Linkshell Options

How about a Linkshell Mail service, I know SE are thinking of implementing a mail service into game but I mean a way to send 1 mail to all members of the linkshell instead of having to copy/paste names into several mails.

bump for more love >.>

Anyone know the proper tag for Linkshell related stuff so i can remake this thread with proper taggage?

I'm not sure how but I think you can add tags to an existing thread, but I doubt you can add to the title this way.

There a button to Add / Edit Tags at the bottom of the page when you're checking a thread. Also there's no need to add the tag to the title.

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Originally Posted by Aramil

There a button to Add / Edit Tags at the bottom of the page when you're checking a thread. Also there's no need to add the tag to the title.

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Oh nice, thx but do you know the LS department's code?

You can check the current dev tags there:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...691&pp=&page=8
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...691&pp=&page=7

Unfortunately there's currently no dev tag related linkshell.

list of Tags: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/138 (its the in-development forum)

not sure which will fit, just put "linkshell" its massive in the cloud lol

i see alot of kicking promoting from anywhere/ what about kicking members not online that quit the game and never retired from linkshell.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

i see alot of kicking promoting from anywhere/ what about kicking members not online that quit the game and never retired from linkshell.

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That is included in the "anywhere", I will edit it to be more specific.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

That is included in the "anywhere", I will edit it to be more specific.

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ok sorry i misunderstood it meaning not having to travel to find the person because they have to be right beside you sorta thing.

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Originally Posted by viion

One option I dont see which might be good is a "personal message", i've seen this in other games and XI kind of had it but it was on the Friendslist and only in playonline, not ingame.

A personal message be useful for if someone is going away on holiday or something he can put the message there so the leader doesnt boot him, be similar to windows live messenger personal message.

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This can be done on the Linkshells website instead.

Agree with all of the ideas in the OP. Good stuff!

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

ok sorry i misunderstood it meaning not having to travel to find the person because they have to be right beside you sorta thing.

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Yea I ran the list off the top of my head at like 6am when the servers went down so I didn't add many details.

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The ability to talk to multiple LSs with out having to change my current one. (maybe by doing /l#?)

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I would expand on this by adding a few options like the chat in FFXI

/linkshell# or /L# ---- Changes current ls to that ls

/linkshell# or /L# + message ----- sends message to the indicated linkshell.

This enable response to a message without going through the menu.

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Originally Posted by Aldarin

I would expand on this by adding a few options like the chat in FFXI

/linkshell# or /L# ---- Changes current ls to that ls

/linkshell# or /L# + message ----- sends message to the indicated linkshell.

This enable response to a message without going through the menu.

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I read thatt wrong lol, I guess a text command to swap LSs would be kinda handy. I have the "/L# Message" in the list.

A bump before I head to bed.

the ability to use mulitple ls's is a good idea however i foresee issues when it comes to end game,
if SE implement an arena like dyna into FFXIV its simply not going to be practical (esp when server population grows ) to have 5 different ls chats going on.
I know it is currently possible to turn off selected ls chat from being displayed but because you are still visable in the ls ppls still try and talk to you,
I think you should only be visable as online under your selected Active LS and maybe a /sea all function for all other game player!

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Originally Posted by Embers

the ability to use mulitple ls's is a good idea however i foresee issues when it comes to end game,
if SE implement an arena like dyna into FFXIV its simply not going to be practical (esp when server population grows ) to have 5 different ls chats going on.
I know it is currently possible to turn off selected ls chat from being displayed but because you are still visable in the ls ppls still try and talk to you,
I think you should only be visable as online under your selected Active LS and maybe a /sea all function for all other game player!

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It's already a problem...


Contested mobs are a great example...

one person is in your ls but also in another... your main ls says we're heading to y to kill x, guess what lil joe says, theyre going to kill x! and magically they show up.

I do agree it's good in the scheme of things but ppl are schmucks, can't really hope it works out well =(

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Originally Posted by Seikninkuru

It's already a problem...


Contested mobs are a great example...

one person is in your ls but also in another... your main ls says we're heading to y to kill x, guess what lil joe says, theyre going to kill x! and magically they show up.

I do agree it's good in the scheme of things but ppl are schmucks, can't really hope it works out well =(

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Yea I see where that can be a problem. I might remove that from the list then and suggest using the FFXI LS system where you have to be active to view and talk in LS chat. I guess its up to EG shells to regulate their members and be all mean with the "Your only allowed to be in our LS ONLY!!!!" rules

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

As I have stated many times before since launch, we need better Linkshell options. My main issue is rebuilding the LS I created on September 22 to its former glory but I cannot do so with 19 of my 27 members being inactive cluttering up my LS. So here are a few LS options I believe should be worked on.

• Linkshell message.
  
• Leader controls to demote/promote/remove members from anywhere. (INCLUDES offline members)
  
• A way to show/hide offline members or change it so online members show up first.
  
• An option to show last login time/date of members.
  
• Being able to select a color pallette to change LS emblems to desired color combo.
  
• The ability to invite members of the LS to a group without having to use to the group search funtion.
  
• The ability to pass leadership to another player in the linkshell.
  
• The ability to see where and what Rank/class my members are.
  
• The ability to talk to multiple LSs with out having to change my current one. (maybe by doing /l#?)

I will add any GOOD suggestions to the list so lets hear them!

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lsmessage and the remote things are great,
however if your in a fairly active Ls like elite and a tight-knit group all members should be on your social list
and the social list takes most of your invite/seeing whos online/talking to members directly a function like the one you describe takes the social thing to be worthless... if your real life friends are not in your shell then sketchy (45/57 active members in Elite is on my social list)
dont think general/master of a shell should be passed unless they leaving the game and atm if your leader is seeking to leave might as well start over or join a already active shell.
takes me 5 secs already to see what rank who is by checking pro or lodestone ~.~ ingame would just make things laggy. then check social list to see if there on.

Loyalty ? ? ? why have more then one shell, If you have a shell that can do everything from sping to End of content for you having multiple ls just causes more drama.
Maybe because im a leader in Elite I onry rock one crest. understanding everyone whos not in my shell is on my social list.
Maybe a function to have everyone in your shell on your social list.
Hiding your online is kinda meh, if you dont want to be talked to just go to a special place and dont respond.
and making the social list available for like 500 people vice 200 because maybe one day ill have everyone on the server on the social list as long as they not on my blist.

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Originally Posted by MerlinOmniking

lsmessage and the remote things are great,
however if your in a fairly active Ls like elite and a tight-knit group all members should be on your social list
and the social list takes most of your invite/seeing whos online/talking to members directly a function like the one you describe takes the social thing to be worthless... if your real life friends are not in your shell then sketchy (45/57 active members in Elite is on my social list)
dont think general/master of a shell should be passed unless they leaving the game and atm if your leader is seeking to leave might as well start over or join a already active shell.
takes me 5 secs already to see what rank who is by checking pro or lodestone ~.~ ingame would just make things laggy. then check social list to see if there on.

Loyalty ? ? ? why have more then one shell, If you have a shell that can do everything from sping to End of content for you having multiple ls just causes more drama.
Maybe because im a leader in Elite I onry rock one crest. understanding everyone whos not in my shell is on my social list.
Maybe a function to have everyone in your shell on your social list.
Hiding your online is kinda meh, if you dont want to be talked to just go to a special place and dont respond.
and making the social list available for like 500 people vice 200 because maybe one day ill have everyone on the server on the social list as long as they not on my blist.

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Not all of my suggestions are based on the here and now situation and state of the game, months/years down the line a LS leader might say goodbye to his long time LS and the members want to continue, instead of remaking and such he could pass lead to one of his second in commands.

Not every linkshell is tight knit like that so using your own LS as an example is not going debunk the suggestion or make it lose merit. My LS is a bunch of nice, cool, mature and chill people with a few bad apples who ofcourse ragequit the game. Now when I check my LS list I have to scroll through 10+ ppl just to see a few ppl that are online.

Same concept in XI, the elitest only want you to have one shell, but you have friends with social shells or random shells just for the lulz with a name you just can't help but join. I am in favor of the latter, I have plenty of friends in XIV that has been growing since closed beta, I currently run my shell and I have pearl to my friend's LS and they have one to mine. Loyalty has nothing to do with this as I am not a douche and i don't condone any douche-baggery in my LS so if we do take part in end-game activities and they tell me another shell they are in is going to kill xyz NM and suggests we beat them to it, he'll find himself 1 less linkshell on his person.

These suggestions are for your average joe LSs and are only intended to help even without a way to communicate with multiple LSs people will still have more then one on them unless SE removes that feature. If you are having any lag issues with the game as it is now I would suggest a small upgrade instead of downing suggestions that wouldn't even add any stress on the network or computer no more then a 8year+ old game did back then.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

Now when I check my LS list I have to scroll through 10+ ppl just to see a few ppl that are online.

Same concept in XI, the elitest only want you to have one shell, but you have friends with social shells or random shells just for the lulz with a name you just can't help but join.

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I rarely look at the Ls list, I say hi in chat, the people on say hi back.
@ the one shell, As in Ls elite you can have more then one shell as long as your not a lead, but i do not see the point in having more then one shell anyways. If i wanted to gather people, whether their in elite or in another shell, i'd just check my social list see whos on which is sorted by whos online first then those offline.
Say their was a dynamis like event, I would rather see whos online that i already know is good at what they do then find a rag tag team of people who are content hogs that will take me years to get the gear i wanted in the first place.
One crest, many friends, No need for beef, Just check your social list it will solve many of your issues, like having one shell, one ls chat, one party chat, ability to see people online not in your current shell selected that you are friends with.
but seriously you could rock a crest armyofone, and still get all you need in the game through social list .

I suggest making a bigger pool of people on your social list keith if you want to downsize all your problems now. instead of waiting for somewhat useful adds, even though most could be solved by adding people to your social list

The only useful ls adds would be the Lsmessage and the remote boot.

please please please please.


I honestly thought that the Linkshell aspect of FFXIV was no where near close to being ready during the last phase of the beta. Then the system went live with no changes. Six months later Im not convinced this is the final design for the linkshell and that SE is more concerned about the "Company" system.

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Originally Posted by Yarr

please please please please.


I honestly thought that the Linkshell aspect of FFXIV was no where near close to being ready during the last phase of the beta. Then the system went live with no changes. Six months later Im not convinced this is the final design for the linkshell and that SE is more concerned about the "Company" system.

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Which may (or may not) extend the functionality of LS's in some capacity. There's been a lot of speculation that it will in some way.

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Originally Posted by origamikitsune

Which may (or may not) extend the functionality of LS's in some capacity. There's been a lot of speculation that it will in some way.

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I guess like everything else in this game, all we can do is wait. I just cant help but feel thats some of the small details could be addressed now. After all, its the attention to detail that made me fall in love with the Final Fantasy series.

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Originally Posted by MerlinOmniking

I rarely look at the Ls list, I say hi in chat, the people on say hi back.
@ the one shell, As in Ls elite you can have more then one shell as long as your not a lead, but i do not see the point in having more then one shell anyways. If i wanted to gather people, whether their in elite or in another shell, i'd just check my social list see whos on which is sorted by whos online first then those offline.
Say their was a dynamis like event, I would rather see whos online that i already know is good at what they do then find a rag tag team of people who are content hogs that will take me years to get the gear i wanted in the first place.
One crest, many friends, No need for beef, Just check your social list it will solve many of your issues, like having one shell, one ls chat, one party chat, ability to see people online not in your current shell selected that you are friends with.
but seriously you could rock a crest armyofone, and still get all you need in the game through social list .

I suggest making a bigger pool of people on your social list keith if you want to downsize all your problems now. instead of waiting for somewhat useful adds, even though most could be solved by adding people to your social list

The only useful ls adds would be the Lsmessage and the remote boot.

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Thats a personal opinion

The social list I use for friends that are not in my LS and friends that I added prior to them joining my LS. In XI I had to constantly sort through my friend's list because the 100-200(can't remember how much cap was) was constantly full. I make ALOT of friends when I play games like these and I should NOT have to use my social list to tell if my Linkshell members are online. It makes no since, why even have a Linkshell list if your gonna add everyone to your social?

I never liked the fact that you couldn't chat on more than one LS at a time in FFXI. I like that you can in FFXIV, although I would like shortcuts like /l1, /l2, etc... In particular I always thought it would be nice to view the chat from my main LS (which was a largely social LS) while doing something with an event LS. So, FFXIV has made progress in LS functionality at least in this one aspect. Now we just need events so there are reasons for event LSes.

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Originally Posted by HoolieWho

I never liked the fact that you couldn't chat on more than one LS at a time in FFXI. I like that you can in FFXIV, although I would like shortcuts like /l1, /l2, etc... In particular I always thought it would be nice to view the chat from my main LS (which was a largely social LS) while doing something with an event LS. So, FFXIV has made progress in LS functionality at least in this one aspect. Now we just need events so there are reasons for event LSes.

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Well said, this is one of the resons why I made this topic, for the players that need/want this not for those who can find a silly work-around and call it fixed.

Another bump before bed.

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An option to show last login time/date of members.

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I don't want that feature at all. Noone should be able to observe my login behavior besides SE in this case.
Rest sounds nice though =)

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Originally Posted by Joe_Cool

This can be done on the Linkshells website instead.

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i would love for it to be on lodestone

Just a point about your offline messages idea. Someone mentioned that it wasn't necessary. I'm inclined to agree only because if this game had a proper mail system, it'd be a non-issue since that's what a mail system allows one to do (and not just to LS people but to anyone). It would be redundant at that point to have it in the LS also. Otherwise everything you've mentioned is sensible.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

Thats a personal opinion

The social list I use for friends that are not in my LS and friends that I added prior to them joining my LS. In XI I had to constantly sort through my friend's list because the 100-200(can't remember how much cap was) was constantly full. I make ALOT of friends when I play games like these and I should NOT have to use my social list to tell if my Linkshell members are online. It makes no since, why even have a Linkshell list if your gonna add everyone to your social?

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yes its all opinionated,
30 ls chats vs one social list(cap is 200)
There is a delete function; therfore, if someone has not spoken to you in forever you can remove them from list.
if you need 200 or more then you may have an issue with depenecy.
If you add all your friends in game you should have <200 with current server population.
If you need more then one Ls, You have to ask yourself why does my other Ls cannot meet my needs?
If you need/discard another friend can you add/remove another person to social list ? yes and remotely add/remove as well.

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Originally Posted by Rumo

I don't want that feature at all. Noone should be able to observe my login behavior besides SE in this case.
Rest sounds nice though =)

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Yea that one came from the old thread I brought over from site suggestions section, i just copied all suggestions and added them to this thread to pick up where it left off.

I don't mind it but its not needed.

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Originally Posted by MerlinOmniking

yes its all opinionated,
30 ls chats vs one social list(cap is 200)
There is a delete function; therfore, if someone has not spoken to you in forever you can remove them from list.
if you need 200 or more then you may have an issue with depenecy.
If you add all your friends in game you should have <200 with current server population.
If you need more then one Ls, You have to ask yourself why does my other Ls cannot meet my needs?
If you need/discard another friend can you add/remove another person to social list ? yes and remotely add/remove as well.

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There is still NO point in having to work-around a feature that should have been in the game already therefor I stick by my suggestions and if you object then so be it but please don't come in my thread suggesting that we all use alternative means instead of pushing for what belongs in the game.

Because it works for YOU does not mean it will work for everyone else.

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Originally Posted by AngryNixon

Just a point about your offline messages idea. Someone mentioned that it wasn't necessary. I'm inclined to agree only because if this game had a proper mail system, it'd be a non-issue since that's what a mail system allows one to do (and not just to LS people but to anyone). It would be redundant at that point to have it in the LS also. Otherwise everything you've mentioned is sensible.

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So if you had that, if you was going away for a month you'd have to send a message to everyone in your ls informing them you wont be online? Rather than just typing it once then if they like "where is Angry Nixon!?" they can just check your message.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

As I have stated many times before since launch, we need better Linkshell options. My main issue is rebuilding the LS I created on September 22 to its former glory but I cannot do so with 19 of my 27 members being inactive cluttering up my LS. So here are a few LS options I believe should be worked on.

• Linkshell message.
  
• Leader controls to Demote/Promote/Remove linkshell members remotely. (INCLUDES offline members)
  
• A way to show/hide offline members or change it so online members show up first.
  
• Being able to select a color pallette to change LS emblems to desired color combo.
  
• The ability to invite members of the LS to a group without having to use to the group search funtion OR social list.
  
• The ability to pass leadership to another player in the linkshell.
  
• The ability to see what Location/Rank/Class my members are.
  
  OPTIONAL:
  
• An option to show last login time/date of members.
  
• The ability to talk to multiple LSs with out having to change my current one. (maybe by doing /l#?)
  
• Ability to leave an oflline message or note.

I will add any GOOD suggestions to the list so lets hear them!

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Edited the original post.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

[SIZE="7"]Moved thread to appropriate section[/SIZE]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l-Improvements

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For those who may care or wish to follow or continue discussion on additions/removals from the list I reposted it in proper section.

Ability to put a welcome/Linkshell message. (this is for LS leader and/or 2nd highest rank from LS)
Ability to kick members even they are not online or not near you.
Ability to adjust rank (make you a pearlholder, etc.) even they are not online or not near you.

And add more feature to the linkshell so they can be more organize.

added my 2 cents on your moved one. :)