Isn't it about time for SE to bring parity to paladins

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Originally Posted by Sokerimuro

And just to point out, Warrior has same multipliers.

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The multiplier for SwO and Defiance are the same, but the multipliers for WAR's abilities are actually a bit higher in order to compensate for having to do a two combo rotation to get the equivalent effect of the RoH combo (emnity+debuff), which means they pretty much end up being equal under proper usage/rotations.

This of course does not invalidate your argument.

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Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

The multiplier for SwO and Defiance are the same, but the multipliers for WAR's abilities is actually a bit higher in order to compensate for having to do a two combo rotation to get the equivalent effect as the RoH combo (emnity+debuff), which means they pretty much end up being equal under proper usage.

This of course does not invalidate your argument.

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If this is the case, thank you for pointing it out! I have been under the impression the multipliers are identical. Good to know.

Personally I'd like to see some sort of "DPS" combo. Something that extends off of Riot Blade.

Warriors are more fun to play and master because they have more to bring to the table than a simple enmity generating combo. It would be nice when I'm off-tanking if I had something to do besides either Sword Oath enmity combo and hope I don't rip threat, or Riot Blade + Stoneskin the main tank every few seconds.

Kind of an odd discussion, considering how good paladin's are defensively at the moment, but I will play along.

1) Sword and shield oath off the GCD: Ya this really would just be a QoL thing, but either the mana cost has to stay or there needs to be a 10sec CD shared to keep it from being abused.

2) Shield bash not breaking a combo: Another QoL thing. someone above mentioned that it needed to break so that there would be a drawback, but this is not really true. The game already enforces diminishing returns on stuns used in quick succession, so I really don't see this being a problem. Plus, the paladin stun is on the GCD while the warrior stun is off the GCD. I would kill to have access to an off GCD stun with a CD on paladin. The number of times I have missed an important stun because I had to wait 2.5 seconds for my global CD to finish...... man it sucks. I would trade the paladin stun for the warrior one any day of the week. But back on topic, I could get behind the idea of it not breaking combo.

Neither one of these changes really affect a whole lot. Just some small QoL things. I'm game

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Originally Posted by Tsurayu

Personally I'd like to see some sort of "DPS" combo. Something that extends off of Riot Blade.

Warriors are more fun to play and master because they have more to bring to the table than a simple enmity generating combo. It would be nice when I'm off-tanking if I had something to do besides either Sword Oath enmity combo and hope I don't rip threat, or Riot Blade + Stoneskin the main tank every few seconds.

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It is expected that PLD will get a finishing move for their riot blade combo in 3.0. So hopefully this will be addressed. I too find PLD a bit boring compared to its tanking counterpart, but the class is really, REALLY good right now. That defensive CD set is so damn good, our DPS needs to be significantly lower than WAR to balance it.