Collision detection: Envirnoment and Monsters

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

...bring back player to enemy collision. It makes sense that we should have it. Running through mobs is just... not immersive at all.

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To a certain extent that collision exist but shouldn't hinder the player. It would stop you in your tracks but you should still be able to walk/run through(as to say your pushing it out of the way, unless its a immovable object). FFXI perfected this and it's a dated system, why can't FFXIV be the high-standard of these codes programable into the 'best MMORPG' every made by SE. State-of-the-art technology ppl, show it to us! O_o

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Originally Posted by Arcell

I don't really know if we need monster collision detection back. I mean some areas are narrow and the monsters in it would obstruct your path, sometimes making it impossible to pass.

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God forbid SE puts a challenge in someones path.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

God forbid SE puts a challenge in someones path.

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I like this use of metaphor.

An un-passable wall with claws and a jagged-tooth skull of death.

PLEEeeeAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEE add this in 2.0

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Originally Posted by Rokien

PLEEeeeAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEE add this in 2.0

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So instead of making your own threads, you resort to bumping old ones...?

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

having too realistic collision detections hinders more then anything. Like player to player, ppl go afk in the wrong places. doorways, hallways. Some do it on purpose and make a wall of players. DCUO is having this issue with protesters holding ppl hostage. Moster CD will suck worst. Imagine running from aggro and there are a group of goats in the way. And you trip up on them and die. This can be time consuming and frustrating.


Also how realistic is 12 hour days? Or the fact we don't age, or jump or swim or sleep or go to the bathroom.

>.>

If you want a realitic game play two worlds 2 and go shoot rhino with a bow and arrow. And cheeta and babboons. These are very realistic stuff also.

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Also, if you're going to make silly posts, at least learn from the masters like this one!

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Originally Posted by Rau

So instead of making your own threads, you resort to bumping old ones...?



Also, if you're going to make silly posts, at least learn from the masters like this one!

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Or you could just make fun of Rokien, like that's so damn original.

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Originally Posted by Rau

So instead of making your own threads, you resort to bumping old ones...?


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Ok, really, REALLY? Does any of that have to deal with the topic at hand? no, hell, it's not even my topic, so discuss it and not me.

Hello,

We're all anticipating 2.0 and supporting its features making suggestions. Calling each other out in threads for breaking the rules, however, is never recommended. Please use the Report function if you believe there is a violation instead of potentially starting an argument. Thank you!

~GM Baudle

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Ok, really, REALLY? Does any of that have to deal with the topic at hand? no, hell, it's not even my topic, so discuss it and not me.

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"Please do not make a simple post for the purpose of bumping a thread"

It's one of the rules. I think this is one of the reasons people hate on you so much.

edit: GM posting while I'm typing x.x

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Originally Posted by ToxicFox

"Please do not make a simple post for the purpose of bumping a thread"

It's one of the rules. I think this is one of the reasons people hate on you so much.

edit: GM posting while I'm typing x.x

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To bad I didn't

Insults aside, collision detection can be done right in the way that player to player collision is disabled in cities and other non battle areas and have player to monster collision always enabled. If I remember right, FFXIV at launch had the exact same collision detection that FFXI used when I still played that game, you could pass through players and monsters after a short while thus the issue of creating human walls never arose.

I really understand the argument of other players stopping you on purpose but: EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE IS THE SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD!!


..ahem what I'm trying to hint here is that it's never an issue in this game. And even in XI it never stopped you it just hindered you. Nothing is as black and white as forums would have you believe.

This is not even a gameplay thing but what I find really depressing is those fences that you can walk through.
To me it always feels like I'm playing a cheap indie game and especially knowing that they used to work is disheartening.

They could have just tweaked the shape of collision box so that it doesn't stop you but bumps you to the side but they went with the "not improving-cutting off" route that just shows lack of ambition.

Btw collision models are incredibly lo-poly and super easy to edit. But I guess they didn't want to risk it since they don't have a test server or unstuck button for these things.

Bring it.. back damnit.

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Originally Posted by Seif

This is not even a gameplay thing but what I find really depressing is those fences that you can walk through.
To me it always feels like I'm playing a cheap indie game and especially knowing that they used to work is disheartening.

They could have just tweaked the shape of collision box so that it doesn't stop you but bumps you to the side but they went with the "not improving-cutting off" route that just shows lack of ambition.

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And I thought I was the only one. lol
What's wrong with walking against someone and after maybe 2 sec you can pass through? It would give people an incentive to not run through each other. I still run past people when I'm on my chocobo, not through them. It just doesn't feel right.