Just need to vent...

TiaHariberux3 : for you blm is better than smn ? as war i don't see realy what can overkill easy, since i win most of the 1 vs 1 if i am full CD, but i remember got a full group smn heavy, it was kinda a big mess XD, because them bursted all in the same times and we got pwned easy, but your point is correct, them lack some defence skill like the blm one. You are right about adders, there is some point we are lacking by exemple we was turtling too much when we defend, but it's better than 2 month ago, 2 month ago i was winning 5%, in secure it was 35% of win most of the times, this week i got 42% of win for 14 games, maybe i got lucky with the group i got but it's sure a lot better than the 5% of win when seize got released XD. I may do more PVP next week to have the correct ratio adders have now.

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Originally Posted by kensatsu

TiaHariberux3 : for you blm is better than smn ? as war i don't see realy what can overkill easy, since i win most of the 1 vs 1 if i am full CD, but i remember got a full group smn heavy, it was kinda a big mess XD, because them bursted all in the same times and we got pwned easy, but your point is correct, them lack some defence skill like the blm one.

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blm is alright but is harder to play and for 1vs1 smn will be better than blm. It dont really matter what u play blm or smn both good if u can play it blm just harder and smn can move. As long as u dont waste ur burst damage combo smn is pretty op (can burst down every tank/dps in some secs)

Vent? I'd vent when both Mael and Adders do absolute illogical moves that make no sense apart from screwing Flames over in the grandest sense. Double team all games? Yeah okay...

Logic and reason doesn't dictate wins in Seize anymore. It's just a grudge match of which GC you hate the most and at this moment in time, both rouse my ire.

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Originally Posted by Exsequens

Vent? I'd vent when both Mael and Adders do absolute illogical moves that make no sense apart from screwing Flames over in the grandest sense. Double team all games? Yeah okay...

Logic and reason doesn't dictate wins in Seize anymore. It's just a grudge match of which GC you hate the most and at this moment in time, both rouse my ire.

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I can say the same about Flame and Mael. As a former flame I can tell you it's more about your stance and perspective than the real truth. It's easy to notice 2 GCs attacking yours but what about you when attacking another GC that is defending against another? To that GC it seems as though you're working together to oppress them.

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Originally Posted by Yaichiro

I can say the same about Flame and Mael. As a former flame I can tell you it's more about your stance and perspective than the real truth. It's easy to notice 2 GCs attacking yours but what about you when attacking another GC that is defending against another? To that GC it seems as though you're working together to oppress them.

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There is a difference between me saying that they screw Flames over and you implying Adders get double teamed in all your matches. Perspective? I'm confident in my ability to see truth.
The truth is laid bare in the matches. It speaks for itself. I'm not saying I get double teamed in "ALL" my matches. And you cannot deny that people from each different GC do the absolute stupidest things known to man.

sandwitch happen to adder, flamme and mael, it happen when two GC is going to attack one, it happen more often when you got a tomelight in mid for an obvious reason^^

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Originally Posted by kensatsu

sandwitch happen to adder, flamme and mael, it happen when two GC is going to attack one, it happen more often when you got a tomelight in mid for an obvious reason^^

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Also when peeps on your teams decide to attack both GCs, gets stumped, and then chased back to complete the sandwich.

yeah a lot of sandwitch happen like that, if we attack both mael and flammes when we get back for new nodes, mael and flamme is chasing us and achieve us where our node spawn, we get sandwitch and we provoke it. So don't provoke sandwitch XD

http://i.imgur.com/E2dosDn.jpg

21% ...
/cry

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Originally Posted by Guesswhat

http://i.imgur.com/E2dosDn.jpg

21% ...
/cry

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Is that from your server or datacenter?

That is from datacenter. Mael only.

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Originally Posted by Guesswhat

That is from datacenter. Mael only.

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Datacenter (all GCs)
http://postimg.org/image/57knkv57d/
My Server (all GCs)
http://postimg.org/image/c288etd0f/

Can't complain about it if I look at others xD

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Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3

Datacenter (all GCs)
http://postimg.org/image/57knkv57d/
My Server (all GCs)
http://postimg.org/image/c288etd0f/

Can't complain about it if I look at others xD

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Yes, we know that flames sucks, the weakes gameplay ever. Can only play 24vs1 24vs10 ..., thats why fl can easy win, but in 1vs1 is every one without skill. And the pool is ful with healer, meal have luck if they can have 3 healer and I don't mean the dps who change to heal and don't know how it work.

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Originally Posted by Redfame

meal have luck if they can have 3 healer and I don't mean the dps who change to heal and don't know how it work.

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Adders kinda have same problem as there is only handfull of dedicated healers in here, you can see this easily by looking their HP, if its 10k+ it means he/she knows how healer pvp works. Now i dont mean those that have less than that outright suck but its still good indicator imo.

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Originally Posted by Redfame

Yes, we know that flames sucks, the weakes gameplay ever. Can only play 24vs1 24vs10 ..., thats why fl can easy win, but in 1vs1 is every one without skill. And the pool is ful with healer, meal have luck if they can have 3 healer and I don't mean the dps who change to heal and don't know how it work.

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HAHAHA the rage is real who cares about 1vs1 ofc u say this cause u are a smn I can 1vs1 everyone with my smn too not much skill

Vent you say?

By victories - 6 Badders in the top 100.
By victory-rate - 0 Badders.

And that used to be different:

Take January for example;
By victories - 22 Adders.
By victory-rate - 14 Adders.

Adders are hopeless. While I didn't play many games since 3.0, I remember having 2 wins total yet.

Adders on chaos are really horrible. The only reason I'm in is, is because I want the pony. I already got the mael and flame pony so this is the last one. The queue times are really good compared to the others. Though adders have a lot more kill snatchers than flames. With Flames I usually end up with 8 kills+ and 0 deaths. With adders I'm getting frustrated because there is always this one melee who charges at the guy I got down from 100 to 1% at last second and he gets the kill. Rarely do I get fever now and my frustration of those obvious kill snatches leads me to let down my guard at times. 70 wins to go and I'll go back to my home sweet home maelstrom.
However it's funny killing people from other GC's you know :D

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Originally Posted by BunnyChain

Vent you say?

By victories - 6 Badders in the top 100.
By victory-rate - 0 Badders.

And that used to be different:

Take January for example;
By victories - 22 Adders.
By victory-rate - 14 Adders.

Adders are hopeless. While I didn't play many games since 3.0, I remember having 2 wins total yet.

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At the moment adder is getting better than mael from what I've seen.

This week we get eternal second in adders, hard to to get a win XD,
I got my 300th win in adder with the only win i got since yesterday XD.
Like i said Adders was very good in the secure mode at 2.2, our result got decreased in the slaughter mode and even more in seize at release (where adders was realy hopeless for every games), we get better atm but not good enough to get win often and have a good win ratio. so my weeks stat = atm is 10% win 70%second, 20%third.
a good reading of the game is needed in seize, after come the skills to be good pvper oppenent, and advoid be too much greedy to not provoke too much sandwitch situtation or greedy and go too far to kill someone. it's easy to miss a win because of one this 3 reasons, we certainly need more awareness.
I get greedy sometimes too, it happen a lot when i don't want to waste burst skill XD

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Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3

HAHAHA the rage is real who cares about 1vs1 ofc u say this cause u are a smn I can 1vs1 everyone with my smn too not much skill

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im not sure about "everyone"

It kinda happened again... Reached lvl 50 with mael. Flames wins like 3/4 matches. My win rate with mael is about 20%. Switch to flames. Now Mael wins all the time. omg Hahahah!

I wouldn't mind it that much if the queues weren't such a hassle. In adders we lost a lot too, but at least I got to play.

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Originally Posted by Synestra

Adders kinda have same problem as there is only handfull of dedicated healers in here, you can see this easily by looking their HP, if its 10k+ it means he/she knows how healer pvp works. Now i dont mean those that have less than that outright suck but its still good indicator imo.

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10k is not as important as you think in 72 man seize. Consider when you scroll back through logs you get hit by multiple 1-2k attacks followed by 9320 limit break. Or dragoons and warriors that seem to have some combo that has multiple 3k attacks and finished with 5k. While the loss in healing is huge by going full vit to get the extra hp. Premades focus me down like nobodies business. Most pugs won't risk the gauntlet of 8 other players to get to you.

If you only have 1 or 2 healers and dumb dps go vit. If you like to lone wolf nodes or solo dps that don't know better then to 1 vs 1 a healer. But the margin at 60 for full vit to Damage done isn't as great as it was at 50.

I have quit more games this week out of pure frustration with the Adders on Primal than ever before, the sheer unwillingness to even group up is infuriating at this point. Christ I cant wait to abandon this for Wolves Den soon so I can get out of Button Masher Scrubfest 2015 Simulator.

(Didn't wanna make a new thread, so /vent)