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Urgh... I am not looking forward to what looks to be another CoinCounter midboss for Snowcloak >.>

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Originally Posted by Niamh_Rillemaugh

Urgh... I am not looking forward to what looks to be another CoinCounter midboss for Snowcloak >.>

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You know, I kind of thought that about the goobbue - "Ugh another goobbue variant that's three we've had so far"

-ninja
-new coil turn
-fenrir (._. dungeon boss but oh well...)

im more than happy with 2.4 :D, if only the release date were announce to be tommorow :p

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Originally Posted by Niamh_Rillemaugh

Urgh... I am not looking forward to what looks to be another CoinCounter midboss for Snowcloak >.>

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Focus target, stay close, get behind him when he turn towards you.
Problem Solved.

Everything is dodgeable/stunable in that fight. Trying this fight as a melee really makes it easier

I'm not sure why people would expect any different from Fenrir. He's been a 'summon' in... what, one, maybe two FF games? (I remember him being in VI, and he may've been in XI but I didn't really pay attention to Summoner there so I forget), so that puts him on the same tier as Diabolos and Siren. At least this isn't something like Alexander.

Anyway, all that pushed aside; I noticed in the dungeon preview on the site today that Snowcloak doesn't have a prerequisite listed, while the other two are the usual "beat the main story" - which seems to suggest Snowcloak will actually be part of 2.4's story?

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Originally Posted by LegendWait

Focus target, stay close, get behind him when he turn towards you.
Problem Solved.

Everything is dodgeable/stunable in that fight. Trying this fight as a melee really makes it easier

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That's not the issue I have with it. The fight is simple if you're paying attention, but the same fight has been used as 2 mid-boss dungeon fights, 1 boss fate fate, an S rank fight, and now we might be seeing it as yet another mid-boss dungeon fight. Unless they introduce a mechanic that drastically switches things up, he'll be the most stale part of Snowcloak before we even set foot in the place.

That is, assuming he's a mid-boss. Maybe he'll be trash this time /shrug

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

I'm not sure why people would expect any different from Fenrir. He's been a 'summon' in... what, one, maybe two FF games? (I remember him being in VI, and he may've been in XI but I didn't really pay attention to Summoner there so I forget), so that puts him on the same tier as Diabolos and Siren. At least this isn't something like Alexander.

Anyway, all that pushed aside; I noticed in the dungeon preview on the site today that Snowcloak doesn't have a prerequisite listed, while the other two are the usual "beat the main story" - which seems to suggest Snowcloak will actually be part of 2.4's story?

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Even if it were part of the story it would have a pre-requisite :X

Edit: Wait I understand you now - its not unlocked after ultima etc so the pre-req must be a storyline mission :P

I just want Ninja. That's it. The rest is neither here nor there to me.

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/img/...078/hyo_12.jpg

There is actually a video preview with this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JlVqfC8-UI

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Originally Posted by Renik

Got to say this is the worst patch since the launch, only nin saves it from being just a minor patch.

As far as we know it only includes 3 dungeons, 1 primal, coil end, and nin, every past patch brought a new feature to make the game feel different and new for the next month, this one only adds more grind, it feels a bit lackluster... but well, there are 1 and may be 2 LL before the implementation, they may be saving something good for the first fan fest...

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Uh, yeah since you can tell what is in this patch already right?
Lets just wait till it's out before we form opinions, okay?

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Originally Posted by Tiamat

So no signs of the Gold Saucer making it in this patch?

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was always planned for the 2.5, not the 2.4

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

I'm not sure why people would expect any different from Fenrir. He's been a 'summon' in... what, one, maybe two FF games? (I remember him being in VI, and he may've been in XI but I didn't really pay attention to Summoner there so I forget), so that puts him on the same tier as Diabolos and Siren. At least this isn't something like Alexander.

Anyway, all that pushed aside; I noticed in the dungeon preview on the site today that Snowcloak doesn't have a prerequisite listed, while the other two are the usual "beat the main story" - which seems to suggest Snowcloak will actually be part of 2.4's story?

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In the german text, the prerequisite is „Häretischer Hinterhalt“. Translated it is something like "Heretical ambush"

hmmm, so you automatically get the arm tattoo for wearing that rogue outfit?

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

Anyway, all that pushed aside; I noticed in the dungeon preview on the site today that Snowcloak doesn't have a prerequisite listed, while the other two are the usual "beat the main story" - which seems to suggest Snowcloak will actually be part of 2.4's story?

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Sure hope so, that would be great!

I just need a release date so I know what day to stay up camping the servers so I can get a personal house. :/

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Originally Posted by TheMunimai

I've been secretly hoping that they've kept it all hush hush and quiet, and that they will release it alongside rogue and ninja - we can hope!!!

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I wish they had done this, because I think just releasing one new job by itself is a bit problematic. Everyone's going to be doing Ninja at the patch release, and DPS is the one role that's *not*currently underplayed.

3 more dung ppl will do now and forget bout the rest
Players will finish story - lv up the new class (if they like it) and leave again
Endgame its soooooo broken since hunts
FFXIV its stuck in the worst gear treadmill i have ever see/ changing every 2 months

Sugestions:
STOP the gear treadmill and focus into a more horizontal progressión . Balance the Dungs and their drop (ilv 60-80 have not reason to be if u can get ilv 90 in few days hunting)
FIX crafting... affter 1 star the crafintg system became TOO expensive and anything but rewarding
FIX game mechanic: Titan Ex an Coil T5 have a LOT of players STUCK since months, game mechanics requires more internet speed an hardware than the rest of the game and allows not even a minimal mistake (really hard for a duty finder party). Also raid lock force players to cordinates agendas, something REALLY hard for adults with a family and job. Low lv dung and old ones represent more challege than new ones and gives less drop

PVP sistem its all bout grinding 1 BG and 1 arena... gets REALLY boring and repetitive. We need more arenas and smallerr BGs. Also Morale system.... wtf with Morale? its completly useless.
Stats Fixing: wtf with determination and spell/skill speed... are close to uselees stats. Its not clear how much crit rate % represent ur crit points or how muhc healing/dmg u get from det.
Housing: its stupid.... u can only decorate and the only reason u will go to ur FC house its to repair ur clothes and have a MB near u... make it more interactive... add buff to read books, make posible to sleep at the house, mke crafting facilities more afortable and lets it buff till lv 50... 1 garden for an entire FC? :S make it bigger at least! its not enough for small FC with 30+ players
FC Buff: are really expensive for small FCs.... most o they are useless.... whats about the GC status? not make any diferents
Achievements: Add some shop to spend ur achievents points :S

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Originally Posted by Rivest

Uh, yeah since you can tell what is in this patch already right?
Lets just wait till it's out before we form opinions, okay?

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read the rest of the post, okay?

i'm really tired of this community, always ready to jump to attack the others if they don't have the same opinion of the majority.

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Originally Posted by Renik

they may be saving something good for the first fan fest...

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Originally Posted by Renik

They have been very quiet about this patch so we don't know much, they always try to foment the hype on the first month after the release of the previous patch, but this time they have only talked about things that may come after 2.4 not in 2.4

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Marked: WTF with the taxes? wheres goes that money? no reason to have taxes in this games
"Jumping puzzles" : really, that was the best u can make with jumping puzzles? to promote exploration :S

hopefully we can damage closed clams with our ninjas in sastasha!

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Originally Posted by Zantitrach

Oh and the bit about "Rogue" hates that it was called "Thief" once, funny!

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"Hey! call me a Treasure Hunter, or I'll rip your lungs out!"

Fenrir a 4man boss, most likely to be steamrolled. :\ Why?

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Originally Posted by TheMunimai

I too like the armour Rogue is displayed in!! I really hope we can get our hands on it, and its not just for show!! :)

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There's a reason there's this one pic with 5 different races and genders wearing that outfit you know ;) Same for the Ninja section, got a similar pic there also showing off the Ninja armour

I love the green pirate looking outfit! Would totally rock that on both my characters.

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Originally Posted by melflomil

Fenrir is a dungeon boss. Oh o. Not a lot people are going to be pleased with that.

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Lol knew it. Good thing i was such a downer for the speculation of the concept art of fenrir. :D
Now im not disappointed in the slightest lol

Why are people sad that Fenrir's a 4man boss? He still has a chance of being difficult right? I mean his fight's not even out yet. He might have a chance of being challenging.

Also can't wait to be Ninja. So excited for this. XD

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/img/...078/hyo_23.jpg

Dem hairstyles. <3

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Originally Posted by SummonerSenah

I love the green pirate looking outfit! Would totally rock that on both my characters.

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It's classic Thief AF. Of course a lot more detailed, but the green, the culottes, the vest, it's all there.

Only thing I'm not looking forward to in 2.4 is the disappointment of coil still being four bosses and no horizontal loot progression. I'm also not looking forward to going an entire raid tier without my allagan weapon, that out of 20 weeks of farming, should have dropped. If they don't start addressing these issues soon, the raid community for this game will ultimately die as more advanced MMOs get updates.

I am just interested on how a Galka can be a rogue/ninja.
How is he sneaking anywhere!

No one even noticed one of Qarn's bosses are a bunch of Cactuars with clubs and wands. Awesome!

This patch can't come fast enough need me some Coil 3.

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Originally Posted by Tempting

I am just interested on how a Galka can be a rogue/ninja.
How is he sneaking anywhere!

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have u ever seen a galka nin? of course u dont , because galka ninjas are master of stealth..... :P

Are those hairstyles those elves available in game? Or just unique to them? Gotta say it looks nice!

I hope the work on the patch until it's really done and not a mess like 2.38 housing mess.

The lack of any response to space concerns confirms that they haven't changed their terrible plans at all. At this point I don't give a damn about recycled assets and hope more time will be devoted to what they broke in 2.38.

Doubling the space will only ser under 1% of the players and FCs are still unable to get housing of any kind.

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Originally Posted by myahele

Are those hairstyles those elves available in game? Or just unique to them? Gotta say it looks nice!

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Seems unique, just like Minfilla's and other NPC's special haircut.

I am really hoping the new dungeons will not be redundant on release (like the 2.3 dungeons were). If they require a minimal ilevel of 80 to enter and drop i90 gear, then any point of running the dungeons at all (outside of Glamour and tomes, which can also be acquired from Hunts) is gone. If it requires a minimal ilevel of 100-105 for entry and drops i105 gear, which can be used for Second Coil (and maybe Final, if the gears main stat is accuracy), then they won't be a complete waste and actually bring some life back to gear progression.

How can some of you say most dissapointing patch? We get Rogue/Ninja, new dungeons and more importantly Shiva :)
The outfits i am not a fan of for Rogue, wish they would come out with more unique and awesome gear over a show your stomach clothing, lol

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Originally Posted by Maero

How can some of you say most dissapointing patch? We get Rogue/Ninja, new dungeons and more importantly Shiva :)
The outfits i am not a fan of for Rogue, wish they would come out with more unique and awesome gear over a show your stomach clothing, lol

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Well.... to date, SE has a track record for overhyping and under-delivering when it comes to patches, so.....

I'm about as underwhelmed for this patch as I could probably be, and honestly, I still expect SE to disappoint me yet again.

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Originally Posted by Renik

Got to say this is the worst patch since the launch, only nin saves it from being just a minor patch.

As far as we know it only includes 3 dungeons, 1 primal, coil end, and nin, every past patch brought a new feature to make the game feel different and new for the next month, this one only adds more grind, it feels a bit lackluster... but well, there are 1 and may be 2 LL before the implementation, they may be saving something good for the first fan fest...

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Agreed. Feels like the same content, reskinned. Very zzzz.