Average wait time -Forever-

lol OP so pro at photoshop /clap

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Originally Posted by YujikaM

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And this is why we can clearly see your images are cheap photoshops. Here's the thing, the timer shown in your image has a significantly higher error level potential than the rest of the picture, suggesting the rest of the image has been re-saved, but the timer was added after the first save. How are you gonna explain the timer being so ridiculously bright in the ELA? Yes, digitally altered image.

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Originally Posted by FotoForensics

What is Error Level Analysis?

Error Level Analysis (ELA) is an algorithm that evaluates the error level potential of a JPEG image. JPEG is a lossy image format; every resave degrades the picture. The amount of degradation varies based on the number of saves. The first save loses a lot, the second save loses a little more, and by the 20th save, it is probably as low quality as it will ever get.

When a picture is modified, the changed parts have a higher error level potential than the rest of the image. ELA works by saving the picture at a known quality level (like a JPEG at 95%), and then determines how much changed. Edits and splices appear as regions with more change. See the tutorial for more detail.

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You can tell they're fake because they're not the original source? Lol guy.
The uploaded image is altered with a reduced quality obviously there are errors my video displayed that already.

Edit: You mean because its 1 cluster of color where as majority of the other things aren't?
Obviously a 3d model isn't going to look as good when its transferred to pixels compared to an image thats already 2d and requires less pixels.
If you don't believe it originally looks like that take a screen shot and zoom in

Do you have short term memory loss? He scanned a lower res picture that isn't the original source LOL. Why are you still using that when its an downgraded image with alterations I already pointed out?

Its unlikely to minimize the screen and do other things? People afk allll the time how in the world is me being afk in 1 spot unbelievable. I'm standing there now lol.

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Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah

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Obviously you haven't experienced this because you fall under the list of people I pointed out earlier
You're either
-Not home long enough to even sit in a queue that long(Work/School)
-Or doing the content that majority of the players are doing.
If you've been keeping up with the updates and not revisiting older content then there is your reason why you aren't in a queue that long- Congrats you're where you should be.
People who have made their accounts more recently do not have the same Keeper of the lake queue time in something like coil turn 8.
-Newer content appears and becomes populated
-Older content has less players doing it so queues are longer
Its not hard to comprehend
I guarantee I can pull this off again Tuesday considering people wont be playing right away (Work/School) and just doing weeklies OR new content.

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Originally Posted by YujikaM

You can tell they're fake because they're not the original source? Lol guy.
The uploaded image is altered with a reduced quality obviously there are errors my video displayed that already.

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No, I can tell it's a fake because the timer is of significantly higher quality than the rest of the picture, it is a clear indication the timer was added later. You take the screenshot, you photoshop it, you save it again, the JPEG compression lowers the quality of the image, but your alterations are not hit as hard as the rest of the picture. You can't necessarily see it by looking at the image, even when zoomed in, but the ELA does see these types of details.

Summary: The timer should appear dark and blurry on ELA, but it appears bright, which it should not. This indicates the timer has been altered after the initial save.

Don't even need to get to the part how unlikely it is you have been standing on the same spot with the same windows open all that time.

http://fotoforensics.com/messages.php?challenge=1 Do some of these and you can see what I mean.

Good for your screenshots, as it doesn't matter because I can get in dungeons just fine even as DPS...

I'm sorry, I'm going to have to agree with the naysayers, I've been playing for 6 months and do a lot of duty finder for various stuff and there ain't no way anything takes that long.

I had a friend yesterday do turns 1-9 on a dps character, and for not a single turn did he wait longer than an hour for his queue. and he is on the same datacenter.

I'm also calling fake on this one.

Actually, in regards to those using FotoForensic....it appears that there's also a large possibility that it wasn't changed. I used a screenshot I had of being queued up, for anything, so I could take a screenshot of the duty box, and...well...

Here's the original screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/HLLcbV2.jpg

The only edits I did were to the chatbox (if you don't want to believe it, more power to you) in MS Paint. No Photoshop or other editting programs. It has been uploaded to imgur.com.

Here is the FotoForensic analysis of the imgur image:
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.ph...303583&fmt=ela

The Duty Status window also has the Time Expired/Average Wait Time bright. Similar to Ladon's post. His is slightly brighter in the timer area, but then again, I only have a few digits, while his has all the digits filled.

It may be because the numbers for both are subject to change, I don't know. However, the box sizes are the same on both his duty status windows and mine, in regards to the alleged edited parts.

Food for thought. I am also slightly not willing to believe that there IS such a queue, but FotoForensic isn't proof as such yet.

If you don't believe me, do it yourself. Queue up, screenshot the picture, upload it then run an analysis on it.

There is quite a significant difference actually. Original images are of different resolution so of course it shouldn't look exactly the same, but this is still suspicious.

Your image
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.ph...303583&fmt=ela

OP
http://i.imgur.com/O2gy7pf.png

As I said before, his DOES display more digits on his duty status box, whereas mine merely had a few minutes. If that affects the brightness, I do not know. The bright boxes themselves are of similar dimensions; this may be due to colour, or different gamma settings, but his chat log is also brighter, as well as his mini map and inventory. I'm partially willing to give him the benefit of doubt, as I don't see it as that significant a difference. You probably see different, but that's fine. I'm just providing a different viewpoint.

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Originally Posted by YujikaM

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Actually I have a ridiculous sleep schedule where I am online sometimes mornings - afternoons, sometimes nights into late mornings and the worst queue I ever had was for the low level dungeons around 4-5 am EST which have been about an hour to 2 hours and I said in my comment that I do a lot of various stuff including coil queues, low level dungeons as I level alts, high level dungeons, primals. I am willing to believe someone experiences 2-3 hour queues depending on what it is but 999 hours? I am sure the SE Development team is looking at their statistical data that I'm sure they have telling them what queue times are and laughing their butts off at this post lol.

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Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah

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Why do you have to be like that? I didn't insult you at all.
That would actually be pretty legit.
Ya know, them confirming this is real. If they could actually do that, that is
3 hours? I'm in a borderline 3 hour queue right now and its not even drought time yet.
How about we prevent this by having you nice people queue up for turn 8 to help me get these shoes :U

Also just because I wanted some cushion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-75_x1vqiDo

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Originally Posted by tocsin

I do appreciate the effort to prove yourself. can you send us a screenshot of your duty finder screen, so we can see your exact language options and queue?

That might go a long way to showing the truth.

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http://i.imgur.com/tYEggkt.png

I do appreciate the effort to prove yourself. can you send us a screenshot of your duty finder screen, so we can see your exact language options and queue?

That might go a long way to showing the truth.

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Originally Posted by YujikaM

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I can see that for SCoB 3... I would withdraw it's just going to be a wipe and ragequit in 1 pull anyways. Wait 3 hours for a queue, get one pull, ragequitting happens, group disbands. I am serious too. My experience with duty findering coils is exactly that.

I had a 162 mn + wait as a healer for T5 in DF ...selected languages F+E. There are people outthere that have lenghty waiting time. Is not abnormal for me to wait around 1h as average when I play on week-ends a bit off timings. I even had 45mn waiting time thicking the 3 towers (CT, ST &WoD), although for this I dont have a screenshot. Complaining though wont do much, that is how it goes, DF is as such, mind you PF is no better off timings.

People have a tendency in believing that since it does not happen to them is necesseraly meaning that nobody else is having that problem. There are queues, T3 for example, that I have yet to do, nobody queues for it at least when I am around. I tried T8, well got one group, after one wipe tank left and we left too, since I Had no luck in entering.

Elusana is right, if you wait so long and you get a rage quit, is sooo frustrating and angering that you find it hard to remain polite if any and all that you join afterwards. It happens more then you think, but again nothing to be done against this. FcoB is just a pain for the waiting time and the overall lack of engagement of people that want insta win vs those that need to learn the fight....eternal discussion without solution...such is life in FFXIV

Yet, if I queue for Shiva, Ramuh, Levi, I never or rarely have problems. I cant blame people getting annoyed at the waiting time unfortunately nothing much you can do about it.

Mei

@OP - while the queue time situation is awful indeed, I commend your internet connection. I can't stay connected 4 hours without getting at least one DC, much less more than half a day. So, kudos for that, at any rate. O_O

On another note - yeah, the queue times are horrid. No matter what I sign up for (and I do select all four languages too), AWT is "more than 30m" 9 out of every 10 times - even for expert roulette, even for WoD, even for Odin. It's just unplayable.

Op has been proven lying by multiple people,and still tries.

GG.

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Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72

Op has been proven lying by multiple people,and still tries.

GG.

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Where has he been proven lying? Because his times don't match up for screenshots that AREN'T IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER? Or the two that ARE in order and have the right time differences in local time and time expired?

FotoForensic is nice, but I already showed that it isn't a 100% assurance.

And he already has proof of at least a 3 hour queue.

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Originally Posted by YujikaM

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okay, ill take that, and I retract my earlier statement of not believing you. I apologize.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Coils? Primals? Labyrinth of the Ancients? CM? Praetorium?

I'm not sure what you're meaning.

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Aaaargh you caught me. I just had a moment of stupidity and somehow 2+2+4 made 10.