k. I am sorry for being wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rendecrow
Gee I wonder why my stuff hasn't sold in a week *checks*
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05-09-2015, 06:31 AMElusana_Celah
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05-09-2015, 09:18 AMInstrumentalitylolQuote:
Originally Posted by Rendecrow
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05-09-2015, 10:57 AMKukajoo
behemoth is a pretty large server so it's not too surprising, but i share your frustration. those darn undercutters but there's not really much you can do about it but roll with the blows
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05-09-2015, 12:58 PMYumi_umi
I've noticed tht since its like 1 month till expac things r starting to sell more slowly probs due to ppl taking a break, saving up etc.
Should have known this would happen :( lol
Spent a few hundreds making some artisan tools just to see that barely anyone is buying them and the ones that r for sale r slowly dipping into 500k per HQ.
Undercutters r getting so desperate to sell it before expac :/
I compare those prices to like 3 weeks ago and it'd sell for 1.3-1.6 mill gil. I look at other items and damnnnnnn they r starting to share the same sell history lol.
Only thing that still sells decently
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05-09-2015, 01:27 PMPurrfectstormLike FFXI? No. Have to play the "guess the price an item is listed at 100k, or 10k, or 1 gil at a time" game. Then you have the 1-of items that someone priced at 1 million gil just to troll and how many buyers will waste time bidding on the item thinking "this used to be 100k, ok well maybe it's 150k now, nope, maybe 200k, nope, 300? still nope?! 400k? WTF!" I think you get the point. I actually want this game to be fun not this nonsense!Quote:
Originally Posted by dayspring83
The funny thing is that wealth is relative so who CARES if items aren't worth much? That means your money will actually purchase more of them! There are some things that are static (things sold by game vendors, gear repairs, teleports, etc.) but almost all of these (with the exception of housing) is so utterly trivial you can afford them without making any real gil at all.
I agree with what some others have said here about things being "worth" what someone is willing to pay. If there is some "no-lifer" camping the market board and undercutting you every 5 seconds, then here's a thought: "Let them sell their item first!" But OH NO, that is letting the other person "win" LOL And that's the problem, there's too much ego on the line. Take the ego out of the equation and look at all your transactions as just business. If you're not getting what you want for an item, don't list it. If you have to sell at a loss, don't gather or make it (this is in the "uh DUH" category but for some reason still needs to be said...)
If you still can't sell your item after the other person has sold theirs (or they list more items below you) then the supply for that market is saturated. It's not the undercutter's fault LOL That's absurd. People don't buy your item for the price you want because the real value of the item is less than the value you think it has.
I make 1m PER DAY in 10-20 min. My advice? Just find your niche. With so many players playing, it might seem like that's not possible but I promise you that it is. Even 4-star, all Lucis/Artisan gear crafters like me overpay for things all the time because of being in a rush, laziness, just don't feel like making it, or whatever. But if you're competing for something with a lot of other people, you might want to think about how easy/efficient that item is to get for people in the first place.
I'll give you an example: Grade 3 Thanalan Soil. For a long time I was gathering this. On my server, it would sell for 10-20k and I'd get 9 Water Clusters every time too. A nice little profit. The best thing is, the demand for this is very high. But now it's not even worth the time to teleport to W. Thanalan to go get it. The reason? It's not worth spending 3 min to make 30k when you can make 10x that in the same amount of time. So you have people who could theoretically gather or craft their own stuff, but it's not worth their time. That's one market: the people for which doing it themselves would be too inefficient/tedious.
On the other hand, you have people making high end Artisan stuff (which by now tons of people can make). The appeal is big profits but the problem is that everyone wants a piece. We're also at the end of a patch cycle so not only can more people add to the supply but their are less people playing and therefore less demand. Relax, these sorts of things go in spells and every market has ups and downs. I promise you there are items that will be worth a FORTUNE in 3.0. If I had to guess, I'd say level 50 mats (for leveling crafting classes). So don't rush to sell your cobalt ingots/plates/etc. :)
Anyway, I hear the frustration with the market but I promise if you check a couple times per day, you'll be fine. As another person said, as long as some things are selling, don't worry too much. You don't have to sell everything every day. But you know what? Your desire to do so is fine. Whatever. But if you're changing your prices because somebody has undercut you, know what that makes you? An UNDERCUTTER! LOL We're ALL undercutters. That person who keeps undercutting you is probably just as annoyed that you keep undercutting them!
Oh and one more thing: I buy and sell irl so I know all about this sort of stuff, things like finding your niche, supply and demand, looking for opportunities, thinking about trends, etc. Predicting markets is not terribly hard (hint: it's not in animal skins or bat wings, although the joke's on me if I'm wrong I guess). -
05-09-2015, 01:33 PMPurrfectstorm
Oh and the people who are frantic to sell items before 3.0 just overextended and should've been more careful in the first place (although they will probably still make a profit or not lose very much anyway). The people who are most frantic are the most risky to compete with. Desperate times, desperate measures and all of that.
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05-09-2015, 05:50 PMsynestheticI see bots farming them all of the time. Probably not for RMT purposes, but there are definitely bots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yumi_umi
Like they walk an entirely safe path while stealthed (interestingly, the pathing has some randomness, so it's a bit harder to guess they're bots), then while they're all standing around in between node pops, I'll see like three of them suddenly drop stealth for no reason at the exact same time.
I find it sad that I can't really report them. I reported a guy with an intensely retarded bot farming unspoiled soil nodes for at least a month and nothing happened to him. Now that the programs they use are smarter, you can't "prove" it unless you follow them around and record them for hours (and who's going to have the time to watch that?). Then to make it worse, some people are like, "nuh-uh videos aren't proof because you can edit them."
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05-09-2015, 10:16 PMLalaRuUndercutting does not makes you rich. Maybe you can get rid of stuff fast, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrejdaTom
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05-09-2015, 10:49 PMPeachy
This happens when ---> http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e4f354761a51eb
A lot of times when action is taken against rmt the market will "crash" (its actually returning to normal) because their retainers are being removed from the market and whoever else bought gil. Two days ago they removed a few thousand accounts so the non price gougers are still around and the price drops drastically. My time in FFXI taught me that overall economy is tied to how much gil is in circulation much like irl. -
05-09-2015, 11:16 PMmelflomil
I know why my stuff haven't sold in weeks? I put max price on it and hoping an idiot will buy it XD