PSA About RMT Tell Topics

RMT is easily stopped using Guildwork's built-in filter, but "a bloo bloo bloo guildwork is teh evilz" or something.

Let's all stop fighting and start looking at these gifs of puppies in a bucket:

http://i.imgur.com/EDJ4pAe.gif http://i.imgur.com/hhioLZM.gif http://i.imgur.com/xpKq4eS.gif

http://i.imgur.com/BhUlrBm.gif http://i.imgur.com/ICuRKZd.gif http://i.imgur.com/dPMZXlH.gif

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Originally Posted by Gunspec

RMT complaint thread in disguise, I like it. The simple fact is that spamming begets spamming. RMT spam the game, people spam forums asking for RMT spam to be addressed, other people spam forums asking people to quit spamming. It's like a loud room where everyone is screaming "shut up!" at the top of their lungs. Maybe SE should revoke our speaking privileges for a while. No in game chatting, no forum conversations, just a 2-month quiet time. Might be the only way we'll get peace and quiet anymore.

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And that is why we will never have the 1000 character limit or posting limits removed.

I somewhat have to agree with the OP. People are seriously overreacting to something that amounts to a mild irritation at best. They're only sending you /tells and friend requests, but the way people go on about it a stranger visiting these forums for the first time would think the RMT is standing outside your door threatening to rape your family if you don't let them in and buy their gil. RMT is not ruining your life. They aren't preventing you from playing the game. They're just annoying. SE is doing their best considering the nature of the beast so ease off the gas a bit and take a deep breath.

If you must complain, do so in a civil manner and put them all into one big easy-to-spot (for both SE and new posters) mega thread instead of spamming the forums with a bunch of little ones that burn out in a few days and disappear into the abyss.

RMT activity actually has a very drastic impact on players, even if you chose to ignore them, they are still driving up in game inflation. Choose to stick your head in the mud all you want, but if issue never gets addressed, don't expect any sympathy when grade 1 materia are going for 10M gil a piece, and people start using the excuse, "but everyone else is" when you get banned for buying gil.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

RMT activity actually has a very drastic impact on players, even if you chose to ignore them, they are still driving up in game inflation. Choose to stick your head in the mud all you want, but if issue never gets addressed, don't expect any sympathy when grade 1 materia are going for 10M gil a piece, and people start using the excuse, "but everyone else is" when you get banned for buying gil.

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1) FFXIV's economy is actually pretty stable so far as MMOs go, even with 2 years of constant RMT presence, and it's very likely to stay that way far into the future. Godzilla is more likely to knock on your door and ask for guitar lessons than RMT are to make any appreciable impact to any server's economy. They most certainly wont be causing the kind of inflation that would cause us to see grade 1 materia worth 10m.


2) People making RMT threads never complain about the potential impact on the economy anyway. Instead they're always foaming at the mouth over /tells and friend requests because being mildly annoyed is super serious matter apparently.

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Originally Posted by Fortified

Let's all stop fighting and start looking at these gifs of puppies in a bucket:

http://i.imgur.com/EDJ4pAe.gif http://i.imgur.com/hhioLZM.gif http://i.imgur.com/xpKq4eS.gif

http://i.imgur.com/BhUlrBm.gif http://i.imgur.com/ICuRKZd.gif http://i.imgur.com/dPMZXlH.gif

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id agree if it was chocobos in a bucket... as wrong as that sounds :P

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

2) People making RMT threads never complain about the potential impact on the economy anyway. Instead they're always foaming at the mouth over /tells and friend requests because being mildly annoyed is super serious matter apparently.

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It will be a super serious matter when tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of new players unsub from Heavensward because the insane RMT spam is the first thing they see. It is super serious for existing players because they can't even use the private /tell channel to organize anything or talk in private with their friends. This has gone beyond the territory of being a mere annoyance and into the territory of something that ACTUALLY hinders gameplay.

i find it funny so many RMT complaint topics flooding forums atm which is doing exactly what they are complaining about.. everytime u open forum theres atleast 10-20 complaint topics in forums on the first 2 pages.. hope mods start taking actions aginst the flood of spamming same topics over n over instead of just commenting on 1 of those that already exists = =

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

id agree if it was chocobos in a bucket... as wrong as that sounds :P

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http://chihuahuainvita.com/wp-conten...ken-bucket.jpg

??? D:

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

It will be a super serious matter when tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of new players unsub from Heavensward because the insane RMT spam is the first thing they see. It is super serious for existing players because they can't even use the private /tell channel to organize anything or talk in private with their friends. This has gone beyond the territory of being a mere annoyance and into the territory of something that ACTUALLY hinders gameplay.

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I don't think the constant /shout spamming from RMT in beta phases / EA was enough to push people away from the game. I doubt 3 tells / invite per hours will have any more effects on players.

If they quit because of this, then they just didnt like the game in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Saseal

http://chihuahuainvita.com/wp-conten...ken-bucket.jpg

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thats why i said sounded wrong :P but thnks made me hungry lol

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

I don't think the constant /shout spamming from RMT in beta phases / EA was enough to push people away from the game. I doubt 3 tells / invite per hours will have any more effects on players.

If they quit because of this, then they just didnt like the game in the first place.

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3 /tells per hour? Lol. If it were only that many I'd have never complained about RMT in the first place. Please check the spoiler tag below for your viewing pleasure.

http://i.imgur.com/qkNTxWQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PuCI6oz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rb45o8h.jpg

Do you really think new players are going to stay to play the game if they are bombarded with /tells like in these screenshots of mine? In an oversaturated market with plenty of good games to play when they have no attachments whatsoever? No, no they won't.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

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I guess that vary depending on your server, its not so bad on moogle.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

Do you really think new players are going to stay to play the game if they are bombarded with /tells like in these screenshots of mine?

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I'll say it again, back in beta / EA the RMT spam was constant, like 3 or 4 per second in absolutely every areas in the game, we were all "new players" including me, and look we're still here almost 2 years later for the most part.

My point is, it was alot worse back then and we went through it because we like this game, if people quit FFXIV because of RMT spam, then theyre just using it as an excuse to quit on a game they didnt like because in the end, RMT impact on the game, is minimal.

All these seperate RMT posts are almost as bad as rmt tells.

There should be an RMT mega thread.

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Originally Posted by myahele

All these seperate RMT posts are almost as bad as rmt tells.

There should be an RMT mega thread.

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There is http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-RMT-situation.

But people seem to have stopped using it recently.

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Originally Posted by myahele

All these seperate RMT posts are almost as bad as rmt tells.

There should be an RMT mega thread.

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some1 called out a while ago for people to flood forums with RMT threads so i assume thats why they are doing it... honestly tho its just as bad as the thing they are complaining about

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

some1 called out a while ago for people to flood forums with RMT threads so i assume thats why they are doing it... honestly tho its just as bad as the thing they are complaining about

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And the person who did that got their threads deleted and probably got slapped with a ban.

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

I'll say it again, back in beta / EA the RMT spam was constant, like 3 or 4 per second in absolutely every areas in the game, we were all "new players" including me, and look we're still here almost 2 years later for the most part.

My point is, it was alot worse back then

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No, it wasn't worse back then. Back then you had a bunch of spammers per city shouting, but as soon as you blacklisted them, there was silence for quite a while. Nowadays they change their names all the time so blacklisting them does not have the same effect it used to, and they spam you with friend requests as well which is something they never did when the game was new, and it's the most annoying part of the spam by far. Since you're clearly on a server where RMT is not as big an issue as it is for many others, please just take our word for it. The RMT issues you hear people complaining about every day are real, and they are severe. Stop trying to discard them, please. Those RMT threads are likely not going to stop until the issue is addressed.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

And the person who did that got their threads deleted and probably got slapped with a ban.

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lets hope so.. could prevent all this rmt forum spam with 1 topic sticked to top of forum ._.

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Originally Posted by KyteStones

You voices go ignored because you people cant stop about it. Beating a dead horse I'd ignore all of you too about it.

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But, but... You have given us a response; it may not be much, but at least you have acknowledged the topic!

I'm amazed that a thread, the sole purpose of which is to act all high and mighty, telling people to deal with it and calling them babies is allowed by moderators.

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Originally Posted by Akuryu

Hopefully they'll address it by banning all the people spamming the forums. Seriously the Anti-RMT spam on the forum is just as bad as the RMT spam in-game. You aren't hurting SE by making a new topic about this every 5 mins... you are hurting other players who are trying to have discussions and use this resource. I have almost permanently switched to reddit because this **** isn't constant there.

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I'd like to point out that these are the official forums and therefore there's a better chance of the issues being addressed since a moderator can bring them up to someone who can actually do something about it. I don't think the same could be said of Reddit, so that's probably why there's far less discussion about RMT there.