1.18b patch notes are up..

If they have to extend this maintenance window I'm going to flip a table.

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Originally Posted by Sorel

I respectfully disagree.

Major functionality changes and additional content are in numbered patches. Minor functionality changes are still functionality changes (something that didn't happen now does happen) and get a lettered patch. Bug fixes are put into non-numbered, non-lettered updates.

I don't see how functionality change is a waste of a patch. Especially when that functionality change affects the frequency of repairs, and thus the amount of gil a player has to spend on upkeep of their equipment ... no matter how minor that may be.

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it was a wasted patch because something this small didn't need to have a patch by itself. There weren't even a lot of bug fixes. This is something that could have waited until more stuff was ready to be released/fixed. Instead, SE, AGAIN, decided to rush something and, therefore, produced a mediocre result. ZOMG GET READY FOR 1.18B! (few VERY MINOR bug fixes and a gear dmg fix that wasn't causing problems to begin with) GG SE, GG.

I thought 1.20 was supposed to be out by sept? All those things that they said would change is by sept. Which is supposed to be 1.20 no?

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Originally Posted by DGMart

I thought 1.20 was supposed to be out by sept? All those things that they said would change is by sept. Which is supposed to be 1.20 no?

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That is what I thought as well. Maybe we both shared the same dream one night. hey it could happen!!

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Originally Posted by DGMart

I thought 1.20 was supposed to be out by sept? All those things that they said would change is by sept. Which is supposed to be 1.20 no?

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Shit happens, the delay of the last update pushed the table back abit so 1.20 will probly be early/mid Oct.

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Bug Fixes
The following issues have been addressed:
A bug wherein minimap markers were not being displayed during certain levequests.

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ِAlmost loses many leves because of this... Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

what a useless patch..I mean really...this could have waited...

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And if they did that people would complain "Why don't they break off small pieces of the big patch and just release those?"

I swear you just can't please this crowd.

b patches have always been pretty small, get over it.

Good patch. I am glad they are able to implement fixes without waiting for big updates. I think thats why they are called patches, just sayin'...

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Originally Posted by Arcell

b patches have always been pretty small, get over it.

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Let's see how many words we can come up with that start with b, to represent what a b patch is.

Bad.
Boring.
Badass?

Keep the list going!

or lets not do that... lol..
Man you guys are just ridiculous. I'm convincing myself slowly that you all just bitch about everything and it's some sort of inside joke amongst the forum-mongers. Because seriously, it's 2 hours people. It's not 6 or 8, or 12, like some games would be. Go play a diff. game, vacuum your house, grab a drink, eat something, go outside for a few minutes. The thing will be done before you know it. And to all those complaining about what's in the patch: Chill out. Maybe they needed to implement those changes before they could start on something else. Maybe that bug was causing something bigger to be in jeopardy. You simply just don't know. You aren't a developer or programmer or anything of the sort. Let them fix things..

Whew... kids...

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Originally Posted by DGMart

I thought 1.20 was supposed to be out by sept? All those things that they said would change is by sept. Which is supposed to be 1.20 no?

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Their words were "end of September" if I'm remembering correctly.

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Originally Posted by camjay

Man you guys are just rediculous

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Ridiculous. As in, "The fact that there are people with higher than a fourth grade education that can't spell the word 'ridiculous' is ridiculous."

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Originally Posted by slipmac

i would much rather have a patch every other day or once a week then to wait months

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We have a winner! Of course, we'd need a better patcher.

Also RE: 1.18b - told ya so ;-)

eekiki. go fly a kite.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Their words were "end of September" if I'm remembering correctly.

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Well the plans were for Summer. Summer officially ends in late September, I believe Sept. 22-ish this year.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Well the plans were for Summer. Summer officially ends in late September, I believe Sept. 22-ish this year.

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The 29th iirc.

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Originally Posted by Balbanes

The 29th iirc.

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Ah well close enough for me, off by a week :p

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Originally Posted by Sorel

I respectfully disagree.

Major functionality changes and additional content are in numbered patches. Minor functionality changes are still functionality changes (something that didn't happen now does happen) and get a lettered patch. Bug fixes are put into non-numbered, non-lettered updates.

I don't see how functionality change is a waste of a patch. Especially when that functionality change affects the frequency of repairs, and thus the amount of gil a player has to spend on upkeep of their equipment ... no matter how minor that may be.

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The one change in this patch also could have waited until they had more to add. The one bug fix could have waited until they had more bug fixes.

Are you ok with them taking down the servers every day for 2 hrs to fix one bug, or wait several days until they can fix multiple bugs? I'm certainly not ok with daily or even bi-daily downtimes for single bug fixes or single and less important changes. If this bug fix had been a fix to an exploit it would have been ok.

Grade 1 Dark matter costs 300gil.... No one was wasting any monies on grade 1 dark mater. There are people (everyone that still has low ranks) who wear things at low rank that require GR3 and above dark matter however. And so everyone knows, dieing and returning with gear above your rank equipped causes far more equipment damage. This is why they do this, those people wearing things above their rank that take GR3+ to repair get their gear destroyed very quickly from diening and returning.

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Originally Posted by Reika

The one change in this patch also could have waited until they had more to add. The one bug fix could have waited until they had more bug fixes.

Are you ok with them taking down the servers every day for 2 hrs to fix one bug, or wait several days until they can fix multiple bugs?

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I'm ok with this...after all there is a disclaimer that this was going to be, and these are Yoshi-P's exact words, "beta all over again" and you guys agreed to do just that. So not sure why all of you are bitching at the smallest things..

The bitching on this forum never ceases to amaze me. Seriously? It's only two hours people. Find something else to do in that time.

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Originally Posted by Aistaraina

Download is up. Took me 5 seconds flat to DL. Didn't even bother checking the size. I guess they fixed the issue where it downloaded all the previous patches as well?

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Was just about to say that. Honestly, they could do that every second day without altering any player's gaming experience. Glad they fixed some issues, could care less if it's a lettered patch or not

I cant wait for the 17th >.>

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Originally Posted by Reika

The one change in this patch also could have waited until they had more to add. The one bug fix could have waited until they had more bug fixes.

Are you ok with them taking down the servers every day for 2 hrs to fix one bug, or wait several days until they can fix multiple bugs? I'm certainly not ok with daily or even bi-daily downtimes for single bug fixes or single and less important changes. If this bug fix had been a fix to an exploit it would have been ok.

Grade 1 Dark matter costs 300gil.... No one was wasting any monies on grade 1 dark mater. There are people (everyone that still has low ranks) who wear things at low rank that require GR3 and above dark matter however. And so everyone knows, dieing and returning with gear above your rank equipped causes far more equipment damage. This is why they do this, those people wearing things above their rank that take GR3+ to repair get their gear destroyed very quickly from diening and returning.

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Are people that upset for not being able to play for 2 hours? Maybe the game is not in so bad shape after all

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Originally Posted by camjay

or lets not do that... lol..
Man you guys are just ridiculous. I'm convincing myself slowly that you all just bitch about everything and it's some sort of inside joke amongst the forum-mongers. Because seriously, it's 2 hours people. It's not 6 or 8, or 12, like some games would be. Go play a diff. game, vacuum your house, grab a drink, eat something, go outside for a few minutes. The thing will be done before you know it. And to all those complaining about what's in the patch: Chill out. Maybe they needed to implement those changes before they could start on something else. Maybe that bug was causing something bigger to be in jeopardy. You simply just don't know. You aren't a developer or programmer or anything of the sort. Let them fix things..

Whew... kids...

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i know what you mean. it wasn't long downtime and yes it could have waited, but as long as it's only once in a while i have no issues with it. if it became a weekly thing then i'd dislike it.

i just went and installed some new lighting in the kitchen and will please the wife when she gets home to see them in place and working. took a little over an hour so i even had time to eat afterwards.

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Originally Posted by northernsky

Are people that upset for not being able to play for 2 hours? Maybe the game is not in so bad shape after all

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The thing is, it was 2hr downtime for 1.18a, which had more bug fixes and more added to it. This patch has 1 death penalty alteration and 1 bug fix. Some don't believe it requires 2 hours of downtime. Maybe 30 mins, but not 2 hours, especially not for a 1 minute download (it was 1 minute for me)

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Originally Posted by Reika

The thing is, it was 2hr downtime for 1.18a, which had more bug fixes and more added to it. This patch has 1 death penalty alteration and 1 bug fix. Some don't believe it requires 2 hours of downtime. Maybe 30 mins, but not 2 hours, especially not for a 1 minute download (it was 1 minute for me)

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You don't know that...for all we know they could be doing more things to it than just what the patch notes say...the patch notes are not set in stone...stop pretending like you know what the maintenance is about.

They'll probably add a few more things to that.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

what a useless patch..I mean really...this could have waited...

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It may be useless to you, with a bunch of R20+ jobs, but for the people who still trickle into the game, it can be a big help. I doubt the maintenance is strictly for this update, and since there was going to be downtime, I see no problem with throwing in a few tweaks... particularly if it helps some part of the FFXIV population.

Not everything has to be about you, ya know. (And that's aimed not so much at the person I'm quoting, but anyone who's bothering to complain.) How cares? It helped someone.

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Originally Posted by Reika

I cant wait for the 17th >.>

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Did I mention that i cant wait for the 17th >.>

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Originally Posted by Reika

Did I mention that i cant wait for the 17th >.>

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Yes, I can't wait either...

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Originally Posted by Reika

The thing is, it was 2hr downtime for 1.18a, which had more bug fixes and more added to it. This patch has 1 death penalty alteration and 1 bug fix. Some don't believe it requires 2 hours of downtime. Maybe 30 mins, but not 2 hours, especially not for a 1 minute download (it was 1 minute for me)

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Yeah I did not see it that way, I have to agree that it's weird that it takes about the same time to implement patch 1.18 with all its content and 1.18b (regardless of download I mean). That being said, as others pointed, I have no idea about programming and whatsoever

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Well the plans were for Summer. Summer officially ends in late September, I believe Sept. 22-ish this year.

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Year after CE release

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Originally Posted by Balbanes

The 29th iirc.

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Year after SE release give or take a day or 2

Coincidence? most likely :P

"At the following time, we will be performing maintenance on FINAL FANTASY XIV to implement patch 1.18b. During this period, FINAL FANTASY XIV will be unavailable."

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Originally Posted by Reika

Did I mention that i cant wait for the 17th >.>

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What's the 17th?

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Originally Posted by Arcell

What's the 17th?

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The day I go back to school :D!

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Originally Posted by Arcell

What's the 17th?

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-Full-Version

To be quite honest with you all for a Letter patch that came 2 days after another letter patch and gear degrade change for what its worth is quite alot

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Originally Posted by Arcell

What's the 17th?

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Early Birthday bash for Keith? :o

Someone go check Horizon camp with the NPC talking,

In the interview im translating right now they talking about how the updates will have live changes to these type of NPC that gives hints to whats coming soon. maybe 1.18b has something, since they talking about 1.18a GM NPC

(still at work and can't get in till later tonight orz)

Seem like they forgot to add this in 1.18a.....

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Originally Posted by SAMINUS

... waste of the effort to even have a download

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there was no download

or it was so insignificantly small that it happened before i could look at the launcher.