

I'll pass. Not that big a fan of carrots really. Never was. Probably never will be.

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Same. I prefer Dark Drivers (kudos to whoever gets "that" forum reference).

Wasn't these actually the mob farm items? Pretty sure they said players will need to kill mobs in order to get an item of some kind.