Please remove this 2000 total Mythology cap!

The ammount of community trash in this thread is so high, lol. Razzle said it all.

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Originally Posted by Hik0

spending 3month farming atmas for over 2h/days and still not get done?

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If you have time to farm myths while beeing in the atma stone part you're doing it wrong

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Originally Posted by Felis

If you have time to farm myths while beeing in the atma stone part you're doing it wrong

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how someone playing the game so he enjoy it is doing it wrong?
people may want to enjoy playing the game and not just spend all their time on boring fate farming and since everything "endgame" outside SCOB give myth he gets them.
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if you don't cap your soldiery you're doing it wrong! (you get also myth)
if you don't join people killing the "elite mob " that just pop in front of you, you're doing it wrong!(you get also myth)

Person 1: Oh... You wan't Myth cap removed? Hey thats not such a bad idea!

Person 2: Y U WANT MYTH CAP REMOVED? U STUPID, COMMON SENSE.. SPEND YOUR MYTH IF YOU ABOUT TO CAP!!!!

Person 1: But... What if I wanted to save them up so I could buy Atma books or something?

Person 2: NOOOO! YOU CAN ONLY HOLD 1 BOOK ANYWAY Y U WANNA REMOVE CAP?

Person 1: Because..

Person 2: U STUPID! COMMON SENSE! SPEND IT IF ITS A PROBLEM

Person 1: Well, regardless of cap or no cap the amount of time I would have to spend to earn Myth would be the same no? So whats the fuss?

Person 2: BECAUSE IT RUIN DA GAME! Y U SO LAZY?!?! YOU JUS WANNA HOARD ALL DA MYTH AND DO ALL YOUR BOOKS IN 1 GO WHEN U GET THERE

Person 1: Erhem... I still have to do all of my books 1 at a time.. The same way everyone else had to do theirs...

Person 2: RELIC QUEST SUPPOSE TO BE LONG PAINFUL PROCESS, YOU SHOULD SUFFER AND ENDURE THE CYCLE THAT IS BOOK, MYTH GRIND, BOOK, MYTH GRIND!!!!

Person 1: Book, myth, book myth, book, myth..... myth, myth, myth, myth, book, book, book, book, does it really hurt ANYBODY if I am allowed to make progress a little differently?

Person 2: IM DONE WITH U, U CANNOT BE REASONED WITH.. COMMON SENSE IS SUPER HERO TRAIT OMG


This is kinda how I interpreted this thread anyway.

No cap on myths = endless supply of myth's item in market = eventually worth 1 gil = no point of having myth items

Maybe if the devs keep myths in 2.4 and books would be the only thing you could buy with myths

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Originally Posted by Nosiahk

No cap on myths = endless supply of myth's item in market = eventually worth 1 gil = no point of having myth items

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Um, there is already an endless supply of myth available. You just have to spend the time to earn it... Cap or no cap it doesn't matter the amount of myth available will be the same, although having a cap of Myth encourages flooding the market even more because people are forced to sell off the excess myth so they can keep earning more of it..

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Originally Posted by Alish

Um, there is already an endless supply of myth available. You just have to spend the time to earn it... Cap or no cap it doesn't matter the amount of myth available will be the same, although having a cap of Myth encourages flooding the market even more because people are forced to sell off the excess myth so they can keep earning more of it..

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Stop trying to be sensible. People will just get angry at you.

I took a looong break from doing roulettes to painfully gather atmas. I dont have that many hours of playtime a day, so it took me a bit... However im glad i did as i can spend my myth tomes on books :3 and they are quite fun if youre into that sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by Nosiahk

No cap on myths = endless supply of myth's item in market = eventually worth 1 gil = no point of having myth items

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Actually, it would reduce the amount of myth items on the market, because you wouldn't have people buying them just to uncap their myth. Did. . .did you even think about what you were typing?

I feel the cap is specifically in place to primarily prevent the transfer of more then 2k myth into soldiery once it goes the way of philo tomes, with the added effect of forcing a staggered pace to the Animus books so that you can't do one book after the next without doing anything else in between. While you may not see a reason that you shouldn't be able to do, SE might.

Regardless though, they can't have no cap on myth and then later implement a cap, because what could they possibly do at that point to make the people with way over capped myth happy with their then 2k? The only way to do it is to cap it from the start, and keep it that way until they're irrelevant, as philo are now.

Too little sense beings made speaks englishes more please no more stupids talkings like Jar Jar binkeses

Back when hunts were the thing i'd get 5 - 6k myth per day, removing the cap right now would be horrendously stupid.

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Originally Posted by Nosiahk

No cap on myths = endless supply of myth's item in market = eventually worth 1 gil = no point of having myth items

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2players in a team are hunting, for whatever reason B cap is removed.
when A is over 1500 and no elite are up he warp to spend myth on mats, B have 1500 myth
when A is over 1500 again A buy a 2nd item , b is at 3k myth
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when A is over 1500 again A buy a n item, b is at 1500n myth
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@ the end off the day A buy his m item, b is at m*1500 myth and buy the m items, both player got m item A just spend m teleport fees over B.

=> uncaped myths doesnt do anything on supply!

I'm surprised how many people are gung-ho about how there absolutely must be a myth cap without actually being able to produce reasoning as to why. So far it's just been "Because I said so and because that's how it currently is!".

Sounds to me like a lot of people who are afraid of change, regardless of how small it is. =D

It's called inflation. God dammit people. Larger or no cap would create an exponential jump in myth prices for simple items, you think it's fine the way it is,but you have that option to play the game too much to consider 2k is a silly cap. For the rest of us that only have some hours here and there the 2k cap is not often hit daily or often and as a result the prices set for myth items are reasonable. I'm fine with 1500 myth for a book, can you imagine the price if there was no cap? Thanks, but no thanks.

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Well i already got all IL90 gear set for my other jobs( even the jobs that is not lv 50 yet) and that include all zenith relic weapons... now my mytho caps aways reach 2000 and what i can do with it?

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Sounds like someone started working on their Atma weapon(s) a bit late.

P.s. I haven't hit the cap in months.

Why not request removing Sol cap instead? ^^;

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Originally Posted by Tolmos

I'm surprised how many people are gung-ho about how there absolutely must be a myth cap without actually being able to produce reasoning as to why. So far it's just been "Because I said so and because that's how it currently is!".

Sounds to me like a lot of people who are afraid of change, regardless of how small it is. =D

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Let me hold your hand and show a prime reason why not.

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Originally Posted by Nosiahk

No cap on myths = endless supply of myth's item in market = eventually worth 1 gil = no point of having myth items

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Seriously it was one page behind your comment, are you THAT lazy? Stop bashing people if you're not even going to bother to put forth 1 millimeter of effort. Don't try to reword your comment either. What you said exactly in this quote states no one made a good reason, not most made bad reasons or some... your verbiage shows NO ONE made a good reason. That is an extremely valid reason.

I'd like to see them remove the cap for one reason only, Animus. The cap only hurts that. You can farm and spend myth almost effortlessly, I hit the cap occasionally but immediately go and spend all my points so cap or no cap I would still have the same supply to the market of materials.

You can buy or farm and store, radz oil, thanvarian mists, atma, scroll ink, alexandrite. So any job getting to 50 can immediately rank straight through the questline EXCEPT ANIMUS. Yup that 13500 myth you need for all the books can't be stored so you cant pre-emptively prepare that phase which immediately makes relic a pointless upgrade now since getting weapon from leviathan or farming CT for the allagan tomestone allows you to pre-emptively gear a new job. Whilst the relic questline at animus phase is stonewalled behind the cap of myth.

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Originally Posted by Firepower

... So any job getting to 50 can immediately rank straight through the questline EXCEPT ANIMUS. Yup that 13500 myth you need for all the books can't be stored so you cant pre-emptively prepare that phase which immediately makes relic a pointless upgrade now since getting weapon from leviathan or farming CT for the allagan tomestone allows you to pre-emptively gear a new job. Whilst the relic questline at animus phase is stonewalled behind the cap of myth.

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Consider that this might be intentional, and part of the point?

The relic chain isn't a normal part of gearing up, it goes entirely outside of it. Anyone can see that it's easier to get better gear through just about any means 'other' then the relic chain. It's largely vanity and accolades, which require more from the players no matter where they pop up in this game.

Yeah I mean, if we were allowed to pre-load 13500 Myth, why not allow the dungeons, fates, and monsters for Animus book to be done before you can actually buy a trials book:confused:

I suspect the cap is there for a gear change. I guess as ilvl increases, soldiery gear will bump down to myth tomes, myth to Philo and a new gear level will be available using soldiery.

If there were no cap, as soon as the soldiery gear became myth players could just have a full set for their alt jobs as soon as they hit 50. It would also apply to SE adding in aesthetic items to prevent people buying loads and flooding the market boards with them.

It'll get removed in 2.4 similar to philosophy, until then just spend them, as several people have said it takes a minute to spend them...

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Originally Posted by SeekerScorpio

Let me hold your hand and show a prime reason why not.

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Originally Posted by Tolmos

I'm surprised how many people are gung-ho about how there absolutely must be a myth cap without actually being able to produce reasoning as to why. So far it's just been "Because I said so and because that's how it currently is!".

Sounds to me like a lot of people who are afraid of change, regardless of how small it is. =D

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Originally Posted by Nosiahk

No cap on myths = endless supply of myth's item in market = eventually worth 1 gil = no point of having myth items

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Seriously it was one page behind your comment, are you THAT lazy? Stop bashing people if you're not even going to bother to put forth 1 millimeter of effort. Don't try to reword your comment either. What you said exactly in this quote states no one made a good reason, not most made bad reasons or some... your verbiage shows NO ONE made a good reason. That is an extremely valid reason.

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actually it isn't a valid reason at all. it's a speculated excuse nothing more.
unless you can come up with a real valid reason please stop trolling the forums to flame people.

I don't necessarily agree with the OP but, you people standing against his suggestion are just speculating.

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Originally Posted by TheMunimai

It'll get removed in 2.4 similar to philosophy, until then just spend them, as several people have said it takes a minute to spend them...

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yeah spending them on things you don't want is a great idea

Honestly I think a better idea IF they don't plan to remove myth tomes would be to slowly raise the cap on them. maybe in 1k or 2k increments over several patches like maybe bring em up to 3k in 2.4 and 4k in 3.0...something like that.

"I don't have time to quickly teleport to mor dhona, and walk 20 feet to the npc that exchanges items for myth. Please allow me to be even lazier"

If you don't want to spend mitho in things you dont want, then by the love of god, DON'T DO IT.
Auriana is not pointing a knife on your throat asking you "BUY MY TOMESTONE OR DIE".
she doesn't give a damn about you.
she's the Emma Frost of Eorzea.

It's very simple really... Your magic pockets that seem to be able to hold just about anything of any size just can't fit more tomestones of mythology...
Cram in more and you will break the dimensional walls and enter the void and disappear from the face of Eorzea forever.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

Yeah I mean, if we were allowed to pre-load 13500 Myth, why not allow the dungeons, fates, and monsters for Animus book to be done before you can actually buy a trials book:confused:

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That makes no sense, I didn't say I could pre kill hydra/chimera/primals/Amdapor keep so why would I even think to assume I could pre-do the books, i'm just saying the time needed to obtain and buy the books is the biggest sink in the entire questline and is not justifiable to a new job in any means and even more so when the next teir of weaponry comes out in 2.4 and the new job Ninja can immediately step into an i110 soldiery weapon with pre-obtained soldiery tokens and allagan tomestone.

Although there is always the chance since those books were deemed worthless by the npc and they just decided to rip you off for 1500 myth each that Yoshi could just remove the cost to buy books entirely in 2.4 but that's speculative. I have no problem with any of the content in the entire questline other than the needless myth grind to get the books currently. Which I believe could be alleviated somewhat by allowing people to farm myth without having to detach from a good hunt/speed run party to buy the book complete the book and then get back to farming myth.

Chances are myth will be abolished in 2.4 like philo in 2.2.
Going by precedent the exchange rate would be 4:1 meaning 375 soldiery per book with 2.4.
By then soldiery weekly cap will be removed, and if you have 2000 myth, those can be converted to 500 soldiery.

At 375 sold/book, you can have enough sold for 5 books before you reach cap.

Other exchange rates are possible as well of course, with other scalings. Like 5:1 for 300sold/book...

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

yeah spending them on things you don't want is a great idea.

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Well if you don't want to waste them on things you don't want, stop complaining and embrace the cap...

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Originally Posted by ZephyrAM

I feel the cap is specifically in place to primarily prevent the transfer of more then 2k myth into soldiery once it goes the way of philo tomes

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Bingo. if Myth was uncapped, i would store like 50k and go instant i100 on all my off jobs come 2.4

you would also be able to go nuts on Soldiery craft items when they release them.

they don't want us to be able to do either of those things.

Speaking of philo, will the philo quantity ever be removed? Annoys me that it's stuck at 0 forever.

I read every comment and realized that most people just come to troll and just talk something like"simple,go use it" or "you don't have 10 sec to use it?" Ok, if their put cap in gil like 10,000,000? SIMPLE! GO USE IT AND CAP AGAIN! but i know, this community FF is cursed ... I know there are several people who actually think in helping (like several people here helped me) i need say THANK YOU for all! I do not want you to accept what I say ... just wanted you to see the GOOD side and the downside to remove! this game is already full of restrictions and you guys just love it ... then do not come complaining in other posts later.

PS: bad english, i'm portuguese.

Just a question... in 2.4 mytho will be removed? o.O

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Originally Posted by EternityFate

Just a question... in 2.4 mytho will be removed? o.O

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It's an assumption based on the fact Philo was removed in 2.2 when the new coil tier was released. They are assuming the same will happen again this time with Myth when the next coil tier is introduced in 2.4.

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Originally Posted by EternityFate

Just a question... in 2.4 mytho will be removed? o.O

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yes, they already said that. that's also why they put the myth equipment on the list of things to buy for Allied Seals so that when they remove myths you can still get them for glamours.

When I get 800 myth I immediately spend it now. Why are you capping out myth OP? Before I got Animus I spent my myth as soon as I got 1500 too.

Greetings,

We currently have no plans to increase the Allagan tomestone of mythology cap. We’d ask that you please keep an eye on the number of tomestones you possess and purchase items before you reach the limit.

go start your novus and then you can spend them on maps. even after you completed your novus you can still spend them on maps for other relic updgrades