Class-Specific Limit Breaks

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Originally Posted by Bernelli

They give you people what you ask for, and you STILL find a way to bitch about it.

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This is why we can't have nice things!

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Originally Posted by Akiza

I think op wants player specific limit breaks where each the limit break gauge is attched to the player rather than the party which I agree with.

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But wouldn't they have to rework the whole system of how LBs are attained in a fight? Otherwise the boss would just be a gooey puddle from all of the DPS LBs.

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Originally Posted by FOOLK1LLAH

But wouldn't they have to rework the whole system of how LBs are attained in a fight? Otherwise the boss would just be a gooey puddle from all of the DPS LBs.

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Or "balance" it by severely weakening the power of limit breaks to justify how often and how many are used at once.

I think they should have made them like the job specific pvp super ability. They are useful and unique to each job.

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

Being able to see the full LB3 animation at the inn would be a really nice feature. Because even when it's an LB you see used more often, you don't always have time to pause what you're doing to actually look at it ^^; Especially if it's not you doing the LB.

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Maybe if the LB animation get changed into a LB cutscene

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

I few weeks back a I was doing a trial roulette on my whm and it started to go south. Was the first and only time I've ever used my LB3 as a Healer (I didn't even have it on my bar I use it so little) and man was it awesome. I have yet to see a tank LB3.

I'd love a way to at the very least see the LBs because I generally only ever see a drk or the occasional blm and smn out in the wilds.

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You can easily see them all. Youtube or play Ifrit Hard Mode and steal the LB as soon as it's available.

Ifrit hard is so easy now no one will even notice, and if they do who cares it's ifrit hard mode.

On paper it's a really cool idea but when you think about it, they have 4 limit breaks now and you mostly see one, and sometimes another. As a bard, I've never used it. And I don't remember a tank LB.

So.. if they can't make 4 limit breaks relevant, they might struggle to provide one to every class.

The only way I could see it work would be to throw out the party limit break and let every character have their own individual limit breaks and bars. Maybe a buff or a big hit or something.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

You can easily see them all. Youtube or play Ifrit Hard Mode and steal the LB as soon as it's available.

Ifrit hard is so easy now no one will even notice, and if they do who cares it's ifrit hard mode.

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Wow this is terrible advice and statement in general.

"Don't worry, you can see your skill animation on a separate video outside the game because our game is designed for you to never see IN game!"
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"Don't worry, the skill is NEVER useful so the only way you'll be able to see it is in a context where absolutely nothing matters!"

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

It's perfect how it is. The LBs should /never/ have varying effects, because people will just pick out the one that does the most damage or has the 'best' effect and boom, that class is now mandatory in every static and no one else is allowed to limit break.

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"I hate variety, everything should be the same! Because if things we'd have choices, we'd pick the best ones!"

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"that class is now mandatory in every static and no one else is allowed to limit break"

You mean like how right now only DPS are allowed to limit break? You mean mandatory classes like how SE is actually FORCING players to use a formulaic party setup in essentially all content?

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Originally Posted by Razard

And therein lies your problem. And thanks for the Hyperbole, makes it easier.

Just because different classes have almost the same efficiency doesn't mean the road to the result is the same. E.g you cant tell me with a straight face that SMN and BLK, the Caster dps, are anything alike.

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I don't think you understand what ckc22 means by his statement. If what you are saying is that variety and variation is BAD and UNNECESSARY then he is sarcastically responding that 'then the game doesn't need, for example in the healer category, Astrologians, White Mages and Scholars. We should just have a single unvarying class called HEALER' only then can we achieve the homogenized, bland and 'balanced' future you are advocating for.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Maybe if the LB animation get changed into a LB cutscene

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Then someone got disconnected during the LB scene and everyone are stuck in limbo~~ lol

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Originally Posted by Tsuole

Wow this is terrible advice and statement in general.

"Don't worry, you can see your skill animation on a separate video outside the game because our game is designed for you to never see IN game!"
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"Don't worry, the skill is NEVER useful so the only way you'll be able to see it is in a context where absolutely nothing matters!"

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More so, "You don't raid so you'll probably not see the situation where it is useful come up, may as well try it out somewhere else".

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Originally Posted by Tsuole

"I hate variety, everything should be the same! Because if things we'd have choices, we'd pick the best ones!"

Also point quote:
"that class is now mandatory in every static and no one else is allowed to limit break"

You mean like how right now only DPS are allowed to limit break? You mean mandatory classes like how SE is actually FORCING players to use a formulaic party setup in essentially all content?

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Yes, that's how it works. All the LBs do the same potency for a reason. I love how your confusing logic sees one class being the only person able to limit break is somehow better than every DPS class limit breaking, though.

Also, of course, the 'best case scenario' LB, being melee DPS currently, will always be what people default too. This would not change with this thread's idea, and it would actually be made worse as stated above because it would be simplified to only the class with the 'best' result being allowed.

It's not even a big deal though, as a healer I use my LB and save runs all the time, and there were at least 3 fights in coil where the tank LB could be used. The tank LB could be more useful certainly, but everything else is pretty perfect and shouldn't be tampered with.

You're so overly hostile btw, it's adorable.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Maybe if the LB animation get changed into a LB cutscene

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Well, for the point of viewing it in the inn, they could make 'cutscene snippets' of the limit breaks and have them via the journal. That doesn't mean making the LB in combat be a cutscene ^^; Of course, you'd then either see their template characters performing the LB in those cutscenes or run the risk of breaking immersion by having a Weaver perform the Dark Knight LB3... But we already have the latter with being able to view all cutscenes (and inserting you the way you look now instead of how you looked then), no matter if it's a MSQ or a class/job quest or something else ^^

One thing you wouldn't be able to do, though, if they made cutscenes of it for viewing pleasure, is to turn the camera and see it from different angles. On the other hand, they could possibly expand on it a little, like for BLM LB3 turn the camera to show more clearly when the giant ball of death comes hurtling down towards the enemy ^_~

Another option would be to have some sort of mechanic where you activate an object that instantly gives you 3 full LB bars -- maybe limit it to when you're solo to avoid potential confusion/clashing with the normal LB bar -- and a target for executing said LB3 onto. And either have the LB bar expire after a certain amount of time, say 20-30 seconds like other buffs, or have it expire on leaving the area (to prevent it from being used in actual combat). But I doubt that could go in the inn room, since they have strict rules for what you're allowed to do in your room to avoid disturbing other guests (in-game reason). Which is why you're not allowed to craft or even dye/glamour things in there. So to allow guests to do really violent combat moves might not fit too well xD And I'm not sure where else one could put it where you're in an instance of your own and where you can't go into actual combat to abuse this.
Maybe if they make a 'training range' in the new Scion HQ whenever they regroup and all that? Since that's likely to take a couple of patches anyway, it'd give the dev team quite some time to figure out how to do it, even if that time is likely already busy with lots of other tweaks and additions.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Yes, that's how it works. All the LBs do the same potency for a reason. I love how your confusing logic sees one class being the only person able to limit break is somehow better than every DPS class limit breaking, though.

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LBs do the same potency? O.o....
Melee > Caster > Bard/MCH (in respective order), was the order I thought.


i dunno

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Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2

LBs do the same potency? O.o....
Melee > Caster > Bard/MCH (in respective order), was the order I thought.


i dunno

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Each lb type is the same, meaning, for example, two casters will do the same damage

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Each lb type is the same, meaning, for example, two casters will do the same damage

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Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2

Melee > Caster > Bard/MCH (in respective order), was the order I thought.

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Huh. I was under the impression it was Melee > Ranged > Caster. (Since Ranged is less likely to hit as many enemies as Caster LB -- not that this comes into effect often on bosses/raids, but stiill.)

Then again, I don't really play any DPS classes, so... ^^; I haven't been paying much attention.