1.19a Patch Notes

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Basically exp will begin to degrade if members are outside the optimum range (+/-5 levels?)

So now, as it was originally intended, a rank 50 in a party with anyone pretty much under 40 will cause no one to get exp. Meaning PLing must be done from outside the party now.

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I'm not sure this is correct. Assuming they are going back to an exp formula similar to pre 1.19, PLing (in the same way) is still very possible, just at a slightly slower rate than post 1.19.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

wait, so based on this it seems like we might still be able to PL quite easily:



Can anyone explain this to me? Before 1.19, we were able to have a level 50 and a level 1 in the same party. Then if we fought level 10 mobs, the level 50 char got no exp but the level 1 chars would. Is that still the case? Or is it more like if the level 50 gets normal exp, the level 1 will get none?

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In 1.19 plvl was possible from within the group, now plvl has to be while not grouped up. Meaning lower level has to claim the mob before it can be killed no more afk leveling.

All I hope for at this point is that PL will be truly voluntary effort and not something that benefits him as much as the player getting PL'd (through a party of 8 PLvling themselves taking turns).

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Originally Posted by Mindx3

In 1.19 plvl was possible from within the group, now plvl has to be while not grouped up. Meaning lower level has. To claim the mob before it can be killed no more afk leveling.

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That was possible before 1.19, just slightly differently.

let me explain the difference.

POST 1.19 PLing
group consists of 1 level 50 and 7 level 35s
the 50 kills everything while the rest watch, the level 35s get more exp than the level 50
everyone got exp

PRE 1.19 PLing
group consists of 1 level 50 and 7 level 1s
the 50 kills everything but the level 1s only get exp if the level 50 gets none or very little
only the low level chars get exp

I am pleased with the saving of actions and Natalan

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

That was possible before 1.19, just slightly differently.

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Really i didnt kno it was possible to attack claimed mobs outside of party in 1.18

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Originally Posted by Mindx3

Really i didnt kno it was possible to attack claimed mobs outside of party in 1.18

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it wasnt
but you could still be 50 in a group of low ranked people and get them tons of easy quick exp back then too

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

That was possible before 1.19, just slightly differently.

let me explain the difference.

POST 1.19 PLing
group consists of 1 level 50 and 7 level 35s
the 50 kills everything while the rest watch, the level 35s get more exp than the level 50
everyone got exp

PRE 1.19 PLing
group consists of 1 level 50 and 7 level 1s
the 50 kills everything but the level 1s only get exp if the level 50 gets none or very little
only the low level chars get exp

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And now:

Post 1.19a PLing

2 groups, the low level group and the level 50(s) powerleveling them.
The low level group engages an enemy (likely within 10 levels of their own), claims enemies, level 50 kills them and the low level group gets full EXP.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

it wasnt
but you could still be 50 in a group of low ranked people and get them tons of easy quick exp back then too

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Hmmm yah i remember that, it wasnt as good tho, doubt they will go back to a similar xp formula as 1.18 as they dont want players going afk.

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Originally Posted by Mindx3

Really i didnt kno it was possible to attack claimed mobs outside of party in 1.18

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that actually doesn't have anything to do with it.

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Originally Posted by Mindx3

Hmmm yah i remember that, it wasnt as good tho, doubt they will go back to a similar xp formula as 1.18 as they dont want players going afk.

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well we will see what they do

the "best" solution to everything is for exp to finaly start scaling like it does in most other games
with exp gains the same for everyone in party, based on whoever is the highest level....


but thats probly not what they did

we will see

"Actions and abilities set to the action bar are now saved when changing classes.
When changing to a class for which action bar settings have been saved, those settings will automatically be loaded. Any recast timers in place will not be reset by changing classes."

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D thank you thank you thank you finnaly

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Originally Posted by Arcell

And now:

Post 1.19a PLing

2 groups, the low level group and the level 50(s) powerleveling them.
The low level group engages an enemy (likely within 10 levels of their own), claims enemies, level 50 kills them and the low level group gets full EXP.

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I'm thinking that this might still be possible with a single group. Check it out:

With the previous formula (pre 1.19) if a group consisted of lets say 1 rank 48 and 7 rank 1s and the 48 fought r45+ mobs the rank 1s got nothing because they were considered too low. However, if that same group fought rank 10 mobs, the rank 48 was considered too high so the rank 1s got all the SP.

I suppose we'll have to try after the patch to see for sure what's possible now...

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I'm thinking that this might still be possible with a single group. Check it out:

With the previous formula (pre 1.19) if a group consisted of lets say 1 rank 48 and 7 rank 1s and the 48 fought r45+ mobs the rank 1s got nothing because they were considered too low. However, if that same group fought rank 10 mobs, the rank 48 was considered too high so the rank 1s got all the SP.

I suppose we'll have to try after the patch to see for sure what's possible now...

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I think xp will be killed if a higher level is in your group, how much higher idk...as for killing much higher mobs the xp will most likely be capped, and the low lvl runs the risk of being 1 shot so its not worth it

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Originally Posted by Arcell

And now:

Post 1.19a PLing

2 groups, the low level group and the level 50(s) powerleveling them.
The low level group engages an enemy (likely within 10 levels of their own), claims enemies, level 50 kills them and the low level group gets full EXP.

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Why not just keep the R50 in the group. Sure the lower rank ones will take a small SP hit, but since most of them are within 5 ranks of each other, they'll still get decent SP.

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

Why not just keep the R50 in the group. Sure the lower rank ones will take a small SP hit, but since most of them are within 5 ranks of each other, they'll still get decent SP.

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Yep, small exp hit per mob, but HUGE exp boost per hour.

I didn't see any mention of the issue causing monsters of different species to link.

As fun as it is at times to have 10+ mobs hitting on your party I was hoping it would be fixed somewhat.

if they fix the diffculty in leve's and the amount of xp you gain, this PL shouldn't be an issue.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

I didn't see any mention of the issue causing monsters of different species to link.

As fun as it is at times to have 10+ mobs hitting on your party I was hoping it would be fixed somewhat.

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I thought that the link system was suposed to have the mob/s you are fighting be able to call for help once in the fight and it would not be restricted to the mob type. So the mob/s you are beating on can call for anything within range to come help.
Well thats what I read for the 1.19 patch notes on linking.

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Originally Posted by Haledos

No more power levelling - thank GOD

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Oh it's still there, and honestly I don't understand why all the weak minded people are getting all upset over how other people play the game. It's a rather obvious display of immaturity.

Really good patch info :) too bad thread turning into another PL discussion thread...lol

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An issue wherein the system message “Materia conversion successful!” would not fade as intended.

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This was annoying as hell... good!

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[dev1202] The rate at which the Disciple of the Land ability Fingerprints of the Gods triggers has been increased. Also, once the ability has triggered, its effect will remain active for all gathering attempts at the current gathering point.

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YES!

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[dev1203] Actions and abilities set to the action bar are now saved when changing classes.

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HELL YES!

Wow I missed the Fingerprint of the Gods Part. PRINCESS SHALL BE WORKING IN THE FIELDS TODAY

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Originally Posted by Mishakai

Oh it's still there, and honestly I don't understand why all the weak minded people are getting all upset over how other people play the game. It's a rather obvious display of immaturity.

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You see, we can't determine this yet, but powerleveling won't be as it is now because it's obvious a level 1 will not be able to get xp or enough xp from higher level killing highish level mobs.

Also it's not a display of immaturity, it's just how the current MMO generation is now -- People went from just playing the MMO, to knitpickers and "have to be my way or the highway".

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

Yay on the saved actions! Instead of five macros for the class, I can save on two macros worth (two to set up abilities that will never get swapped out, the other three to set up abilities based on role (DPS, Tank, Solo)).

And if similar leveled parties are unaffected, great also! Viva la partae that works together, lives together!

edit: Affordable low level gear?! YES!!! And I'm not just saying that because I questioned who was buying the 1000 gil priced low level items in the wards.

Neat on the sheep. On a more selfish note, I hope the boars in Coerthas drop hides. That one spot in Treespeak made for good leveling at the time and served to fuel my leatherworking with aggressive melee-oriented mobs. But competing with a level 50 for it was less than fun.



om12 that'll be the day of funness *thinks endearingly of Dungeon Fighter when the Captcha showed up during a boss fight*

Patch 1.19b [dev1024] An issue where the CAPTCHA required to perform synthesis would trigger the User Account Control dialog box and result in an "Unable to detect DirectX device" error has now been fixed for Windows XP users. Windows XP users will now receive this error message too.

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FYI there is more than 1 spot with boars at Treespeak.

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Originally Posted by XyonicS

I thought that the link system was suposed to have the mob/s you are fighting be able to call for help once in the fight and it would not be restricted to the mob type. So the mob/s you are beating on can call for anything within range to come help.
Well thats what I read for the 1.19 patch notes on linking.

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Mocchi said its not working as intended I believe, I was just expecting the issue to be fixed in this patch and not 1.20. oh wells.

Patch 1.19a = awesome
Being implemented later today? = even better
Having to wait to play post 1.19a? = sucks, but we'll get over it :D

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Originally Posted by Square-Enix

An issue wherein battles could not be sustained with an enemy that had left its territory.

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No more annoying running away monsters in the middle of a fight? Awesome.

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Originally Posted by Serdapi

FYI there is more than 1 spot with boars at Treespeak.

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As well as other locations with boars. Mor Dhona, Tam Tara, Riversmeet

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Originally Posted by Spuffin

Good Bye PL Q.Q Now it's time for me to make a whole separate thread on how they intend on fixing another current problem with with leveling

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Hope this is sarcasm.

Saved action bars! TP degen less brutal! 1.19 just got -even better-.

I <3 you, SE.

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

As well as other locations with boars. Mor Dhona, Tam Tara, Riversmeet

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Shhhh people might stop complaining about the amount of boars in the game and they might not put them in places everyone goes. /sarcasm

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Originally Posted by Teakwood

Saved action bars! TP degen less brutal! 1.19 just got -even better-.

I <3 you, SE.

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Will make solo exp chains easier

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

First do you ever shut up about other who complain? or are you here on the forums just to do that? The forums are here to complain and talk about our views.Listen he said it should take 2-3month for someone to get 50 it does not seem like the case. I can care less anyways just saying why that was not fix but ya at least the over broken Powerlevel would be fix.

Not to be rude but come on if you can complain then other can too and i'm not even complain i just saying if he want someone to take 2-3month to get 50 and it took me 5days of hard grinding how does that fit in with 2-3month even if i was partying more then a casual that still too quick but whatever i don't mind i just asking if his views change or he fixing that later.

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what I think his intentions are, are for it to take 2-3 months of casual playing to get to 50.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/i...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Square-Enix
An issue wherein battles could not be sustained with an enemy that had left its territory.

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

No more annoying running away monsters in the middle of a fight? Awesome.

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Actually, I quite liked this feature as my butt was saved many times because the mob(s) stopped attacking me and went back to their spawn point...Kiting FTW! (As a solo Archer I need to employ Kiting frequently.)

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Originally Posted by Krausus

what I think his intentions are, are for it to take 2-3 months of casual playing to get to 50.

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Doesn't matter how many times it's said, people still seem to assume it'll take 2-3 months no matter how much you play. Which was the goal of the fatigue system: slow down players with more time. But it only hurt players with less time as those with the time and resources just powered their way through the decrease.

I agree, 2-3 months is a casual target. A player needs to make only 24k a day -- which can be done comfortably in an hour -- for two and a half months to reach cap someone playing 5 hours a day can hit cap with the same rate per hour in 15 days.

Post 1.19, the slowest part of leveling solo seems to be 16-20.

I hope that this range gets some attention in the future.

Sorry if this has already been answered, but is this patch dropping today?

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Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn

Sorry if this has already been answered, but is this patch dropping today?

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Not Likely, it was posted in the "In Testing" section so I'm guessing next week.

*Saved Actions. - yesyesyesyesyesyesyes

*The rate of TP loss while not engaged in combat has been reduced from 300 TP per 3 seconds to 90 TP per 3 seconds. - yesyesyesyesyesyesye

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Originally Posted by Krausus

Not Likely, it was posted in the "In Testing" section so I'm guessing next week.

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2pm PST today.


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