Strongest class/job lore wise?

The war of the magi came as a result of Allagan Summoners consuming Aether into their body and transforming into Primals. From that Summoners believed they were gods incarnate and tried to take over the Allagan empire which was the start of the war of the magi. The Allagan empire ordered those priacticing the Summoner Arts to be killed and afterwards only a few Summoners were left and the art died out. Lorewise the Summoner would pawn every job.

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

The Calamity you're talking about was brought about by the Elementals after the War of the Magi threatened the consumption of their aether and their very existence. They brought forth the Elemental of Nihility who in turn ended the Amdapori outright and flooded Eorzea.

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Oh Thanks for the clarification. I really think the War of the Magi could be explored better in the game.

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Originally Posted by Bhearil

Monk story stuff.

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That, a Monk with all 14 chakras open is by far exceeding human limits.
I've seen all job quests up to 50 and monk to 60 and must say they really make you feel ridiculously powerfuln with the 7th chakra in ARR and reaching godmode at lvl 60 with 14 chakras.
Your wounds heal at a insane rate and you start hitting like a wrecking ball.

Bias aside, Dragoons are specialized to kill dragons only. Their spiky armor is meant to dig deep through the scales of a dragon, so when a Dragoon dives on top of a Dragon's back, they aren't just shrugged off with a single barrel roll. At any rate, they're mainly specialized against one type of foe only and spend the majority of their training against killing dragons. Even in the Lv52 quest, one high ranking DRG is astounded at how you fight because the way the WoL fights as a DRG is different from other DRGs (probably a subtle reference at our Lancer skills which are Gridanian in nature, not Ishgardian, and possibly our Marauder and Pugilist skills which are needed to unlock DRG). tl;dr DRG are extremely powerful, but only against Dragons which they spend their lives training for, and not really any other type of creature.

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Originally Posted by VisRalis

*Looks at Louisoix*
hmm... >_> *Looks at Flames of Truth*

Yeah. I think his class (CNJ? THM?) kinda sets the standard Lore wise.
I mean, look at what he's done!!

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Final Coil spoilers:

Actually, Louisoix's class at that point was literally Primal (specifically, Phoenix). Thousands of Eorzeans had channeled aether from the land into 12 stones, each bearing one of the symbols of the Twelve, and from there, Louisoix channeled that energy to the Carteau Flats. He told everyone to pray for a reborn Eorzea, one that was no longer facing the Garlean threat. When he failed to use that energy to contain Bahamut (the mini-Dalamud with the giant symbols of the Twelve surrounding it, which Bahamut broke apart like paper), he lost control of that energy. Since everyone on the battlefield had their attentions, hopes, and dreams focused tightly on their commander, Louisoix, they all unknowingly channeled all of that aether that was created by wishes for a realm reborn into Louisoix, causing him to completely transform into a Primal relating to rebirth. Then he tears Bahamut apart as seen in the cutscene, and it's Bahamut's death (and the crashing of what's left of Dalamud) that devastates the land and causes the Calamity, not Bahamut himself. And then Louisoix tries to release the aether that is now his body back into the land, but.......

So, yeah, his class before that cutscene is totally irrelevant.



When you say "strongest class," it depends on how you are measuring strength. Strongest in a 1v1 fight? In my opinion, it's probably the Warrior of Light as an Azure Dragoon (not just any old Ishgardian Dragoon). It doesn't matter what a WHM, BLM, or SMN can do, lore-wise, DRGs are fast.

Strongest in terms of destroying the world? DRG, NIN, PLD, WAR, DRK, MNK, and BRD would have a really slow time of it, given the limited scope of their powers. WHM, BLM, and SMN all have the tools at hand to devastate the world, as others have said. It's hard to qualify the scope of SMN due to the lack of information about past summoners. WHMs can destroy the world and heal themselves while they do it, but BLMs can draw upon the void and possibly summon voidsent (as far as lore is concerned). I'd think WHMs could cause permanent, long-term harm faster than BLMs by draining the land entirely of aether, but BLMs could cause more immediate, short-term harm by setting the world on fire.

And then there's MCHs. They can invent stuff. They have the power to make lasting permanent changes of a positive nature upon the world, something most of the other classes (even WHM) can't do on a worldwide scale, lorewise. Just look at how airships changed everything. They've also used inventions to pierce the defenses of Primals and dragons, something no one else could do. And then there's destructive power - I'd think Allagan engineers designed Ultima and Omega, and those are quite devastating creations. The potential for MCH, for creation and destruction, is definitely (in my opinion) the greatest, but their changes are the slowest to create (Invent has like, a cast time of two years, and don't get me started on the cooldown...). That doesn't mean they're any good in a fight though.


I don't know enough about ASTs to comment on them.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

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This is only partically true, since these things only matter if you're opponent is in or close to the same tier your're in. For example, Tony Stark's Hulk Busters are specifically designed to last against the Hulk(for a while anyway),so hes at a disadvantage in it against someone like Ms. Marvel, who would just fly circles around him and react way faster than he can in it. But she's in or close to the same tier he's in. Tony Stark in Hulk Buster should have no problems taking out Street level opponents like Captain America, Daredevil, or even Spiderman, who won't make a dent on him.

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Originally Posted by Akiza

The war of the magi came as a result of Allagan Summoners consuming Aether into their body and transforming into Primals. From that Summoners believed they were gods incarnate and tried to take over the Allagan empire which was the start of the war of the magi. The Allagan empire ordered those priacticing the Summoner Arts to be killed and afterwards only a few Summoners were left and the art died out. Lorewise the Summoner would pawn every job.

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Was this mentioned in the job quests? :o I must've missed it

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Originally Posted by waifugenerator

Was this mentioned in the job quests? :o I must've missed it

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Its in the lvl 54 Summoner where Y'mhtira explains why summoning is a lost art.

Well its pretty obvious the big three are BLM, WHM and Summoner yet those jobs dangerous to use as well, there is a cost just like DRK, WAR and Dragoon for their power.

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Originally Posted by Akiza

The war of the magi came as a result of Allagan Summoners consuming Aether into their body and transforming into Primals. From that Summoners believed they were gods incarnate and tried to take over the Allagan empire which was the start of the war of the magi. The Allagan empire ordered those practicing the Summoner Arts to be killed and afterwards only a few Summoners were left and the art died out.

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You are entirely misrepresenting that explanation. The Summoners weren't even around for the War of the Magi. The War of the Magi was fought between the nations of Mhach, Amdapor, and Nym and their militaries which consisted of Scholars, White Mages, and Black Mages, respectively. What Y'mhitra explains is that there were evil Summoners who misused their power and used it to rule over other people instead of to put down primals and defend the realm. This led to a collective bias against Summoners, even the good ones, as everyone came to assume if one could summon, they were going to use it to rule others. Then came the summoner hunts (which sound like witch hunts and probably were much the same). That's what Y'mhitra tells you.

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Originally Posted by Akiza

The war of the magi came as a result of Allagan Summoners consuming Aether into their body and transforming into Primals. From that Summoners believed they were gods incarnate and tried to take over the Allagan empire which was the start of the war of the magi. The Allagan empire ordered those priacticing the Summoner Arts to be killed and afterwards only a few Summoners were left and the art died out. Lorewise the Summoner would pawn every job.

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Correct if I'm wrong. I'm new to the lore forum so I keep making some mistakes, but the Allagan empire fell one or two umbral eras before the War of the Magi. Like Wyrah said, you just mixed up the two thing.

yes it is suspected the 3rd was allagan fall and war of magi was 5th umbral

Allag ended with the Fourth Umbral Era. The War of the Magi triggered the Sixth Umbral Era.