SE please dont make mudra's macroable

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

TLC turned what would have been an irredeemably stupid thread into an amazingly awesome one.

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i want there to be something to scare away narutards before the term lolnin is coined.

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Originally Posted by Moheeheeko

right, that's why after the launch 90% of black mages only used blizz 2, because fates teach people.

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Bizz 2 was great pre nerf. Especially in T4 right before soldiers spawned. Full MP and fast cast ready . . . pre nerf, was great.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

SE, please delete any macros that the OP has & lock them out from any future use.

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i dont use any macro's. i just want there to be something inherent to the job that scares away bad players. i want players to HAVE to memorize the mudra combos.

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Originally Posted by Zoeila

i dont use any macro's. i just want there to be something inherent to the job that scares away bad players. i want players to HAVE to memorize the mudra combos.

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Why? Why do you care if someone uses a macro or not?

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Originally Posted by Parodine

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That moment that you're faced with how old you are and that you kinda miss TLC (both the group and the television station).

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Originally Posted by CSX

Why? Why do you care if someone uses a macro or not?

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Because the trend is to think that macros are universally bad. A BRD that uses a Misery's End macro? Might as well just not even attack at all with how much of a decrease in damage that macro will apparently do (in their minds). Wouldn't be surprised if these same people actually think macros for crafters are for "scrubs" too. In which case, I'm gonna scrub it up all I want, I'm still making millions off these people.

I don't see how a macro for ninja (assuming the 3 skills combined to create the desired effect can be macroed to an equal or faster time than manually) Can be a bad thing.

The only disadvantage I can imagine is if you have 5 different mudras (I II III IV V VI) and you are going I II III for a certain effect but something happens on the battlefield where you are mid combo and decide to switch to I II IV which could be more effective for example an AOE when a bunch of adds pop like garuda's feathers. That seems to be entirely massively situational and judging at the speed they are used already would require really good timing.

In my opinion I would imagine macroing the mudra's would make perfect sense as you could have all the desired outcomes neatly organised to be used at will, even more so if they can be done with minimal wait times that could be quicker than human input.

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Originally Posted by Zoeila

i want there to be something to scare away narutards before the term lolnin is coined.

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People have been begging since the start to improve the quality of Dragoon. Lolnin is the only way

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Originally Posted by Zoeila

i dont use any macro's. i just want there to be something inherent to the job that scares away bad players. i want players to HAVE to memorize the mudra combos.

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About that.. how many bards have you seen that don't use songs? Mudra being hard will just mean level 50 rogues in ninja gear.

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Originally Posted by Firepower

I don't see how a macro for ninja (assuming the 3 skills combined to create the desired effect can be macroed to an equal or faster time than manually) Can be a bad thing.

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its bad because it would let people bypass having to memorize them. and judging by the vitrol im getting im guessing a lot of people wanted to be lazy and do just that. i have no problem with general macro use but this is different.

edit:even though its not possible, to me it would be like a monk macroing thier entire rotation instead of memorizing it and adjusting it on the fly.

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Originally Posted by Zoeila

its bad because it would let people bypass having to memorize them. and judging by the vitrol im getting im guessing a lot of people wanted to be lazy and do just that. i have no problem with general macro use but this is different.

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I'm not giving you vitrol. I'm saying making ninja super hard isn't going to make them an elite class among classes, its going to make them "lolnin"

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Originally Posted by Zoeila

edit:even though its not possible, to me it would be like a monk macroing thier entire rotation instead of memorizing it and adjusting it on the fly.

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Protip: people do actually do this

Fine, no more SCH macros. Hope you can wait to die before I finish finding my abilities on these 4 crossbars.

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Originally Posted by Zoeila

i want there to be something to scare away narutards before the term lolnin is coined.

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What are you talking about?

lolnin was coined as soon as Ninja was announced. You obviously don't understand just how popular ninja are.

I don't think harder combos is going to make the Job any less desirable to those who want to play it. The elitists will abandon the job when they find out that it can't compete with MNK DPS, and the "scrubs" will just play the job badly. I'm calling it now, NIN is going to be the next loldrg.

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Originally Posted by jomoru

charge people for joining your party finder group.

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Charge people? I'll probably shout offering 10k a run for either a tank or healer to queue with me.

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Originally Posted by Zoeila

i dont want scrubs cheating by macroing every mudra combo

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You're aware even without this it's just easy as pie to place them in the right order on your hotbars? Even if you need some repetition; it's not like there's going to be 20 different 10-mudra combos.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Now that's just racist, why can't the poor Dekus use macros

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They're Shrubs, not Scrubs

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

They're Shrubs, not Scrubs

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http://zeldawiki.org/Deku_Scrub

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Originally Posted by Raxion

I'm calling it now, NIN is going to be the next loldrg.

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People have been calling it since E3.

I'ma be the best Ninja in FFXIV.

Srs. Da Best Ninja.

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Originally Posted by ZReport

I'ma be the best Ninja in FFXIV.

Srs. Da Best Ninja.

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*is going to be Narutard Shadow*

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Originally Posted by Lithera

No one in their right mind would macro them anyways given the timing limitations of the <wait> command.

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This. I leveled WAR thinking I could just make a Heavy Swing> Skull Sundererererer> Butcher's Block macro but found it actually made the combo slower as opposed to doing the combo manually.

^ Yea, that is definately not how to do it. Glad you figured that out. The misconception people have with macros is "it will do it for me". You are not a bot lol. Or maybe you are....whatever. WS, for the most part, should not be macro'd together as described above. However, OGC skill macroed with WS at times can be good. Like I said earlier, it all depends. I ran with a DRG that looked like he was in a stobe light with his combos coz of macros. It was funny.

Let people play however they want. If they'd like to macro their skills, why shouldn't they be able to? Anyone who puts the macro in obviously knows the combination in the first place, or they wouldn't have been able to create the macro.

Testing someone's memory isn't the same as testing someone's skill. One of those involves reacting on the fly to new situations, while one just involves doing the same thing you did last time. Pretty much 90 percent of every boss battle in the game.