Looks like that LS has 20 players, not 128. Regardless, I do agree that LS groups should be allowed subs. But whatever works d00dz!
Gratz to all who have cleared t10 and AU on t11 as well. Wow! That is some quick progression. :)
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Looks like that LS has 20 players, not 128. Regardless, I do agree that LS groups should be allowed subs. But whatever works d00dz!
Gratz to all who have cleared t10 and AU on t11 as well. Wow! That is some quick progression. :)
Grats on all the clears so far.
PS. Oniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
I like that idea. I'm not against having Linkshells having subs available in them either but at most i would say 4 players. (Not specifically this make up but my reasoning behind the number 4 is 2 dps/1 healer/1 tank sub or something of the sort.)Quote:
Maybe require a Linkshell to register before being able to post for progression? You'd at least ensure they're an actual static group for 2.4, and not just a PF group or a 6-7/8 FC group who pugged two randoms for whatever reason. Require the registry at least 24 hours before any clears are claimed, so that people don't just 'shell up and register immediately beforehand just "in case" they beat it?
Seeing as we never specified rules and regulations prior to your post, I'm not against listing your LS kill, however those changes would have to be made for future progression.
Ooh, that's a way better name for our static than "I have AIDs". I'll bring it up the next time we're all on.
Btw, it's pretty stupid that an FC can have any number of players as subs but you're going to nitpick about our static having 8 members, their alts, one sub, and two friends who barely ever play. I guess a glorified pug getting server 4th must really give you the butthurts, eh?
Don't make this personal. I'm simply stating what the majority of end game companies think/feel.
actually most of that link shell is a bunch of our alts and a few good standbys. if you can clearly see, those with stars next to them in the LS name are the ones shown in my screen shot of our win. i could really mess with you and say i'll post next week with a Full fc clear, but i am not fond of that rule. who knows we'll see. also we've been raiding with this same set up since 2.2. we were all in there prior to 2.4 already.
lol we name our static in accordance to what ever we have trouble in the first new turn. last big coil patch were the bulbs. this patch it's those damned red dots.
My bad. I saw the name changes and raised an eyebrow. I assumed that they were all on and had logged due to maintenance; I didn't even think beyond that.
That seems a tad unfair because FCs don't have the same requirement; although, they're significantly harder to form. But, because nothing's stopping someone from dropping FC to join another to count for progression I think it might be better to look for solutions elsewhere. Specifically, perhaps we can limit the size of a linkshell to be less than that of two fully formed raid groups? Twelve players would be easily enough to account for subs and fifteen would give even more breathing room without lending itself to duplicate entries of overlapping linkshell kills. However, in the end of the day the judgment call can be left to Milulu as it is his thread and the trend of threads of this nature have been: "Well, if you want to record it, you can record it however you'd like."
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That being said, this whole thing does raise an interesting point. On the one hand, there's no point tracking progression for a pug group, as we're only interested in statics. On the other hand, a large linkshell that pulls members who are available to kill it feels more like a pug group with a more limited pool of players (which then isn't much difference from an FC, but there's no good way to tell if an FC static is indeed a static, since those will tend to have more members). At the least, I'm interested in giving credit to those who successfully kill content, a kill is a kill, but I wish to respect the community's desire to only track the progression of static groups and not pugs. Thus, I'll be amending the rules for linkshells a little bit, and I'll try to be as fair as possible (your kill before this rule will count, don't worry).
-All linkshells must have no more than 16 members, 8 main and 8 backup raiders. Alts should not be included in a raiding linkshell.
-All linkshells should include the linkshell window in their screenshot WHILE in the completed duty screenshot, you may take multiple screenshots of the kill, loot, time, linkshell, whatever, so long as the linkshell window is visible while in the instance. (all party members must also be showing).
If you raid as a static linkshell and have more than that number of members, you may make a linkshell purely for your static team (and those backups), and just not use it, so long as the linkshell is made and named before the content is cleared. As long as that's there, then I'm certain nobody will have any problems with any further kills. And please keep all arguing out of this thread, this is not a discussion thread but a progression one, comments about progression are allowed but bickering is not.
edit: if you guys could post said screeny next week or with 11 if you get it this week, then I'd really appreciate that
As far as I know, you can't open the linkshell window while in an instance.
That might be right DX
If so, nevermind the linkshell pic in instance, but some verification so I know it wasn't made post raid would be nice. If anything, just a pic immediately after (or even better, with loot showing) will be plenty, but I won't require it if it's too hard to get. The linkshell pic during the instance I mean, the plain screen of the linkshell window with members is still needed.
T10 Down for The Royalz (RYLZ).
Cleared at 9:12 CST (7:12 PST) on Thursday October 30th, 2014.
Drops: Casting Ring, Tank Bracelet
http://i.imgur.com/5lDq4Pm.jpg
Nostalgia did some Shiva EX's. (Screenshot was like 3rd or 4th kill, chat log is scrolled up to the 1st kill, if that means anything :P )
http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/...1DCBD38D45654/
Yup, you're fine for now, but in the future, linkshells are going to want a linkshell with just their members and backups, even if it's not the main linkshell you use. So long as the static is a static before you go in, progression will count, and that's the easiest way to show it.
Nostalgia got T11.
EDIT: 10/31/2014 (forgot to post date earlier >.<)
8:11pm EST
5:11pm PST
Video: (BRD PoV) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Wolp7RvhY
http://puu.sh/cyfw6.png
Astralis [LS] has downed T10.
http://i.gyazo.com/e4f84da7d57e18cb9baf0afb9c564551.png
Mostly Canadian LS has cleared Shiva EX.
http://i.imgur.com/MIJwrf7.png?1
Video
http://www.twitch.tv/hexatonious/c/5413625
Edit: Lost Control is late to the party for SEX!
http://i.imgur.com/gxvQQPZ.jpg
World first all girl team < Howard Moon's Goons > cleared T10. (^:
http://gyazo.com/477f5a4ac9f1b79bc99a74a9bbcb9c7a
http://gyazo.com/477f5a4ac9f1b79bc99a74a9bbcb9c7a
Derped the image.
Pretty sure that's Controls group.
You'd be wrong friend! Only person who's in Lost Control was Stox, and he was subbing cause our tank had to go to work. The other BLM was also a sub, although I'm not sure who he's originally with. If that prevents us for "quallifying" to be counted towards Levi's progression, then that's fine, Idc. I just wanted the world to know that my girls came through. Howard's Angel's OP!
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We got a bunch of Glitch people together and got our full FC clear.
http://i.imgur.com/W6CKk1z.png
http://i.imgur.com/uAVL69i.jpg
EDIT:
http://i.imgur.com/RQCs2ZD.png
Loot picture
AU T12 down
Glitch downed T10. November 2nd 2014 9:56 EST
http://i.imgur.com/kzUfzoO.jpg
ERA had some SEX time and downed it ;) We had cleared it in other groups, but decided to get it together and kill it. We were hoping to get our T10 kill posted but wiped at .01% (literally had 30 HP left) Will be posting that SS soon! :D
http://i.imgur.com/Mg0MLBq.jpg
Royalz has downed T11 on 11/2/2014 @ 11:00 PM CST (9:00 PST)
Drops: Healer Belt / Tank Choker
http://i.imgur.com/7nNNxTO.jpg
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Also downed Shiva EX finally tonight on 11/3/2014 @12:39 AM CST (11:39 PM PST)
http://i.imgur.com/SmUnef4.jpg
Where is MFC at lol....?
One Shot Pls [LS] downed Turn 10. 11/2/2014 @ 8.50PM PST. We have a new BLM since last roster post.
Slaying Choker / Maiming Tassets
Kill vid (MT PoV): http://www.twitch.tv/lan_hikaru/c/5423451
http://i.imgur.com/ZYyBvmc.png
http://i.imgur.com/6cKXlTz.jpg
T10 down for ERA's Team Tuna! Killed at 10:04 pm 11/3/14
Drops were NIN belt and BRD earrings! I told you we'd kill it today! :D
Video of the Kill: http://www.twitch.tv/grievear/c/5429379
http://i.imgur.com/iSH6Nyh.jpg
Lost Control has downed T11.
http://i.imgur.com/kqOCr1C.jpg
Grats bulb, and lost control. Just curious but is Julian's group still active in control?
MFC is still around, although they are having recruitment problems. They will certainly down T10 this week. Also I have posted Lost Control's Shiva Extreme kill at the bottom of page 6 and forgot to mention the FC in the post. If you would be so kind as to update that for us. Thanks!
Aethyrnet's first FC clear of T10 11/5/12 10:30pm EST (cleared as a linkshell with the same members 10/31/14)
Second week in a row of caster choker and healer earrings.
http://i.imgur.com/zSmAayO.jpg