Low level roulette?

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

Sorry, some of us want to play with our friends and don't have four players to fill a light party...

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Then set up a PF group to fill the other two spots or make more friends XD

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Originally Posted by Vallug

Adding onto that though. I have a new friend who started playing who does not understand why I cannot queue up with her when she does the low level routette after she gets to 15. She is playing to play with me so she does not find it as enjoyable to not be able to queue up with me. Yes I get it is RANDOM. But I see it more as RANDOM in choice of dungeon. I would rather have low level duty roulette be able to party up than expert or high level. The option for the player should be there. We should not be gated just cause.

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Its a once a day bonus for HELPING other players. You will rarely, if ever, get a Dungeon in your own level range even when using the LL DR for an alt job above 30.
You and you friend wont lose anything by not doing it.

It is mind boggling that they don't allow grouping for lowbie roulette.

My only theory is, they are worried about people in groups of 4 from their FC/LS running every single day, thus shrinking the job/class/player pool for new players to que with, which would completely undermine the entire point and conception of the roulette. (Give high level players an excuse to que up via reward, to push newer players through older content)

With that said, I find it incredibly annoying that I have to do mine separate from my partner. We run almost everything together (when allowed) and it would be awesome if we could kill 2birds with one stone, obtaining our daily reward, and playing together.

A simple solution would be to not allow full 4man parties to que up for any 4man roulette although I don't see it happening soon (If at all) as this is most likely more complex than it sounds.

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Originally Posted by Vallug

WoW lets premade queue for daily dungeon runs this was one thing I do hate about the system on ff14. Me and my friend use low level to exp run for our other classes and we enjoy running dungeons together, Really is not cool that we have to not party.

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I agree - all this doom and gloom people are predicting are largely from people who have no idea where these systems originated and how the growing pains have already been reported, sorted, and dealt with. There's no reason not to allow people to queue as a party if they want to play a random dungeon together. It's not going to add to queue times, because it doesn't add or take away people from being in the queue. If three people are going to queue, how does it matter whether they filter into three different parties or they fill one party? It's still one tank, one heal, one dps (or whatever the makeup ends up as).

This is just one of those things that arbitrarily forces you to NOT play an mmo with your friends. TOO MUCH emphasis is placed on playing with strangers in this game and I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by Souljacker

I agree - all this doom and gloom people....

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While I agree with most of what you said It does actually shrink the pool or at least the possible projected pool. For every +1 person that enters with a friend is -1 possibility that they will enter to que and have a chance to help out a new player and if that's four players in a premade that is -4 possibilities of helping newer players. At least with a three man group you would have the possibility of helping 1 new person, this is all assuming you actually get teamed with a new person in the group. Lets be honest here, most people would not even que for this if there was not a reward in the first place. (Unless leveling)

I agree that you should be able to que for low level roulette as a party, I generally just que for specific dungeons with fc/friends for the time being and exp is still pretty good but it's nice to get that daily bonus as well. I'm hoping that eventually all of the friend gates they have put up disappear, they're slowly moving in that direction with the high lvl/expert roulette and with the coming of premade alliances which will be nice but I really don't like it when you're not able to do certain content with friends, duty roulette included.

just let them group with NO bonus at all...

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Originally Posted by Jotaku

just let them group with NO bonus at all...

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this would be ok
Solo - 100% roulete bonus
2 or 3 members - 50% roulette bonus
4 members - 0% roulette bonus

How many times does it need to be said? LOW LEVEL ROULETTE IS NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS TO FARM! There are a million other options for friends to choose from, leave low lv roulette for newbs.

In my opinion, I think they should open up low level roulette to a max group of 3 people so at least one low-level/newbie is always being helped with their dungeon.

Also, keep the low level roulette bonus permanent rather than only once a day. This allows low-level/newbie to always have a constant flux of experienced people to help out and this allows the experienced people to have other methods to farm myth other than mythflox.

And to punish the experienced people from leaving "unwanted" low level dungeons, make it so once they leave the duty, they are no longer eligible for the roulette bonus for that day.

The roulette is a ONCE A DAY bonus... You can't run ONE dungeon separate from your significant other? Complete your roulettes separately and spend the time (if you're in the same room) talking about each others' runs. Trust me if they did this all the 50s would queue in 4s (most of my FC runs High and Expert in 4-man premades). If you think this won't impact queue times you're clueless. I typically roulette specifically on tank for the faster queue times. If I was queuing premade for low level I'd likely roll DRG. This is -2 tanks (at least) and a healer from the queue that would have filled groups with low level DPS that were already waiting awhile. Partial premades cause a problem because if they become the trend it dilutes the number of solo queuers making it difficult to actually FILL the partials especially if the group is DPS-DPS.