Try 89-100 DPS ALT DERPING is real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyrinn
WOD & the Tank LB3
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04-08-2015, 04:45 AMAnimarelic
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04-08-2015, 06:57 AMKrr
god forbid we have to use a non-dps limit break to recover from a mistake, that's not skillful adaptive play or anything, OBEY THE ENCOUNTER SCRIPT OR WIPE SCRUB [takes a furious crap down a dragoon's throat while laughing at him from my 123 paladin rotation]
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04-08-2015, 07:05 AMCrystalRainbow
Just DPS correctly and it's an non issue.
Tank LB is a waste of time, If Healer and DPS are doing there job. -
04-08-2015, 07:08 AMAnimarelicIf by chance you ARE referring to me, I actually don't tank WOD I play SCH and DPS that I know the rotation of so yeah...Quote:
Originally Posted by Krr
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04-08-2015, 07:08 AMCrystalRainbow
Let's see here:
Option 1: Tank LB, save raid, takes a slight bit longer to complete the fight,
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Option 2: Save LB, everyone dies and have to start over.
Tough choice there, I vote for getting the hell out of that fight. Go Tank LB!!
Option 3: Kill everything don't get stacks, Don't need LB for any part of WOD so anyone can use it. -
04-08-2015, 07:11 AMAnimarelicFunny Option 1 NEVER Works for my groups... Option 2 happens natrually and Option 3 is becoming as rare as EX primal mount Drops.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow
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04-08-2015, 07:31 AMSeoulstar
If the tank LB determines if we wipe or kill the boss. I'm all for the tank using the LB..besides. I like castles.
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04-09-2015, 02:20 AMDragonFlyyOkay there in lies the problem. A tank wouldn't need to use their LB if the DPS were doing their job. If the tank sees the benefit to using the LB and it makes the fight succeed, then use it. (This has happened multiple times in runs that I have been in.) So the tank can only control what he/she is doing. What you are saying is if the DPS is doing poorly, then everyone should just die and start over just to have the same issue happen again. That's insane. If there is a way to progress, even with sub-par DPS, then do it.Quote:
Option 3: DPS do their job, everyone goes home sooner.
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04-09-2015, 07:41 AMFynlarSo what are you saying, you'd rather just wipe than potentially win? Can you explain that sort of logic to the class?Quote:
Can we please stop trying to supplement bad DPS on the Cloud of Darkness cloud phase with the Tank's LB3?
Because I've seen multiple runs saved by tank LBs (not even just LB3, because chances are if you're in bad enough shape to need it, you probably haven't had people covering all the meteors and therefore haven't gotten the big LB boosts from doing that) -
04-09-2015, 07:55 AMLudvicStone
on the Elemental data center, during every WoD run i have done, we use melee DPS LB3 during or around the 2nd cloud phase, i say around because sometimes other alliances manage to get 3 bars before the 2nd cloud phase starts and they start building up more bars
the only time i have ever had to use tank LB3, was when WoD was new and people were messing up 2nd cloud phase because people didn't know what was happening -
04-09-2015, 09:35 AMViridianaIf the DPS didn't suck, you wouldn't be in the situation of needing tank LB to not wipe. I'd rather the bad DPS improve to be decent DPS so that the DPS can use the DPS LB and everyone can be happy. Without dying. Because you shouldn't be in a situation where using the tank LB as anything other than a joke makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fynlar
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04-09-2015, 10:21 AMFynlar
It must be nice living in a perfect world where nothing ever goes wrong.
A successful melee LB3 accounts for maybe 5 seconds or so of damage from the entire alliance. It's really quite silly to get worked up over. -
04-09-2015, 10:24 AMViridianaA few clouds getting through is "something went wrong." It's also not enough to need a tank LB. So many clouds getting through that you need the tank LB is not "something went wrong," it's "no, seriously, wtf just happened?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Fynlar
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04-09-2015, 10:46 AMElHeggunteAnd if you can salvage the situation with a tank LB, why not do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Viridiana
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04-09-2015, 10:51 AMSpookyGhost
I don't see anything wrong with tank LB3 and zerging the boss for the last Cloud set as a strategy, but I don't think I'd trust anyone in DF with that much responsibility. The main reason I've seen people wipe in every CT is that they ignore the mechanics.
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04-09-2015, 11:00 AMViridianaHave I said not to? As far as I can tell, I've only said that you shouldn't be in that situation. If you're in the situation, obviously try to make the best of it, buy why would you be in that situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElHeggunte
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04-09-2015, 11:14 AMGralnaBecause we don't live in a perfect world where everyone does what they're suppose to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Viridiana
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04-09-2015, 11:24 AMElHeggunteYou said it in your very first response and you've implied it in others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viridiana
Because as others have mentioned, shit happens. And it isn't always the fault of low DPS. It doesn't really matter why you might need to use the tank LB if using it can secure a win. If you wipe anyway, then worry about the cause.Quote:
If you're in the situation, obviously try to make the best of it, buy why would you be in that situation?
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04-09-2015, 11:29 AMViridianaHow is not killing the clouds in time not the fault of low DPS? Either the DPS are all alive and atrociously bad, or they're dead because they and/or the healers messed up. The second is more understandable, but still shouldn't be happening. If none of the DPS died and you still had to tank LB to save the raid from clouds, then most or all of those DPS players need to just start over from square one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElHeggunte