Will there ever be Werewolves?

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04-25-2015, 03:33 AM
SlyTribal

I was believing this to be about enemy werewolves, not playable. Screw playable ones, maybe have a costume for a halloween event. They wouldn't be bad as common enemies with the odd NM here and there.
04-25-2015, 03:56 AM
KyteStones

what is this? Twilight?
04-25-2015, 04:09 AM
Balipu

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Originally Posted by KyteStones

what is this? Twilight?

I just love it that people immediately say Twilight when werewolves or vampires are mentioned. Don't worry. We don't want to ruin the game. When educated people say vampire, or werewolf they/we mean the scary creatures appearing in gothic dark fantasy stories. Yoshie-P did mention that the story of Heavensward will be gothic dark fantasy.

Rest assured any story can be done well and if I am going to trust any game developer with it, it will be SE.
04-25-2015, 04:21 AM
KyteStones

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Originally Posted by Balipu

I just love it that people immediately say Twilight when werewolves or vampires are mentioned. Don't worry. We don't want to ruin the game. When educated people say vampire, or werewolf they/we mean the scary creatures appearing in gothic dark fantasy stories. Yoshie-P did mention that the story of Heavensward will be gothic dark fantasy.

Rest assured any story can be done well and if I am going to trust any game developer with it, it will be SE.

The problem with the whole vampires and werewolf thing is that today's society on the depicted picture of what these creatures should act and look like are far beyond what they used to be which is a problem. Vampires and werewolves used to be scary, now they are nothing but a mere fan service to someones sick and twisted fantasies. My opinion is they have no place here in FF, and they have no place in today's times.

The time will come when they are as they should be again, but probably not in my lifetime.
04-25-2015, 04:49 AM
Balipu

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Originally Posted by KyteStones

The problem with the whole vampires and werewolf thing is that today's society on the depicted picture of what these creatures should act and look like are far beyond what they used to be which is a problem. Vampires and werewolves used to be scary, now they are nothing but a mere fan service to someones sick and twisted fantasies. My opinion is they have no place here in FF, and they have no place in today's times.

The time will come when they are as they should be again, but probably not in my lifetime.

An understandable fear that many share. Still, you shouldn't lose hope. I'm sure yoshie and co could make vamps and wolves real scary beasts again. And if not? Well I still have my novel waiting in the inbox of a publishing company.
04-25-2015, 05:00 AM
SlyTribal

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Originally Posted by KyteStones

The problem with the whole vampires and werewolf thing is that today's society on the depicted picture of what these creatures should act and look like are far beyond what they used to be which is a problem. Vampires and werewolves used to be scary, now they are nothing but a mere fan service to someones sick and twisted fantasies. My opinion is they have no place here in FF, and they have no place in today's times.

The time will come when they are as they should be again, but probably not in my lifetime.

They could always just make Vampires and Were'wolves' like they did in FFXI, which had nothing at all to do with Twilight. Vampires were designed with fear essence, and the Gnoles were designed to be real beasts.
04-25-2015, 05:10 AM
Werewolf

http://i46.tinypic.com/2mzxe10.png

There was a whole town of werewolves in Final Fantasy V as well.

I approve this thread! ^..^
04-25-2015, 04:03 PM
Adire

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Originally Posted by KyteStones

what is this? Twilight?

The creatures in Twilight are not werewolves and vampires. The "vampires" sparkle, enough said there, and the "werewolves" are more akin to the skinwalker legend than they are to werewolf legend.

If you associate them with the non-embarrassing, completely different takes on them such as in World of Darkness lore (no, not the raid), that's a you problem.
04-25-2015, 04:20 PM
WyrahFhurrst

They were really more Loup Garou than skinwalker, really. The shape-shifting into wolves (and wolves only) at will is the giveaway.

All the same, a shapeshifter class/job would be cool. Like stances, or the Paladin Oaths, but for dps and giving a distinct visual difference.
04-25-2015, 04:52 PM
Adire

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

snip.

http://www.werewolves.com/le-loup-garou/

I find them to be much more like skinwalkers than Loup Garou, at least this take on them. The creatures in Twilight transform into a full wolf, unlike the hybrid creature noted in the legends of Loup Garou and werewolves. The cause of their ability to transform is more akin to skinwalker legend as well. The ability is shared among the members of the native american tribe in Twilight for an unknown reason, not taken on as an individual curse for each member's doings, iirc.

Regardless, the "werewolves" in Twilight are not actually werewolves and neither them or the "vampires" should automatically be associated with everything like Kyte was doing.

Legends were around long before Twilight, as were many other takes on vampires and werewolves, such as WoD. It doesn't do them justice to say that all implementations of them after Twilight must be trying to bring about a repeat of Twilight.
04-25-2015, 04:55 PM
Dualblade

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Originally Posted by KyteStones

what is this? Twilight?

Watch the last episode of Hellsing Ultimate, that should cure your ailment.
04-25-2015, 09:49 PM
Balipu

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

They were really more Loup Garou than skinwalker, really. The shape-shifting into wolves (and wolves only) at will is the giveaway.

All the same, a shapeshifter class/job would be cool. Like stances, or the Paladin Oaths, but for dps and giving a distinct visual difference.

To be fair shapeshifter classes like feral druid in wow are never that popular since they hide your hard earned gear. Luckily for vampires, they dont share this problem.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

Watch the last episode of Hellsing Ultimate, that should cure your ailment.

Pretty much all episodes of Hellsing Ultimate should be mandatory for everyone. It's time to educate you on how a real vampire does battle.
04-26-2015, 05:18 AM
Laughlyn

Bring Back "Lone Wolf" from FF5 !
04-26-2015, 05:28 AM
Lilyarel

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Originally Posted by KyteStones

what is this? Twilight?

So are werewolves and vampires are automatically associated with Twilight now?
Also, you want Werewolves to be scary again? Play Bloodborne. It goes back to the roots of Werewolves or at least makes them monsters again.
04-26-2015, 06:10 AM
DarkkenMoneybags

I like the idea of werewolves being in XIV. I feel the best direction for introducing such a famed mythology creature would be through the storyline or very, very, long side quest. This is also were we can see a job like "Shapeshifter (morpher)" come in the mix as well.
04-26-2015, 07:12 AM
SlyTribal

Oh god, now shapeshifter jobs? That's just horrible for an FF game like this. This isn't WoW, lets keep it FF.
04-26-2015, 08:30 AM
Tannlore

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Originally Posted by Laughlyn

Bring Back "Lone Wolf" from FF5 !

Don't forget FF6 too!

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Originally Posted by SlyTribal

Oh god, now shapeshifter jobs? That's just horrible for an FF game like this. This isn't WoW, lets keep it FF.

Not technically a werewolf, but a wolfman:

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Lone_Wolf_the_Pickpocket

Quite Final Fantasy I think.
04-26-2015, 08:32 AM
Spy

<.< Personally I'd love a shapeshifter class WoW's the only mmo I know that does it, and Druid has been my all-time favorite mmo class....but I know it'd just need to fit with lore. But that's just me.
04-26-2015, 09:22 AM
SlyTribal

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Originally Posted by Tannlore

Not technically a werewolf, but a wolfman:

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/L...the_Pickpocket

Quite Final Fantasy I think.

I was talking about the Shapeshifter class they were mentioning. I posted before about the use of Werewolves in other FF games, mostly the Gnoles that acted as such in XI. I just would hate them being playable, rather them be enemies.
04-26-2015, 04:21 PM
myahele

When they were in the process of creating a new race, a warewolf was considered:
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/umadori07...7/c75087f8.jpg

Here are some more concept art for the other races they were planning, including viera:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/umadori0726/.../44459427.html
04-27-2015, 04:41 AM
Werewolf

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Originally Posted by myahele

When they were in the process of creating a new race, a warewolf was considered:
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/umadori07...7/c75087f8.jpg

Here are some more concept art for the other races they were planning, including viera:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/umadori0726/.../44459427.html

That looks awesome, I hope they do consider them again someday ;_;
04-27-2015, 06:46 AM
Spy

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Originally Posted by myahele

When they were in the process of creating a new race, a warewolf was considered:
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/umadori07...7/c75087f8.jpg

Here are some more concept art for the other races they were planning, including viera:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/umadori0726/.../44459427.html

http://bushwickdaily.wpengine.netdna...8366366616.gif

Those would have been so FRIKKIN awesome! And the concept art is so amazah!
04-27-2015, 07:04 AM
Tanama

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Originally Posted by myahele

When they were in the process of creating a new race, a warewolf was considered:
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/umadori07...7/c75087f8.jpg

Here are some more concept art for the other races they were planning, including viera:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/umadori0726/.../44459427.html

That would have been so cool! That or the Viera.
04-27-2015, 07:33 AM
OMEGA_HACK

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Originally Posted by Lilyarel

Weredinosaurs.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...la-d6w26uu.png

http://th08.deviantart.net/fs8/PRE/i..._Stonegate.jpg

No thanks. lol

On the note of Gnoles in XI, they were wolves that would transform into beastmen-like wolves (they go from all fours to standing erect; and they also had a leader, his name was Alpha Gnole Anders who would iirc attack San d'Oria [S] if you didn't protect the outpost things. So they were capable of higher intellectual thought (they created battle plans)...I even want to say the leader said random things while he was fighting...could be wrong though...I hated that boss and his Plenilune Embrace...

EDIT: Also looked up a bit more information on their background:

"It was the Shadow Lord himself that first unleashed these fearsome wolfmen upon the continent of Quon. Though gnoles are able to speak the common tongue, albeit in broken form, they have no unique customs or culture of their own. Never taking up weaponry, these ferocious beasts rely solely upon tooth and claw guided by animalistic savagery to render their enemies bloodied and lifeless heaps. Some have gone so far as to speculate that the gnoles are the former vikings of the northlands, their bodies controlled by dark sorcery. At night these ferocious beasts grow stronger, automatically regenerating their health. Nevertheless, they are hunted by brave adventurers at all hours, in order to obtain the gnole's coveted claw, which can be worth up to 10,000 gil if used in the right situations."

So created by the Shadow Lord, sounds like they never were men but rather a creation of beast of higher intellect. That being said Werewolves or Gnoles in XIV would be fun...give us the fabled West Shroud, SE, and put them there.

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