Better graphics
Casual pve content
Regular patches
Armoury system
What wow does right is pvp, open world pvp, character responsiveness/battle mechanics, massive world, more classes, community (I like the trolling and hating but that's me)
I'm not a wow hater there's many things done extremely well in wow.
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10-31-2014, 03:14 PMJaykos
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10-31-2014, 03:25 PMLeowildeI like the look of the characters and the world better here; it's somewhere in between raibow fantasy and gritty realism, leaving just enough to satisfy both the fantasy -and the realism craving. WoW was more on the gigantic male torsos, tacky robes and purple fantasy-side. I also like the lore, the slightly pun-filled and somewhat borderline NPC dialogue and the outfit designs - although I admit, they seem to slowly climb towards more rainbow and glow... :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Slick
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10-31-2014, 03:38 PMKazumac
Playing WoW feels like playing a game created 10 years ago... while its been polished, updated, etc. for me it still feels like something I've already played enough.
FFXIV is new and fresher and feels that way (despite not really breaking the mold).
It's kinda funny but playing FFXIV over the last year has given me a similar feeling to playing wow back in 2004 - 2005. (A new exciting world to explore, etc) That and I like the graphical style and art more. -
10-31-2014, 04:04 PMMrSigySame thoughts, the only thing that really does frustrate me is that I still cannot bloody swim :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazumac
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10-31-2014, 04:08 PMRamen
better graphic
better system
better music
super friendly dev team
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10-31-2014, 04:19 PMThe_Last_Dragoon
I do believe that the moment they allowed players to "purchase" their lv90 characters was the moment that I decided the game wasn't worth coming back to. Mists of Pandaria lured me back with the Monk class which is what me and my guildies predicted back in WotLK, and new things are always enticing, but it's not right to belittle people who put in the hours to level their characters by allowing players to basically "pay to win".
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10-31-2014, 04:38 PMSeif
Visual design honestly.
WoW has too much pop culture referencing and the look of the world feels too pieced together for me.
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10-31-2014, 04:46 PMDragonSlayer45
I never played WoW so there's that. But judging by what I've heard, I'm lucky I was preoccupied with Final Fantasy XI.
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10-31-2014, 04:50 PMMindylou
I enjoy both equally and play both.
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10-31-2014, 04:52 PMJaykosIts the one of the best games made and by which all MMOs are compared to and to this day still the most subbed to MMO in the market. Its in decline but still brings in Blizzard over a billion dollars revenue. A behemoth of a game that will never be replicated within the industry. It transcended gaming to become a pop culture icon and a household name.Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45
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10-31-2014, 04:58 PMVespar
I prefer the graphics. (Basically I hate WoW's cartoony look)
I also like that the story/quests aren't presented to you in a single wall of text.
Character creation and customization look far better!
Friends from XI also play it. None of them play WoW anymore. -
10-31-2014, 05:23 PMLaerune
I love that I can switch classes and still be on the same character, personaly aside from the FF brand and a good mmorpg in general, the fact that one character can unlock all the classes without rerolling is one of the biggest reason why I prefer FFXIV over WoW.
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10-31-2014, 05:52 PMDuelle
Better lore and better characters. At least here I know they won't pull stuff out of their asses to create raid bosses, and we won't see ridiculous or nonsensical attempts at character arcs.
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10-31-2014, 05:57 PMYahavage
The artistic style is a big thing for me... say what you want about SE and what they've done to the franchise these games always look the business. Also I don't like WoW's 'big one job and that's ya lot!' With you characters. I love that I can just chop and change <3
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10-31-2014, 05:57 PMChiramu
When I first started playing FFXIV, I felt it looked exactly like how I wanted to see WoW. I wanted to see WoW's graphics look more realistic with more realistic colours and have realistic proportions. The dungeons are some much more exciting than WoW. The Job system is awesome and I LOVE the crafting system.
There is nothing in WoW that I find interesting anymore after playing FFXIV and the developers from SE are a lot more involved in their game than the developers for WoW. Blizzard is mostly concerned with their customers in the USA over everywhere else and it takes them 10 years to have servers located in Australia for the Oceanic players? WoD has absolutely nothing to tempt me to put money back into it. Everything I want from an MMO is in FFXIV, so I don't need to leave it :).
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10-31-2014, 06:04 PM-DMR-
Despite never been on Final Fantasy XI or WoW whatsoever, FFXIV was something completely new to me. I got the ps4 game when it first came out, and started having a go with it, a month had passed and I was completely hooked on it, I then subbed and continued playing it. I'll do anything for my character to get to endgaming, whatever the class/job.
The graphics and music in particular where ever my character was in the game, when up against creatures or beasts, is really good.
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10-31-2014, 06:06 PMAmenian
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10-31-2014, 07:05 PMAhmborNo... only right place, right time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaykos
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10-31-2014, 07:25 PMPLD_Danny1989
1) Lorewise, its just more interesting, and in terms of genre, FFXIV has a rich science fantasy flavour, with its technology being in a sort of magic technology industrial revolution.
2) FFXIV is more consistent than WoW with storytelling. If some hidden information needs to be made known in FFXIV, its made to be a shocking reveal that leaves a lot of questions open to be answered. WoWs story was all over the place when I played, and reading up some of the lore later on didn't leave me impressed.
3) I don't have to raid in order to be a good player. I can always choose to raid, and I have done in the past (still need to start SCoB though), but I don't feel as though I'm FORCED to raid in order to get the main story.
4) No need for alts. I hate alt-itis.
5) This one may be my fault, but coming from FFXI where I went in with no friends and made them as I went along, WoW was far too lonely. With FFXIV, I've continued to meet new people and speak with them.
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10-31-2014, 07:40 PMJaykosIt was the perfect storm and they did take elements from other MMOs and put their blizzard polish on it and came out with 4.5 million subs in 12 months. That type of success isn't just contributed just to timing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahmbor
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10-31-2014, 11:59 PMMayrissa
As someone who's been playing WoW since Vanilla and FFXIV since beta of ARR. I still play both games (yes shockingly this is posisble, even with a 40 hour week job, I may unsubscribe from one to focus on another at some points). FFXIV is pretty much The Burning Crusade of WoW in an FF skin. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it baffles me that some people seem to think XIV is a fundamentally different game.
Things I like about FFXIV:
- one character can eventually do everything
- the story
- the 3 month cadence on content drops
- class and job specific quests and storylines
Things I dislike about FFXIV:
- Silly quality of life restrictions (i.e. can't queue while you have your chocobo out, no auto-dismount, can't interact with things while mounted, can't interact with something if you jump, can't accept TPs etc while a Duty is Ready window is open, can't enter dungeons while in a cutscene)
- SMN Pet AI (it's so bad, having to either macro or remember to put it on Steady when mounting up to stop it attacking anything I aggro, also having to micromanage where it's standing)
- Extra Inventory space (well Retainers) being sold at a premium
- So much non-raid progression content requiring daily quests, FATE grinds or FATEs of some sort
- Accuracy caps
- Loading screen everytime you switch areas
- Worrying level of ability bloat considering the first expansion isn't even out yet. Seriously I have 4 full action bars now, not including the 2 for quickly switching jobs or the 1 I have for PvP actions.
Things I like about WoW:
- The gameplay and having more off GCD abilities to interweave with
- 10 years worth of items to choose from when transmogrifying (glamour)
- 10 years worth of content to go back and do
- Not all new content involving Daily Quests
- You can play with friends on any server in your region, making pre-made groups is far easier
- No more hit caps
- Few loading screens
Things I dislike about WoW:
- barrier of entry for new players
- story can be hit and miss
- frequency between content drops is inconsistent
- that they stopped doing class specific questlines for the most part
Things I like about both games:
- The graphics
- The music
- The way they both play
Things I dislike about both games:
- Certain aspects of the community. FFXIV's community is just as bad as WoW's. There are just as many ragers (see Hunts, ragequitters in dungeons or people who AFK if you won't vote kick them) and whiners on the forums. There is just as much casual elitism in the community in both games. Sure it's a lot more immediately obvious in WoW, but that's the virtue of it having a significantly larger playerbase than XIVs. XIVs community is in no way better though, both are just as bad as each other.
- Reliance on very dated MMO game design.
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11-01-2014, 12:09 AMCGMidlander
WoW's art style never really appealed to me. The music was not quite as good as this game either, IMO.
Also, I have a soft spot for Final Fantasy themed games, as I have played plenty of Final Fantasy games when I was younger. I particularly enjoyed FF3 and FF5 for the job system, which this game has elements of. (i.e. Job crystals)
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11-01-2014, 12:34 AMTeryaani
There are a lot of reasons I prefer this to WoW. For the record, I played WoW from cataclysm (Firelands(4.2)) through the Timeless Isle patch in Mists. I have (sub lapsed, but they still exist) four 90s (warlock, paladin, death knight, and mage) and a handful of others at lower levels. All geared well for when I was playing.
With that out of the way, here are mine in no particular order:
* Final Fantasy allows me to play all of the classes without having to log into an alt.
When dealing with gear drops that aren't tradeable this is awesome. I hated getting a drop on my paladin that my lock needed and just having to suck up not being able to do anything about it.
* Final Fantasy has no-grief gathering.
Some people like fighting for resources but I don't. Being able to go out and gather without having someone else swoop in and take a node out from under you is a huge plus.
* The graphics of FFXIV are so much nicer.
* There is no open world pvp.
I know some people want it, but the way WoW did it it was a grief fest.
* Duty locked mobs.
Much like gathering nodes, having a quest mob that someone can't hijack (and thus make the quest take longer) is a nice feature.
* Assisting in killing open world mobs counts in quests and for the hunting log.
WoW has a tag system that makes the mob belong to the first person to hit it. Meaning that players in some zones (Looking at you outlands) have to sit around and hope that they're faster on the trigger finger. Here, if they tag it, that's no big deal. As long as I participate, I get credit.
* More animated emotes
Small thing but nice.
* The community is nicer
No. Really.
EDIT: Also this:
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Originally Posted by CGMidlander
All isn't sunshine and roses though. There are a few things I wish we had from WoW.
* Less onerous crafting system.
I know that ARR's crafting system is an improvement over previous incarnations of the game (or so I've been told at least), but it's a pain in the rear overall.
* More toys!
WoW has had ten years to build up a collection of nonsense/vanity items and I miss that huge pool. I know the game will get there in time.
* Pet battles.
I'm going to cry foul on this. A huge amount of Mists was gated behind faction dailies. You had to grind tillers dailies to unlock your farm, which was necessary to increase faction rep elsewhere. You had to grind golden lotus to get access to certain gear and enchants and I think to open up access to yet another faction grind. Mists was mad with daily locked content, even more than FF is.Quote:
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11-01-2014, 01:05 AMMayrissaYep, it was actually why I quit not long after MoP came out because I was burned out on dailies from Argent Tournament > Cataclysm. But then the vast majority of that gating got removed in 5.4 (or simply made redundant by virtue of better gear coming from Throne of Thunder LFR in 5.2). From playing the beta of Warlords of Draenor there is very little in the way of daily quest/time-locked content etc. Which on that note, I probably will be dropping XIV for WoD when it comes out, and likewise dropping WoW for Heavensward when it comes out.Quote:
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11-01-2014, 01:14 AMTeryaaniArgent dailies...<shudder> so....many....seals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayrissa
Where FF has it's FATE-fixation ("Want a relic? How about a FATE?! Want to upgrade that relic? can I interest you in FATE?"), WoW's way of doing dang near everything was faction rep and dailies. Same grind, different packaging.
The game hopping is what a lot of people seem to be planning but I can't do it. I'm almost definitely giving WoD a miss. Not because it's a bad thing, it's not. They actually fixed one of my biggest issues (the pvp flagging system). But just because there is so much content that I want to do and still haven't touched. -
11-01-2014, 01:18 AMSheele
There is no clean cut reason why XIV > WoW. But if I had to pick some.
XIV story flows, like reading a book... WoW story is choppy like reading a paragraph in one book, then another, then another.
In XIV gives a feeling of the little things you do add up to something great.
In WoW they tried to make every task so epic, that it feels pointless.
XIV has my 3 wife's Shiva, Garuda, Siren.