What ability would you like to see added for your Job in the Expansion? (theorizing)

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Originally Posted by point09micron

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BLM already have enough rng, we don't need more.
Rng thundercloud
rng firestarter
rng mana tick from umbral ice (not really "rng" but you get my point)
server stuff : rng ability to finish your cast while moving 70% into the cast or having it cancel itself at 95% if your character sneeze
we really don't need a rng thunder on top of it

Warrior,
trait to foresight-
500 pot regen for 20sec added affected by max hp ( This way Def cd rotation for warrior will be Ib>Thrill>foresight>conv )
this will make foresight used more than it is now, tho rampart 20% mitigation is still better, we have ib and storm path so adding a hp regen will be fine

Art of the Warriors-
Storm path gives back 100% of the damage dealt, Inner beast gives back 300% of the damage dealt, Blood bath gives back 50% of the damage dealt.

and a change to holmgang. Instead of reducing hp to 1. make it 50% pls se

Here's a useful trait for DRG

Name: Indomitable spirit
Effect: No weakness applied on Raise, return with full health, magic and TP when raised

Scholar

Name:Heaven's shower-8y radius.
Effect:You and allies regen hp while inside

Name:Sacred Haven-8y radius
Effect:reduce damage by 25%

Name:Gift of grace
Effect: give 400-500mp to another player

Name:Mirror shield
Effect:Enemies that hit the shield take the SAME amount as the dealt

Name:New fairy
Effects:embrace,debuff enemies defense, raises, slow

THM
52: Mobile Cast: The next spell cast by this unit is not interrupted by moving.
54: Chain Lightning: Thunder, Thunder II and Thunder III can apply lightning damage over time to adjacent units.
56: Demi I: Deals 25% of a single target's current HP and inflict Heavy.
58: Magick and Mend III: Increase base action damage and HP restoration by 40% and allows for the stacking of a third Astral Fire or Umbral Ice.
60: Demi II: Deals 20% of all enemies within a targetted area's current HP and inflict Heavy.

BLM:
55: Comet: Deals non-specific damage with a potency of 225 to all enemies in a targetted area for 15 seconds.
60: Meteor: Deals non-specific damage with a potency of 350 to a single target and nearby enemies.

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Originally Posted by FrejyaAthenes

THM
56: Demi I: Deals 25% of a single target's current HP and inflict Heavy.
Ineffective against anything that matters.

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Fixed that for you.

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

Fixed that for you.

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Yeah nice Fix :p

I think the Demi Spell would work but maybe put a cap on it or make it immune against boss's and certain enemies.

On topic I'd like to see:

CNJ:
Lv.52 - Enhanced Esuna (Trait)
Allows Esuna to remove up to two negative status effects.

Lv.54 - Tornado
Deals wind aspected damage with a potency of 270.
Casting Time: Instant | Recast Time: 60s

Lv.56 - Enhanced Aero (Trait)
Extends the duration of Aero and Aero II by 6 seconds.

Lv.58 - Sacred Prism
Grants an Area of Effect to your next cast. Doubles MP cost and casting time.
Recast: 120s

Lv.60 - Enhanced Shroud of Saints II (Trait)
Increases refresh potency to 120.

WHM:
Lv.55 - Saving Grace
Restores HP with a potency of 600 if target's HP falls below 30%.
Duration: 60s | Recast: 60s

Lv.60 - Reraise
Applies Raise effect if target is KO'd. Target will not suffer weakness when revived. Cannot be cast on self.
Duration: 300s | Recast: 300s

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Originally Posted by Akiza

Summoner
The ability to Summon Primals
Leviathan, Ramuh and Shiva Egis

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Given that level 60 will carry 2 job abilities (one for 55 and one for 60) your chances of getting Leviabeetus and Ramen are good. Shiva is another story though, not only because there will only be 2 additional job skills in the expansion, but in FFXIV she's more related to Good King Moggle Mog XII than to the other primals (more of a myth made legend). I still don't even think she qualifies for primal status in the lore, but hopefully 2.5 answers more of these questions.

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Originally Posted by Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri

I don't mean the person being raised I mean the drg using the raise. on top of the no weakness debuff could also make it to where TP and and MP are 100% upon coming back to life.

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Oh, can bring a DRG just so our WHM can spam heals then become a wall-flower with the insta-kill wall, then have DRG raise them for Full MP and 0 enmity.

Gladiator: Goring blade, GLA does a sideways flip slamming their sword down on the opponent. Potency: 100, TP cost 90.
Combo action: riot blade. Combo potency: 270, Combo bonus: stacking vulnerability up 2% debuff on target (max stack of 5).

Essentially a gladiator counterpart to storm's eye. Stronger as it's not restricted to slashing only, but significantly more expensive both in TP and time taken to apply. Would be the gladiator combo to use when off tanking or when they have enough enmity to do other things.

An actual strong buff I can control... like a haste? Which will make a difference.

and paladin get another CC move, one that pulls the mob to PLD.

For the bard :

Ability - Army Paeon (song):
Gradually restores HP for party members within the area of effect.
(No damage reduction)

Ability - Victory March (song):
Increases Skill speed for party members within area of effect.
(No damage reduction)

Ability - Stereo Voice :
You are able to maintain two songs at once
Duration: 60s | Cast: instant | Recast: 300s


This would enhance the bard supporting role. Being able to help physical DPS and healers without having to loose on his own dps...

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Originally Posted by RiverTams

and paladin get another CC move, one that pulls the mob to PLD.

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Never going to get that Victory song, Swiftsong used to do the same thing till they nerfed it.

I have, like, no faith that SE is reading this. But if they are, I'd like a change to SMN.

Summoning an egi applies a buff on the SMN, lasting until the summon despawns. The debuff changes the DoTs and Fester's actions.

Ifrit-Egi:

Miasma, Bio and Bio II become direct-damage attacks (dealt by Ifrit-egi), instacast but with their cooldowns equivalent to their cast times. Fester applies all three DoTs instead.

Garuda-egi:

Classic Warlock Summoner play, Wind-aspected.

Titan-egi:

Various emnity-raising skills executed by Titan-egi. Fester casts Bio, Bio II and Miasma instead.

PLD:

Trait or traits: Improve oaths: Add some gimick to oaths. Maybe convert a % of damage blocked to MP during shield oath, and increase the potency of sword oath's extra auto attacks.

WAR:

A trait that makes us stack wrath to 10. and only spend 5 when using a wrath ability.

NIN:

Remove the bunny jutsu and just make it so you can't double click mudras so I can macro this shit, kthxbye.

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I'd also like to see gear with more than the usual 2 base stats 2 sub stats formula.

How about some -DMG taken, -MP cost. TP refresh, Weapons with hp/mp/tp drain.

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WHM/BLM/SMN/SCH

Debuff spells like Paralyze and blind.


AND MAKE THESE SPELLS AND ABILITIES (slow/silence/gravity/paralyze/blind WORK ON BOSSES FOR THE TWELVE'S SAKE! Getting real tired of having abilities like Feint and Shield swipe that are complete waste of space.

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Originally Posted by AscendantManes

I have, like, no faith that SE is reading this. But if they are, I'd like a change to SMN.

Summoning an egi applies a buff on the SMN, lasting until the summon despawns. The debuff changes the DoTs and Fester's actions.

Ifrit-Egi:

Miasma, Bio and Bio II become direct-damage attacks (dealt by Ifrit-egi), instacast but with their cooldowns equivalent to their cast times. Fester applies all three DoTs instead.

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I have a similar idea which I have never posted (until now; I think),

Primal Stones

Off-hands that control which Primal-Egi Summon III summons - Summon I & II will always summon the Carbuncles like /w ACN. Enkindle is now a player executed spell, the effect of which is controlled by which Primal Stone you have equipped. DoTs and other spells can be affect by the stones too. Primal Stones are acquired from your SMN Job quests.

1) A kick type move for MNK maybe akin to the DRG jump, but AoE in a circle with the MNK going from target to target
2) A Chakra type move for MNK that heals and removes 1 debuff
3) A 25-50% Counter Passive for MNK

FFV anyone, haha?

{Paladin}

Oath keeper: Change Sword oath and shield oath effect.
CD 120 sec; duration 30 sec;

Sword oath effect: Increase extra attack pot to 30. Extra attack is applied to auto attack and every offensive skill.
Shield oath effect: Increase dmg reduction slightly (+10% dmg reduction), decrease dmg done penalty (-10% dmg done penalty). Increased enmity.

{Gladiator}

+ Circle of scorn (trait) : Caster and allies touched for CoS receive a HoT with same potency of DoT.

Judgment blade : 250 pot attack (combo with fast blade). Give enemy "guilty" status. While in guilty status, enemy will receive a stack of "penance" for every action/attack/skill used for him, which increase +2% dmg received, -2% dmg done and -6% healing received. Maximum of 5 stacks. "Guilty" status has a 40 sec duration. "Penance" has a 10 sec duration. Penance duration will start over for every action done for enemy.

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Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline

Oil (Off-GCD): Places a debuff on the enemy that increases Fire Damage dealt by 10%

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someone is playing too much Dota2 with Batrider :P

I've never actually played Dota haha. FF12 had an Oil spell that worked similarly. Upon further consideration, I could see this as a ground based AoE (Doton, Flaming Arror) that when stood upon, places the Slick debuff that would increase fire damage taken by a set percentage.

DRG
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Dragon Killer (Trait): Deals 20% more damage against Dragon-type enemies. Breezing through Twintania, Nael, and Bahamut like a boss!

How about new traits/procs?...

I'd love to be able to throw a Piercing Talon and have my next Doom Spike have increased range if used on the same enemy, teleporting the DRG next to the target and striking the full distance in that line of movement at reduced TP cost instead. (Like HT->RoT, but more stylish and less often used.)

(Rest hidden to avoid rant.)

To be honest, more than any particular ability I'd like to see more mechanic-inducing traits/styles, etc. and traits cross-classable to give hybrid-ish class use a turn, at least in non-endgame open world or specialized content -- deemphasize the particular abilities but retain the way they work through other means, making ability makeup a bit more malleable. Make the other differences more inherent to their damage and generation properties instead. [Simplify the way the particular classes are made (their particular potency values per ability and precise rotations) to something that does the same due to more core concepts rather than best spreadsheet outcome, such that additional (even player-unique) abilities could be added more seamlessly while also allowing for more diversity/"specs" in Jobs and classes (Aeris, Templar and Ravene Dragoons; Sky Seer and Battlerite Monks; Evoker, Iconic and Archonic Summoners; etc. via different unique key abilities/traits, the base skill sets/traits, Xclass abilities/traits, and gear choices.]

Same idea for jobs too, of course--more flexible ability makeup around central concepts. Bards = Songs; Ninja = Ninjutsu; Monks = Chakra; DRG = Jumps/DragonSoul; BLM = Advanced dark-wheel magic access; WHM = Advanced light-wheel magic access; SCH = advanced Ley magic access; SMN = Summons; PLD = Oaths/Boon; WAR = Defiance/Wrath; etc..

Yeah... Too many new abilities in my mind, and most of them using a slightly untraditional "spec" of their respective job... for me to throw just one ability out. : (

If i could fantasize about a few.

SMN - Contagion removed from Garudas list of abilities and replaced with a new move, perhaps one that inflicts a gravity effect (nice for PVP). Contagion instead added as a Summoner ability with recast remaining the same. (Basically, because if this remains a Garuda exclusive, any new pet added after her is going to be weighed against Contagions extreme usefulness, and those new pets will probably suck in comparison)

NIN(THFGDI) - Traits
**Enhanced Ninjutsu - Increases potency of Ninjutsu spells
Raiten - Damage increased from 360 to 380
Huton - Duration increased from 70s to 80s
Suiton - Duration increased from 10s to 20s
Doton - Potency increased from 30 to 35, Duration from 24 to 30
Hyoton - Potency increased from 140 to 180.
Kaiton - Potency increased to 200
Fuma Shuriken - Potency increased to 260.

**Enhanced Shadowfang - Duration increased from 18s to 30s

NIN - Abilities:
**Evisceration - Delivers an Attack with a potency of 100
Combo Action: Shadowfang
Combo potency: 260
Combo Bonus: Increased Critical hit Rate +10%
duration: 15s

**Rudra's Storm - Delivers an Attack with the potency of 100
Combo Action: Aeolian Edge ---Combo Potency: 370
Combo Bonus: Gravity(20%) Duration: 15s

In regards to Rudra's, I imagine it like a new "Step" in our "1/2/3" combos, every job could have one, a fourth step thats More powerful/as powerful as 3, but with an added bonus. IDK, I think it could work. Adding a third step to some of our "1/2s" wouldn't be bad either. A bit more micromanaging but that makes the job a bit more involved and fun to me.

Presence of mind for BLM

SMN

- ability that can change locations my body with my pets body(like teleport).
- some heavy aoe attack with aetherflow stacks that can be used after bane.
- shiva egi , will do permafrost 15 yard range for 10sec and special skill let you get extra aetherflow stack

-90K

Finally an ability that defeats the 90K boss.

Oh and BRD is not support, it is a full time DPS with better raid utility compared to other DPS jobs.

DRG :

Give them breaths FFS. Ice breath (heavy), fire breath (DoT) and thunder breath (paralysis) are what make the dragoons fun in tactics (besides the nice range of spears and loljump ofc)
(effects in brackets would be debuffs applied by the breaths)

NIN :
only thing I can think of is a lag proof QoL : can't do twice the same mudra in a row. But it would defeat the purpose of mudras so idk.
Also maybe "Smoke Bomb" as an enmity reducer for burst opening on adds (burst, perfect dodge & smoke bomb to avoid being hammered in return and allow tank to get hate if they missed it)

BRD :
the healing song from job quests. I want that :D


and maybe WAR could enjoy an "all or nothing" ability like "trade 80% of defense for 100% more attack power" with super high CD and low duration (10ish seconds). High damages but you're very likely to die in the process. WAR only ability to avoid the MRD off-tanking by stacking every single damage buff in an insane hit ^^
Maybe that's a bit too much dps~ish, but well, that'd be cool to witness ^^

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Originally Posted by Misery1337

-90K

Finally an ability that defeats the 90K boss.

Oh and BRD is not support, it is a full time DPS with better raid utility compared to other DPS jobs.

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I'm sorry but, it is a DPS support class. Not a full on support class.

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Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline

I'm sorry but, it is a DPS support class. Not a full on support class.

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I'm sorry but that is exactly what I said? Do you even read bro?

hmmmm, assuming we'll only get 2 job abilities at 55 and 60...
mnk:
chi blast, for the love of the twelve we need chi blast and either another fist stance (either lightning for increased skill speed or water/ice that adds more attacks per round or something) or a finishing move that can be performed at 20% or lower, like a flaming uppercut or something

war:
another def boost ability, something similar to Tempered Will on PLD (called like stonewall or something), or use the chain from holmgang as a provoke and pull mobs to you

whm:
banish or dia, and refresh (but high enough cooldown so its not the only thing that's cast over and over, for those oh shhh moments)

brd:
more songs, regen-aga and attack buff, or a voice ability that allows for 2 songs at once :D

PGL/MNK

Here's sort of my prediction as to what we'll get coming from a mnk main since 2.0.

Traits

Level 52 Trait: Roaring Fist
Reduces Howling Fist cooldown to 40 seconds.

Level 56 Trait: Fourth Wind
Increases cure potency to 850.
or
Level 56 Trait: Counter
10% chance to counter an incoming physical attack.

Level 60 Trait: Enhanced Greased Lightning III
Increases damage by 9% and attack speed by 5%.


Abilities

Level 54 Class Ability: Double Lariat
GCD action that can only be used in raptor form.
Changes form to coeurl.
Delivers an attack with a potency of 80 to all nearby targets.
TP Cost: 80

Level 55 Job Ability: Chi Blast
Delivers a ranged attack with a potency of 120. Costs 130 TP.

Level 58 Class Ability: Introspection
Recast Time: 2.5s (AKA this is a GCD ability)
Restores 80 TP.

Level 60 Job Ability: Enlightenment (Lasts 10s, 5 minute cooldown)
Enhances effects of Fists actions.
Fists of Fire: Each auto-attack increases current DoTs time remaining by 1 second.
Fists of Earth: Delivers an attack with a potency of 70 every time you suffer physical damage.
Fists of Wind: Provides movement speed 1.25x the speed of sprint.

Reasoning

Roaring Fist: Steel Peak and Mythril Peak are 6 levels apart. It seems logical that Howling Fist and Roaring Fist would also be 6 levels apart with the same 20s reduction.
Fourth Wind:Second Wind is obtained at level 6, Third Wind 26 levels later at 32. Thus, Fourth Wind could also come 26 levels later at 56.
Counter: Counter is a pgl/mnk-like trait and we've seen it in multiple games. The trait may be different in terms % chance but I imagine it will be similar.
Enhanced Greased Lightning III: We received enhancements to GL at level 20 and 40, so every 20 levels with the same bonus. Extremely powerful though so we'll see.
Double Lariat: I really wanted to name this Chi Wave but it's a pgl ability so this zangief-like ability is all I could think of. pgl/mnk has probably the worse aoe dps in the game when perfect balance is not up so this should help out a lot.
Chi Blast: We still don't have an onGCD ranged attack so this seems like it would be pretty obvious unless they want it to be an oGCD high potency attack like Fuma Shuriken which could happen.
Introspection: We pretty much need this given skill speed values rising and our attack speed going up another 5% with GL IV. It is however onGCD so we lose dps by using it so it's a fair trade off.
Enlightenment: Alright so I originally wanted to have Hundred Fists here, however Hundred Fists is used in the pgl quest so it would be a pgl ability. I also don't think an ability like Hundred Fists
would show up on some random level like 54 and 58, it'd have to come at an iconic level like 70. So I thought how about a new Fists action like Fists of Lightning/Ice/Water/Astral/Umbral but I couldn't come up with any great ideas so then I thought of what this is now. I'm pretty sure we may not get this to the exact spec as I have it. I honestly wanted to have fun with it though and that's probably the only item on here that would be a wishlist item.

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Originally Posted by Misery1337

I'm sorry but that is exactly what I said? Do you even read bro?

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I missed a comma.
DPS, Support class. Yes it does make a difference lol. No need to get all CoD-speech on me.

If Dark Knight is supposed to use a great sword and the power of darkness, I wouldn't mind its counterpart, Paladin, having a little more to do with healing or light-based attacks.

Realistically speaking, we'll probably see Blizzard IV, Fire IV, and Thunder IV for THM.

I expect Fire IV to be a stronger version of Fire II and have casting Fire II give us a free Fire IV proc (just like the relation between Fire I and Fire III).

I expect Blizzard IV to be a stronger version of Blizzard II and entirely replace it.

I expect Thunder IV to be a stronger versiion of Thunder, except this one will be viable to cast (Since Thunder III doesn't have more potency than Thunder II, only 3s more in duration, making Thunder II the go to spell cast during Umbral Ice mode)

We will also most likely be getting 2 new BLM skills. I think adding an aoe burst stronger than Flare would be OP, so let's go with something like SMN's Shadow Flare, except instead of being a weak DoT, it would do a powerful 100 potency explosion in the area every 5 seconds or so.

Since BLM would also need a new spell for single target damage, I think a powerful instant cast move like Scathe would be appropriate, with either a low cd or just not as strong as fire spells, making it that extra filler spell you can use when your mana regen fails to proc on time during Umbral Ice mode.

Also, since all the new spells are essentially AoE, the new passive trait will allow BLM's to go into Astral Fire/Umbral Ice IV, granting significant damage boosts to fire spells.

For SMN's, it has been confirmed that Leviathan and Ramuh will be made into Egi's. Egi's are supposed to be reworked in 3.0 so that other Egi's are more viable in fights and everyone doesn't always use Garuda. Personally, I hate the fact that having a pet on Sic actually lowers their dps, because they're wasting GCD on using skills that are purely for utility instead of spamming their strongest skill as usual, so you have to keep a pet on Obey in order for them to reach maximum dps, and make sure you only command Garuda to use Contagion once you have all your buffs up. So instead I'd like the other 3 spells that a pet can use that goes on cd to actually be more powerful than the main spamming spell, allowing leaving a pet on Sic to be viable and not let those extra 2-3 spells go to waste. Here's what I want to see:

Garuda:
Remove Contagion, make it a SMN spell that costs a stack of aetherflow, this will help balance the viability of all Egi's in general.
Wind Blade: main spammable skill, keep as is.
Shockwave: Keep as is, useful utility spell that helps with cancelling skills (like T9 golems).
Aerial Slash: Keep as is, every pet should have an AoE on cooldown.
New 4th skill: I'm not good with coming up with names, but it would be cool if Garuda got a DoT, making it stronger than her spammable skill but not replacing it.

Titan:
Rock Buster: Keep as is. Main spammable skill.
Mountain Buster: Keep as is, aoe skill.
Earthen Ward: Since Titan Egi is meant to be used for tanking, keep the defense raise, but also take the effect from Ifrit Egi's Radiant Shield, dealing damage back to whoever damages Titan Egi, similar to WAR's Vengeance skill.
Landslide: Increase the potency, making it stronger than the spammable skill and giving us a reason to use it whenever it's off cd.

Ifrit:
Crimson Cyclone: Increase potency to 200 and remove the stun effect, making it stronger than the spammable skill and giving us a reason to use it whenever it's off cd.
Burning Strike: Keep as is, Main spammable skill.
Radiant Shield: Remove, nothing will ever be attacking Ifrit since SMN can do more dmg than it, change it to a burning DoT skill of some type, with short duration but high potency.
Flaming Crush: Keep as is, aoe move.

Leviathan: (Will be melee like Ifrit)
Dread Tide: Main Spammable skill, make it low potency but make it aoe, this will be the go to egi for dungeon runs.
Tidal Roar: High potency aoe skill with high cd.
Water Spout: Decreases water resistance of all nearby enemies by 10% for 10s or so, 1min cd or higher.
Deep Water: Summons a pool around itself that inflicts Heavy on any enemy inside it.
Enkindle: Whirlpool: Leviathan Egi gains a buff for 15 seconds, making it pulsate waves of water and causing it to damage every enemy around it every few seconds (think of a powerful shadow flare that follows leviathan egi).

Ramuh: (Will be ranged like Garuda)
Lightning Strike: Main spammable skill.
Shock Strike: AoE skill with moderate cd.
Rolling Thunder: Chains an enemy with a tether of lightning, any enemy chained by this will take increased damage from Ramuh Egi. High cd and only one enemy can be tethered at once.
Chaotic Strike: Low potency skill with high cd, but can silence.
Enkindle: Jugdement Bolt: powerful AoE burst around Ramuh. If an enemy is tethered they will be inflicted with a powerful DoT after the burst of damage rather than taking more damage.

For SMN's themselves, I would like to see a trait that gives us an extra maximum stack of aetherflow (increasing it to 4), Ruin III, which will be stronger and replace Ruin I, and a spell that explodes all the dots you have on an enemy for high dmg. This is different from Fester and something I think SMN's really need. As it is now, SMN's have very consistent dps with the occasional powerful Fester thrown in. When finishing off adds, many classes are able to do one last huge burst of damage to finish off an add (Assasinate, Misery's End, Flare, etc). Whereas SMN's are in a bind when adds are dying and DoT's are about to run out. They can either spam Ruin and deal even less damage than before, or they can recast their DoTs, which will not do high damage because the add will be dead within the next 10 seconds. If we have a skill that explodes our DoT's, it will deal a nice burst of finisher damage and meanwhile removes our DoT's from the enemy, making it viable to use as a finisher but not viable to spam during a prolonged fight due to the high mana costs of DoT's. This gives SMN's better options to use when an add is about to die or when the boss is about to transition into the next phase and turn invulnerable, making any DoT's you casted right before the phase change to be just a waste of mana. Exploding these DoT's will be a super useful tool for Summoners.

Eh, just uh, backstab damage would be nice as a rogue. Shukuchi would be a bit more reasonable if it reduced your threat simply because, well, reason. Unless the enemy has a dbz eye scanner thing then suddenly disappearing should kind of make them lose track of you. But nah, balance above reason is the true path.

Dragoon: Protective Jump.

Like a Paladin's cover, but you jump to your target too. They won't take any AoE damage (e.g. Circle Blade or Meteor Stream; don't want to be taking 2x. damage for that >_>) and you take their single target damage (e.g. autoattacks or something). Get some use out of all that P.Def and HP!

Bard:
Archer/ranger stance:

unable to shoot while moving , unable to cast songs , +30% dmg.

Give me Dalamud Dive pls :p