Grand Companies Win/Loss Chances

Primal, Maelstrom, most wins were with a full premade.

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On primal Adders are god awful. Nobody ever listens. Maelstrom always wins.

Maelstrom has DEFINITELY been on a losing streak this week. I'd start running with premades but it always takes so long when I queue as a group. :(

The weekend wasn't too bad.. won every 4-5 matches.. but today has been dreadful. Not helping that most matches I've been in we start like 5-6 players short.. not to mention last match there were at least 2 afk.

I wouldn't take the win ratios too seriously... If you guys did not know yet... You can leave a game and not have a loss. So anytime you are about to lose you can just leave and avoid the recorded loss... pretty stupid idea on SE's part imo...

Leaving any in progress game should always give you third place... it's not like if you do get disconnected you can't get back in... or if you seriously had a power outage, take one loss... shouldn't be that common to have that many power/internet problems everyday.

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Originally Posted by SolRising

I wouldn't take the win ratios too seriously... If you guys did not know yet... You can leave a game and not have a loss. So anytime you are about to lose you can just leave and avoid the recorded loss... pretty stupid idea on SE's part imo...

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Did not know this - pretty lame for sure. Going to be funny if SE releases 'rankings' with this issue in-place.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Maelstrom just wins wins wins no matter what, it’s sea swallows all and I can never get enough…

*Ahem*...Apologies for that outburst of totally biased Grand Company patriotism!

Speaking of wins and losses during PvP matches, have you ever received a bit more PvP experience points or Wolf Marks than usual after a Frontline battle concludes?

Well, if the Grand Company you belong to continues to rank at third place, a multiplier will be added to both PvP experience points and Wolf Marks and this will build up to a certain amount for each player.

So if you weren’t sure why sometimes you were receiving higher amounts of these than normal, it’s because of this multiplier. Once your Grand Company ranks at first place the multiplier will reset, but the bonus will be applied for that round.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

Camate…always bragging about Maelstrom’s dominance, while I am just sitting in Frontline like, “Maybe we should go center everyone? >.>; OH! Never mind the enemy just captured our only flag. Q_Q”

Excuse my Frontline bitterness, I am a sore loser. Hope everyone is enjoying PvP and congratulations to all the players who earned their mounts! One hundred wins is quite the achievement.

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I look at you two and think "Odd couple."

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Originally Posted by JonFarron

On primal Adders are god awful. Nobody ever listens. Maelstrom always wins.

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That's funny, because for Adders I'm currently sitting at 20/20/19 (1st/2nd/3rd)
Didn't ragequit a single of those matches. Why eat the 30 minute penalty when you get rewards out of it anyways?

On the brightside...

At least we're not Flames.

This is slightly off topic, but seems like a good place to ask...I see names for server groups thrown around (Like Primal!), but I have no idea where to find information/names on these server groups.

I ask because I hear a lot of talk about the Flames' low win rate, but I'm a flame and my 1st place rate is holding at a respectable 40%. So I imagine I'm on a different server group. I know which other servers I'm connected to, but I don't know how to determine what that group's name is. Thank you for any info!

Oh and... FOR COIN AND COUNTRY!

I really, really, really think it's all about the time of day and the group you are matched with... and, of course, how well they communicate with each other! By this point, strategies are established (although a lot of the better groups are very good at being reactive). So, you really just have to hope you get matched up with people who are really serious about winning. I've had days where the Adders got third place constantly, and then I've had times where they won six matches in a row by a large margin until I decided I was done playing for the day. It is true that 'premades' or at least partial premades will likely do better, if only because they're more communicative with each other.

In other words, I don't think there's a 'general trend' of a better group. Although, if you are playing and notice that your team isn't doing well and isn't very receptive to strategizing... and you lose multiple times in a row... it might just be a bad time to do frontlines for your GC and you should try again later. No one loves losing over and over again.

Maelstorm wins like 90% of the time on Hyperion, because we are awesome.

Hyperion, Primal data center, Twin Adders:
Campaigns:59
First Place:17 (Victory Rate: 28.8%)
Second Place:22 (Victory Rate: 37.2%)
Third Place:20 (Victory Rate: 33.8%)

So Akira is right, maelstrom pretty much dominates since frontlines' inception; apparently the Japanese have talked about it. :P
@wellfooled, here's a list of the data centers: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/worldstatus/

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Originally Posted by Koltik

Primal, Maelstrom, most wins were with a full premade.

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As an Adder on Leviathan, I can back up your claims all too well. A lot of people switched to maelstrom and I think we lost some of our better PVPers. :(

If you aren't a member of the Maelstrom, you're doing something wrong anyway.

It all about the Twin Adders :D

I seem to have varying luck in FL in that Adders are usually 1st, then if we're not 1st were almost always 3rd but hardly ever 2nd lol

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Originally Posted by Shakespeare

As an Adder on Leviathan, I can back up your claims all too well. A lot of people switched to maelstrom and I think we lost some of our better PVPers. :(

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Yea I've never understood those peoples mentality. That to me says you only have fun if you win. Constantly winning means the competition isn't up to par, so how fun can that possibly be? Lol Just stay with your Grand Company and build a good premade to fight the opposing forces :D Its not like the rewards are good for anything.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Maelstrom just wins wins wins no matter what, it’s sea swallows all and I can never get enough…

*Ahem*...Apologies for that outburst of totally biased Grand Company patriotism!

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It's okay Camate, no need to apologize for stating the obvious :)

And on topic, on aether Maelstrom seems to normally get 1st or 2nd most of the time, though I have to admit that there are a TON of people who just refuse to communicate in any way, dragging us down... AND I've been noticing we've been having an anti-Storm alliance. Adders+Flames running the map picking off the Storms and taking flags where they can.

Till Sea Swallow All!

Seems to be a split, I'm in adder and we've won a lot, but there have been those games where we just can't come together and get rolled on my Maelstrom.

Need more bandwagon juimpers to go join Maelstrom and bring their ques to a crawl please.

I think the bracket I'm in is the opposite, people seem to be joining Adders. My fc mate takes forever to get into the matches where the other two GC's seem to take far less time. Though people are about to switch to IF I guess with the winning streak they've been having. 10 matches today Maelstrom has won once ... starting off with like 5 plus short is hurting.

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Originally Posted by Isaccard

Need more bandwagon juimpers to go join Maelstrom and bring their ques to a crawl please.

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:( ,too late , queues have been increasing it sucks....

I jumped to twin adders and well, its pretty godawful in pug. That said pres know what they are doin, I'd say that in a pure organised game Adders are actually pretty superior on the pure combat part

In Leviathans Data Center, Maelstrom was the top dog for a week. Then everyone learned Maelstrom was the best and jumped ship. Now Maelstrom is full of drooling idiots. But for that first week, out of 200 matches, win percentages were 50%, 30%, 20% for first second and third.

At least I got my War horse before it became so awful.

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Originally Posted by Coltvoyance

In Leviathans Data Center, Maelstrom was the top dog for a week.

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I gauge the population of each Grand Company by checking the Grand Company Flag on the market board. On Levithan, Malestorm flag is selling for 15,000, Immortal Flame flag is selling for $25,000, but Twin Adders is $65,000.

By taking assumption of rarity of Twin Adders flag, I assume Twin Adders is quite small and Malestorm is the biggest. You know, bigger you are, messy you are as a PuG.

Well, I have done a few frontlines and we ended in 3rth place 2 times, after that it has ben 1st place every game. I'm in Malestorm on Hyperion and I did noticed that the queue waiting time has been incresing. :(

Does Adder ever win on Primal? Every game is either Maelstrom pain train or slow but sure Flame win o.o

Only got 6 wins out of 50 matches with Adder. Got double the wins in Maelstrom with less matches.

Just seems like the adders suck from my view. I wish they didn't because I like them the most.

Flames is god awful in Primal. Almost all 3rd place losses today. SE should really eliminate the GC affliation requirement. Every halfway decent pvper has already swapped to Maelstrom or Adders at this point, I swear.

The Immortal Flames have been doing pretty well on Aether.
My ratio so far:

93 Campaigns
1st Place: 43
2nd Place: 23
3rd Place: 22

Usually these happen in batches, depending on the people queuing. So we'll get multiple 1st in a row, multiple 2nd in a row, etc etc. I've noticed we tend to do the best in the early afternoon.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd literally queued for 6 hours after the "emergency maintenance" and no frontlines. Took a break and tonight we're up to another 1.5 hours...
Adders apparently just quit on Primal.

http://i.imgur.com/1qa2FPp.jpg
Here is mine, Im in Twin Adder - Tonberry

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We're going down D:

I think im taking a break till the weekend, que times are dreadful >_< especially waiting the 2-3 hours just to lose .. no let me rephrase that .. to be stomped. Had someone in the last match I was in wearing white items.. and level 44 gear..

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Originally Posted by Rosekitten

I think im taking a break till the weekend, que times are dreadful >_< especially waiting the 2-3 hours just to lose .. no let me rephrase that .. to be stomped. Had someone in the last match I was in wearing white items.. and level 44 gear..

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I recommand you to simply re-que if you are seeing timer goes beyond 10 mins. The chance is you got bugged.

Can confirm the quality of maelstorm players has recently went downhill. I hate GC hoppers.

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Malestrom
Primal Data Server
80% Premade 20% Soloque

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Originally Posted by Yotsu

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We're going down D:

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You guys are pettry heavy to carry most of the time, with my premade its like 99% win but solo or with 4 ppl you guys are almost impossible to carry because some ppl cant even listen to basic orders( still see ppl in inmortal flames wearing pvp gear almost everymatch i see a couple hahaha),sometimes you see 2 whole partys of Inmortal flames at heliodrone and they cant even get a single Drone hahaha.

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Originally Posted by Cero0

some ppl cant even listen to basic orders sometimes you see 2 whole partys of Inmortal flames at heliodrone and they cant even get a single Drone hahaha.

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Oh god I don't know what's wrong with most people in our cluster. First week was pretty good and I remember ending up with you Cero a few times. And overall I won 70-80% going solo. But after the first week it's like all the dumb players started to get in... There are waaay too many people going mid when they shouldn't and the group that should go mid is always way too slow and attacks enemies instead of drones or camps in mid when there are no drones up.

Giving directions to the alliance rarely works either because 90% of the players just don't listen. Even giving directions to the group you are in is often pointless. Even if remind your group a multiple times about mid no one shows up.

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Originally Posted by Yotsu

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We're going down D:

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I usually get top dps across all 3 nations, and we'll still manage to lose because people just... don't want to listen and/or learn... always the most inexperienced/horrid players in frontlines that argues too :)

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102k Dps / 15 kills... 4 flags captured = Lose... Games like these are the reason why I hardly play Frontlines now...2-5 games a day.






Sure I've had some wins... but a lot of the games we lose, we should have won, Uldah just simply manages to throw the games away to just go in to collect their tomes...Confrimed too! I asked :)

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Originally Posted by SolRising

I usually get top dps across all 3 nations, and we'll still manage to lose because people just... don't want to listen and/or learn... always the most inexperienced/horrid players in frontlines that argues too :)


102k Dps / 15 kills... 4 flags captured = Lose... Games like these are the reason why I hardly play Frontlines now...2-5 games a day.






Sure I've had some wins... but a lot of the games we lose, we should have won, Uldah just simply manages to throw the games away to just go in to collect their tomes...Confrimed too! I asked :)

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When i play Dps i usually get over 80k-120k even when i move around the whole map with my group, but that doesnt mean anything coz its a team work pvp, most of the time ppl never listen and when u try to give them tips they flame you lol, thats why i stopped trying to lead the games over a week ago after i got my mount, just dont like that ppl :3

PD: sometimes you send 2 full groups for a single Flag market or temple( coz there is no way any of them can take a flag with only 8 ppl) Even with 16 ppl they cant take a flag most of the time, thats how bad players in inmortal flames are xD, but oh well atleast i have fun tryharding with my group lol