New tank perspective, my apologies to established TNKs I've met B4

If you want to be successful tank you have to take into account the group you are doing the dungeon with first check what manner of classes you got to work with if its mainly single target dps like MNK and DRG dont go pulling 20 mobs, for aggro until someone comes up with proper aggro meter you gotta keep hitting your change target button and just keep eye on the small (bad) aggro meter's on the party box also it helps to see if you lose aggro by looking at the colors on the enemy list red square means you got aggro any other color means you lost aggro, if you notice that a dps is dpsing different mob than you just adapt and switch your main target to that you can try correct them by using the mark target sign's but sometimes it does fail (some player's can't be helped) and sometimes you lose aggro simply because the dps is just so highly geared in that case just tell your dps to slow down a little or give you couple of seconds to establish little bit of aggro before they start nuking usually this isn't a problem unless its a 120+ BLM with the skill to pull quad flare its awesome damage but be ready to lose aggro if the enemies are still alive rest of tanking really comes down to yourself and how comfortable you are with it little tip mainly for PLD tanks warrior really shouldn't have any problem keep aggro with overpower as PLD flash and circle isn't enough sometimes so throw couple of Savage blades, rage of halones and Spirits Within on the mobs you aren't focusing it really helps out when you do switch to focus on those mobs don't solely rely on flash

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Originally Posted by Lokisama

If you want to be successful tank you have to take into account the group you are doing the dungeon with first check what manner of classes you got to work with if its mainly single target dps like MNK and DRG dont go pulling 20 mobs, for aggro until someone comes up with proper aggro meter you gotta keep hitting your change target button and just keep eye on the small (bad) aggro meter's on the party box also it helps to see if you lose aggro by looking at the colors on the enemy list red square means you got aggro any other color means you lost aggro, if you notice that a dps is dpsing different mob than you just adapt and switch your main target to that you can try correct them by using the mark target sign's but sometimes it does fail (some player's can't be helped) and sometimes you lose aggro simply because the dps is just so highly geared in that case just tell your dps to slow down a little or give you couple of seconds to establish little bit of aggro before they start nuking usually this isn't a problem unless its a 120+ BLM with the skill to pull quad flare its awesome damage but be ready to lose aggro if the enemies are still alive rest of tanking really comes down to yourself and how comfortable you are with it little tip mainly for PLD tanks warrior really shouldn't have any problem keep aggro with overpower as PLD flash and circle isn't enough sometimes so throw couple of Savage blades, rage of halones and Spirits Within on the mobs you aren't focusing it really helps out when you do switch to focus on those mobs don't solely rely on flash

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When you talk, consider a period in a sentence to be like taking a breath. Now try to say your post out loud without any of that.

You're right though on some points, it's just most people are going to give up before reading half of that. Biggest thing I'd have a problem with is you saying a dps "needs to be corrected" by you marking things. If you haven't marked before the pull there better be a really good reason to mark in the middle of it, and what you describe doesn't warrant that.

I have yet to see anyone point out there are 2 types of tanking and how you go about trash mobs in dungeons depends on who is with you. It sounds like OP is having trouble with his aoe tanking rotation if he prefers playing with drg and mnk and has trouble with blm and nin. Marking IS pointless if you are with a blm and a smn because they dont care. If you have 2 players who are clearly using mostly single target after the first few pulls you adjust your rotation. If you are dying faster pull less because maybe the healer is having trouble keeping up. Its always important to adjust your play style to the dps or healers in your pt.

As far as raid tanking I dont pug so I have no opinion on tank quality. We learn the fight and clear it in our own time.

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Originally Posted by Peachy

I have yet to see anyone point out there are 2 types of tanking and how you go about trash mobs in dungeons depends on who is with you. It sounds like OP is having trouble with his aoe tanking rotation if he prefers playing with drg and mnk and has trouble with blm and nin. Marking IS pointless if you are with a blm and a smn because they dont care. If you have 2 players who are clearly using mostly single target after the first few pulls you adjust your rotation. If you are dying faster pull less because maybe the healer is having trouble keeping up. Its always important to adjust your play style to the dps or healers in your pt.

As far as raid tanking I dont pug so I have no opinion on tank quality. We learn the fight and clear it in our own time.

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All jobs increase their dps output aoe'ing at 3 mobs. Then it varies a bit and becomes tp efficient to do so at a whopping...4 mobs, and 3-mob pulls generally the healer can dps so they go quick enough for the tp to not matter. So your statement about blm and smn is actually more like "every dps there is". And if you want to get really technical, SMN starts losing out dps over 4 mobs due to gimpy bane limitations.

So then to correct and reword your statement "when you have any dps and on most of the pulls in most of the dungeons out there they don't (or shouldn't) care about marks because nobody should be doing single target moves on pretty much every trash pull in every dungeon."

tl;dr: everyone should be aoe'ing most pulls; marking trash is useless.