Crushing Dreams Faster

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

Your server is better than mine then. Gatherers on my server are being stubborn and keeping prices high, which in turn means crafters can't drop prices.

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Same here. But its not like many gatherers can be bothered to farm them in the first place, despite them being worth millions.

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Originally Posted by Nomad-phx

Yes but 10 of gatherers upgrades are crafted only pieces I.e if you want accessories/belt/offtool you need to do favors too

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That's right. They'd need to gather favor items for their own upgrades.

I believe that the i180 non-crafted gear provides a bigger base boost than accessories (mostly GP upgrades if unmelded I think), so I'd get those first myself if I were a gatherer. If the gatherer is also a crafter, they can gather favor items for a while, but only so they can craft their own gear (especially the offhand), not to sell. All of the gatherers that I know are going for the i180 gear first.

Gatherers who cannot craft will have to find a crafter however.

It doesn't really make sense for gatherers to sell favor items prior to getting the i180s unless the gil reward is significant enough or they have very little gil savings themselves.

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Originally Posted by ClairDeLune

Square Enix decelopers need a lesson in math terminology.

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1) *developers
2) does that mean you need a spelling lesson?
3) it's not the developers that need the lesson, but the Japanese -> English translators.
4) English and Math are also separate languages, so I wouldn't expect a Japanese and English language expert (they would have to be an expert in both to be able to translate, wouldn't they?) to also be a Math expert.
5) I don't know if you've done it yourself, but translating can be intense work. A little slip up like that is easy to make when you just got done translating a paragraph from one language into another language that doesn't have the same linguistic roots.

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Originally Posted by MN_14

It'll help a number of crafters at least. I've done some favor grinding previously, but even I can't handle 11 hours of gathering a week.

Whether more gatherers will start participating or not will probably depend on whether a healthy market can be established for these items. After all, by trading gatherer tokens for favors, they'ed be slowing their own DoL progression down (meaning that prices might remain relatively high until a lot of gatherers have already gotten their i180 gear).

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I was happy with the change. I was able to get 80 ooids in less than 2 hours of farming :D and here I was worried that I was going to run out of things to watch before I finished my favor grind ...

I'd prefer a cash shop instead of making new glamour items ridiculously expensive ingame.

This made me LOL in real life.

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Originally Posted by TechnoTechie

4) English and Math are also separate languages, so I wouldn't expect a Japanese and English language expert (they would have to be an expert in both to be able to translate, wouldn't they?) to also be a Math expert.

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Both the Japanese -> English and Math skills required for this particular translation are basic. I'm bad at both, I can do it perfectly fine.
Well, maybe the English requirement is advanced, I can't really tell.

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Originally Posted by TechnoTechie

5) I don't know if you've done it yourself, but translating can be intense work. A little slip up like that is easy to make when you just got done translating a paragraph from one language into another language that doesn't have the same linguistic roots.

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I do it a lot actually. A downside of not being able to read a language fluently is that you are forced to spend time translating it, as strange as it may sound.
Not to mention since I normally care little about proper grammar I often phrase things in ways that should not be used in 'this' language.

However, the only reason the error is in the patchnotes to begin with is because for some reason the translator decided to rephrase, instead of providing a direct translation.
Direct translation would have been ''tripled'' which is a 100% accurate translation, and doesnt serve to confuse anyone that isnt fluent in English. (as was apparently the case)


Since we have other sources its just semantics at this point to argue this.
However such things are easily avoided if you focus on direct translation, rather then the way you bring it. Especially for patchnotes.



On topic:
Favor materials are faster to obtain now, but ultimately still capped. Prices are still very high. Unknown if enough people will start doing them so they're atleast steadily available regardless of pricing.

The system is bad as everyone know but OP's reason is so poor, you are basically saying they need to nerf A4S now cuz everyone want that mount NOW.
They will nerf both (A4S and this sh1t favor) and you will get them one day (faster than never).