What we are talking about is the hardware capabilities, not the online services, also PSN had a complete overhaul of its infrastructure from the hack which takes a long time to completly replace and reconfigure hardware that can handle 11 million users.Quote:
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Multiple Console Ports!!!
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07-30-2011, 12:18 AMDelsus
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07-30-2011, 12:23 AMDelsusWe are talking about the contant lockups when the 360 has to load and render hundreds of modelsQuote:
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See here if you need more proof then you can just google xbox besieged, this was on ffxi.
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07-30-2011, 12:26 AMGramulWe're talking about the WiiU and from what we understand, that will be a bit more powerful than a PS3.Quote:
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07-30-2011, 12:27 AMDeadRiserI'm just stopping people from bashing a great console.Quote:
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07-30-2011, 12:34 AMDelsusI'm not trying to bash the 360, im just giving valid arguments to say that it could impede development of ffxiv, look at ffxi, almost everything the community wants added like new zones, more inventory, new mobs etc, all come with the reply "this would not be viable because of PS2 limitations" this would happen with FFXIV in 360 alot faster than ps3 because of the differance in specs, again im not trying to bash 360 these are just the factsQuote:
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07-30-2011, 12:34 AMLeenk
I'm not gonna touch on the 360 version because i really think that it's extremely unlikely.
As for the PS3 version. I cant wait. My wife and i decided to play this game because we could play together without buying a second PC. The postponement has made it so that she rarely plays.
The only negatives i can see about the console launch is waiting for it. OH! and ps3 updates. Updating any game now for that console takes forever, installing FFXIV could take days. -
07-30-2011, 12:54 AMZiyyigo-TipyigoThere's no legitimate reason for a cross-platform online game, like XIV is supposed to be, to even touch PSN.Quote:
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07-30-2011, 12:55 AMKrausus
I'm glad it isn't being released on the xbox. [Comment deleted by moderator] xbox wants to make you pay not only for the sub of the game but also for xbox gold at the same time.
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07-30-2011, 12:58 AMDeadRiserIt's that bad to you? Must I bring up the issue with it not going offline for 2 months? Plus xbox gets updates to the online capabilities like party chat over different games and chat period. PS3 doesn't even have that yet and that worries me. I like to chat over different games. They need to catch up.Quote:
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07-30-2011, 01:06 AMGramulThe offline fiasco is in the past Riser. There's no reason to worry about it anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadRiser
Having to pay for two subscriptions is a legitimate complaint due to the waste of money that would easily be circumvented by any of the other versions. Party chat would be a nice feature, but it would only be useful to players that use the Xbox version. It's a fine console, but it's not really fit for this kind of game. -
07-30-2011, 01:13 AMLeenk
The psn was only down for 20something days wasnt it? where does riser get 2 months?
The PS3 is where this game belongs. Xbox live has far too many hurdles for se to jump through, the least of which is the subscription. Anyone who is going to be playing this on their xbox is probably already shelling out the cash for XBLgold anyhow. But did any of you play XI on the 360. Anytime you had an update, you were forced to question whether or not it'd force you to reinstall the entire game.
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07-30-2011, 01:13 AMDelsusWhen was the last time MS did a complete rebuild of the infrastructure of XBL? They do it in increments of whats needed to minimise impact on customers, however Sony needed to do a complete rebuild after they got hacked, which 2 months is an acceptable timeframe for a rebuild on that scale.Quote:
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07-30-2011, 01:19 AMTheVedis
nintendo will never allow the networking involved for this
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07-30-2011, 01:25 AMGramulI dunno about that. I doubt the 3rd party torrent that seems to have fallen in love with the WiiU would be happy with minimal online service that hurt the Wii. But we'll see how it goes.Quote:
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07-30-2011, 01:27 AMKamikazeManAlthough the game wouldn't look as great on the 360 as it would on PC, it wouldn't hold back the PS3 and PC versions. Just like the PS2 version didn't hold back the PC and 360 version. I hope it gets released on the 360 because it only means more people to play with for everybody. Hell, I hope it gets released on the Wii U for this reason.Quote:
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07-30-2011, 01:33 AMCairdeasIt has more ram and a larger gpu, but NaughtyDog has proved those are not important to make an awesome looking game on the PS3 (Uncharted 2 is like majority rendered by the cell processor using the ram and gpu as swap space only really and for rendering smaller graphic effects like water on the screen edge. )Quote:
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07-30-2011, 01:37 AMDelsusThe reason they have only used reskinned zones since WotG, reskinned mobs, work arounds for extra inventory and more is because of PS2 memory limitations, the PS2 is holding back FFXI, and the most inferior console, which would be 360 if its released on it, will start to hold FFXIV back, the time frame depends on which consoles its released on.Quote:
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07-30-2011, 01:59 AMCairdeas
if it was released on the 360 it would be at 545 resolution, not 720P like the PS3 and 1080P like the PC.
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07-30-2011, 01:59 AMFiosha_Maureiba
While I love my xbox 360 and some of my Microsoft contacts, I don't believe FF14 would be profitable for SE or MS if released on the 360.
There are some "hurdles" that has prevented games like Borderlands, Call of Duty, Assassins Creed, and other multi platform games from playing cross platform. 360 would sooner have separate servers for FF14. -
07-30-2011, 02:15 AMKamikazeManUm, not it doesn't. The console hasn't even launched and already the games look as good as games look late in the PS3 and 360's life cycle. All games that come out at the beginning of a console's lifespan pale in comparison to what the console can really do.Quote:
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07-30-2011, 02:15 AMKamikazeManI just don't understand why Microsoft is so against it all of a sudden. It works well for FF XI, doesn't it?Quote:
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07-30-2011, 02:16 AMGramulNot to mention most of them are ports.Quote:
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07-30-2011, 02:17 AMKraususis it for sure only going to be 720p on PS3?Quote:
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07-30-2011, 02:18 AModetteevery game multiplataform in xbox360 looks better that ps3Quote:
Originally Posted by Leenk
sincerely mmorpg playing better in pc that console, the reason you cant uses ventrilo or teamspeak on console
same reason that wow never go to console
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07-30-2011, 02:20 AMEekikiIndeed. They also like to bitch about "version parity".Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVedis
The version of Final Fantasy XIII that we got was butchered pretty badly, because Microsoft insisted that the PS3 version be exactly the same as the 360 version. So a lot was cut out of the game, because the 360 simply couldn't handle everything SE wanted to do with the game. For example, the option to hear the Japanese voice track. -
07-30-2011, 02:26 AMSpectre316
Would be nice for it to come out on the xbox as well the more players the better I say. As for the PS3 version I will be picking that up when it is out.
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07-30-2011, 02:30 AMForerunnerHow'd you know?Quote:
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07-30-2011, 02:36 AMTheVedisffxi was an exception used to get SE into bed with themQuote:
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07-30-2011, 05:36 AMSeif
Honestly I don't understand how anybody could be against porting XIV.
The more players the better I say. The game is improving but the players that left aren't coming back at the same rate and most will never return.
The console players are a large group that could fill the empty world of Eorzea and I personally don't care what console or controller they're using as long as I can play with them.
Graphically the game needs to be optimized anyway to work on more PCs so I don't see why that work can't be used to make console ports as well. Porting a game really isn't as massive project as these forum posts would have you believe and bigger companies use tools that automate a lot of the process. In smaller companies there's usually 1 to 3 guys working on porting the game to multiple platforms.
In the long run subscriptions could easily cover the cost of porting the game and let's remember that work would benefit all the players because it's contributing to the quality of the game for all of us.
I own all the consoles and I don't get why people are so close minded they bicker what's the best one. Honestly they all have their pros and cons. It's stupid to pay so much attention to what the ports graphics would be like. When you play an MMO the graphics are one of the least important parts of the entire experience since after a few hours you become completely blind to them and view them just as symbols to the objects within the game world. -
07-30-2011, 05:41 AMOJtheLIONKing
I'm more in favor of keeping it as a PS3 exclusive for this generation, but having a FFXI-360 style port to the next generation consoles Sony and Microsoft come out with. I doubt this will work well with Wii U. It's pretty late in the console life cycle anyway, so this would be a good move to keep the game relevant, so it probably won't be coming out for PS3 in the immediate future.