Increase of hunt mob HP is just a bandaid.

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Originally Posted by Sygmaelle

Coils is a mindless farm when you got mechanics down aswell

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Not really, and not comparable at all because you still have to execute those mechanics and skills.

This hunt stuff isn't a issue. Sure its new content and players are rushing to clear it. Once people have enough sands & oil this content will die out and Crystal tower rewards for sands & oil will come out. I'm already pretty much done with Sands & Oil & Minions. Give it 3rd or 4th week and mostly everyone will have this done. Top endgame free companies are using 3rd party programs sure... but they will stop soon since they are maxed out soon. Don't worry they will be banned at the start of the new month.

There's a lack of reward from hunts when your done with your sands & oil. Grand Company stuff is way overpriced & stats on it are weak.

As of the Hunt Books. There design wasn't well done at all. They need to fix it.

Its still a not even 5 mins fight for Rafflesia, and not even 10 mins for everything else until turn 9.

I mean what is beein done here is the exact same thing than they did before with the first coils of bahamut / myth gear.

You could get it all with just myth tomes while not dealin at all with Coils, here well its the infinite allied seals that are coupled with soldiery tomes that are the timelocked factor sayin "hey, you cant have it all right now".

I mean the hunts as of right now only profit to the players that couldnt really do the Scob until 2.3 and wanted the 110 gear. They are still people catchin up, and people far ahead. For min maxers you still need that HA, and the best weapon for your job is still in Turn 9 aswell that will never change.

Also the time invested is the same. It take a lot of time to get one sand. Thats the only thing that matters, skill involved or not just doesnt count.

If you re really that special just go get these titles already, so far only 6 groups downed T6 savage

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Originally Posted by Sygmaelle

Its still a not even 5 mins fight for Rafflesia, and not even 10 mins for everything else until turn 9.

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Lol yea try telling that to the average PF group on my server who's still trying to get turn 6 down.
(and let's not even go into the poor souls still trying to clear turn 5)
Not everyone can clear 2nd coil, but anyone & everyone can spam flash and flare for a day and have a piece of gear without any effort.

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

Lol yea try telling that to the average PF group on my server who's still trying to get turn 6 down.
(and let's not even go into the poor souls still trying to clear turn 5)
Not everyone can clear 2nd coil, but anyone & everyone can spam flash and flare for a day and have a piece of gear without any effort.

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what about the people still stuck on Titan ex?

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Originally Posted by Beetle

what about the people still stuck on Titan ex?

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Luckily you don't need to do Titan Extreme anymore to get to Leviathan/Moogle Mog.

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Originally Posted by Beetle

what about the people still stuck on Titan ex?

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Those people are probably stuck on Moogle Mog ex now

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Originally Posted by Qwag

Pretty soon most ppl will have all their sands and oils for their main, like me. And will go back to other content. The hunts will stop being insain. Soon ppl will be crying about how they don't have enough ppl to kill melt or marberry. Just watch I give it a month.

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Incorrect. Once people have all they want, they'll start "selling mark kills". Saw spam for it on my server last night.

It is seriously not working...

It could work, if everyone is friendly and helping and don't mind waiting for others. The main issue SE keep forgetting when making content is, they are making it for Human Beings.

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

How can they be easily banned? Some people who lag also look like they are "teleporting" and if I saw someone like that what proof do I have that they are teleport hacking and not actually server disconnecting? And for all I know someone could teleport into some bush near me and then run out and I'd never know that they used this hack because to me it just looks like they ran over normally. And let's say it's not the teleport hacks - there's still the radar users and there is no way to prove they're using it unless you go into Coerthas and name your chocobo "Naul" to literally get them to come over to you.

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You're just taking an extreme (and probably ficticious) case and running with it full throttle. The teleport glitch sets off alarm bells now, that's why you don't see it as much. It's plainly DETECTABLE it doesn't need to be reported. This is why it's so rare to see. Though you're just going ahead like people are using it constantly as long as they're not reported.

Also I've seen a lot of talk about people naming their Chocobo "Naul" but not a single youtube of it, I mean it'd be an easy and funny enough thing to do.

My problem with the 'hunt critics' this whole time has been the propensity to run wild with any kind of speculation to criticize the system (which definitely is flawed and has problems). I mean you'd need to hit almost every A rank spawn in the world twice to get your sand, it's certainly not hard but trying to pass off like most people are going to be rolling in the gear is a bit much. I mean we've jumped to "well some people are using radar" to "linkshells of organized people are using radar" to "people are using the teleportation glitch". I'm sure soon people will be complaining about someone getting 4 Sands a day.

I think they could do a lot improvement with the system but I don't we're gonna find that while we're acknowledging every every rumor and speculation as if it's truth.

I know people who have 5 or more sands already. Never underestimate the hardcore grind people.

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Originally Posted by Kagari_Asuha

I know people who have 5 or more sands already. Never underestimate the hardcore grind people.

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Well this is disappointing I'm only missing 2 lvl 100 gear pieces and I was hoping to find a 2nd coil group to start getting item lvl 110 equipment and took my a while to get all that gear, now if I got to all the big cities I can see a lot of people with all the 110 item lvl gear already and this patch has been out for a week and a half. So it looks that for SE it's better mindless grinding that to actual finish raid content in order to get the best gear. I don't like grinding that It's why I left WoW because of the annoying dailies that had to be done just to purchase gear, but at least the best gear was only available trough raids. Idk anymore I feel that if I continue playing I'll be wasting my time.

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

Lol yea try telling that to the average PF group on my server who's still trying to get turn 6 down.
(and let's not even go into the poor souls still trying to clear turn 5)
Not everyone can clear 2nd coil, but anyone & everyone can spam flash and flare for a day and have a piece of gear without any effort.

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Yeah and ? Before you had to farm amdapor / wanderer palace ad nauseam and these weren't quite the challenge in any way too. Besides the only pieces you can gear that are meaningfull with hunts are .... myth ones.

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Originally Posted by Sygmaelle

Yeah and ? Before you had to farm amdapor / wanderer palace ad nauseam and these weren't quite the challenge in any way too. Besides the only pieces you can gear that are meaningfull with hunts are .... myth ones.

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AK and WP took a decent amount of effort back in the day. No offense but comparing those to the effort you have to put into hunts is simply wrong on so many levels.

yeah i posted a hunt complaint earlier today as well.i see so many complaints about the hunting system i assume at one point its gonna be rehauled and then by then its to late everyone moved on ? eh well you all have fun and do what chu do imma go findme a beeer and a movie and call it a day o.o

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Originally Posted by Kagari_Asuha

AK and WP took a decent amount of effort back in the day. No offense but comparing those to the effort you have to put into hunts is simply wrong on so many levels.

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Wrong, both were dungeons beein absolutely facerolled.

Good write-up, OP, +1'd. As someone who has over 10 T9 kills, the current state of the game makes me want to not even log in at all. It's not the fact people are catching up without raiding, it's the rate at which it happens. People are capping soldiery with the hunts. Getting their Animus/Novus Mythology with the hunts. Everything is just fucking hunts. It's not easy to ignore either, as the chatting about it takes place in literally all areas, all chats, it's just so upsetting at this point to be reminded of the radar-using zergers everywhere, who QQ/badmouth everyone publicly all the time.

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Originally Posted by Tranquil

Good write-up, OP, +1'd. As someone who has over 10 T9 kills, the current state of the game makes me want to not even log in at all. It's not the fact people are catching up without raiding, it's the rate at which it happens. People are capping soldiery with the hunts. Getting their Animus/Novus Mythology with the hunts. Everything is just fucking hunts. It's not easy to ignore either, as the chatting about it takes place in literally all areas, all chats, it's just so upsetting at this point to be reminded of the radar-using zergers everywhere, who QQ/badmouth everyone publicly all the time.

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What's the problem and link with T9 kills? I too have killed T9 and reached i110 before Patch 2.3 and all these hunts. Does it matter if people catch up? Doesn't bother me, good for them that they are getting gears. I just care for myself and reach out for my own goals, such as farming vanity gears and stuff for alternate jobs.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

What's the problem and link with T9 kills?

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I mentioned it to preface the fact I don't mind people catching up to i110, as some people who are in the priviledged situation of farming SCoB don't like the idea that their speshul i110 e-peen is taken away from them. That part of my post wasn't as relevant as the part coming thereafter. The incentivization is not really balanced here, though I guess it's to be expected during a catch-up phase preceeding the next major patch. Again, the reasons the hunts put me off are more tied to how it makes the community act, ie. the latter part of my post. It's like there's nothing going for the game except the hunts right now. The system in itself has flaws as the OP mentions in the OP.

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Originally Posted by Jakeson

I bet you're fun to hang out with... Two completely different threads. The one you are referring to simply states his experience whereas this one offers suggestions and insight

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No offense, but he can hang out with me anytime, he's just being blunt, and he's got a point.

Hunts, band-aids notwithstanding, are a mess, you get your credit or you don't, hopefully they tweak them some more but if they don't ill manage.

Follow the crowd, say nothing, don't pull first.