Combat GC restrictions in frontlines

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Originally Posted by TokyieRage

-To allow the ability to play with friends in a MMORPG

1. Allow you temporary GC status of whoever the party leader is that is queueing for frontlines.

2. Make frontlines FC based off grand company affiliation

3. Remove the PVP rank reset penalty for changing grand companies

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1. that might help, But breaks the lore of affiliating with a GC
2. so that means Immortal flames will be screwed. just look at their residential wards. Most Malestrom wards are full, Immortal Flames have maybe two wards full. (based off a quick look at Behemoth server)
3. that might be more reasonable. But i would add, possibly restricting it in some way other than pvp rank changes. Something to stop people from flooding one GC over another.

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Originally Posted by Geracia2

1. that might help, But breaks the lore of affiliating with a GC
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Yes, lets damage PvP because of "lore"...
And what lore it is, such immersion you get for fighting for your allegiance.. which you can switch every two weeks ROFL.

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Originally Posted by Pibz

Yes, lets damage PvP because of "lore"...
And what lore it is, such immersion you get for fighting for your allegiance.. which you can switch every two weeks ROFL.

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Exactly, How many people actually care about the Lore in PvP? Lets get real.

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Originally Posted by TokyieRage

Exactly, How many people actually care about Real PvP? Let's wintrade.

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My biggest issue with this is the real world time restriction for switching between companies. I can deal with each company having its ranks, seals, etc. separate but let me switch between them as I want to.

Oh and the glamour restrictions on GC gear is a bit annoying tbh.

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Originally Posted by Pibz

Yes, lets damage PvP because of "lore"...
And what lore it is, such immersion you get for fighting for your allegiance.. which you can switch every two weeks ROFL.

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so whats your take on anything else, other than complaining about a system you haven't tried yet?

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Originally Posted by Geracia2

so whats your take on anything else, other than complaining about a system you haven't tried yet?

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What?
I don't need to try an idea out to know its bad , i would think this would be fairly obvious and common sense.
The sole fact that you can't play with whoever you want makes it a bad idea on its own, add to that the possible imbalances, between gc populations therefore affecting queue times for example, to come from this.
What you have failed to point out is the gains for this, besides "lore".
Finally not here to talk about anything else besides the thread topic, and in case you haven't noticed most people who participated in this thread found this a bad idea too, so.. yeah.

Just don't make us lose our pvp level if we switch GC. Solved. Good Job.

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Originally Posted by Geracia2

12. so that means Immortal flames will be screwed. just look at their residential wards. Most Malestrom wards are full, Immortal Flames have maybe two wards full. (based off a quick look at Behemoth server)

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The Wards do not show what FC is affiliated to what. My FC is Flames affiliated with a home in Lavender Beds. That point is invalid.

Bump.
Get rid of restriction SE please.

Leave it like it is please.

I'm am Adder but I really REALLY want to switch to Immortal Flames, but my sole reason for not doing it is because of the fact that it resets your rank. :< I understand having to start from scratch in your new GC and all, but the PVP ranks are already something you worked hard for so having to have it reset just to play with friends is not cool.

Please let me play with my FC friends at the least.

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Originally Posted by SolarMisae

I'm am Adder but I really REALLY want to switch to Immortal Flames, but my sole reason for not doing it is because of the fact that it resets your rank.

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The rank is just a number. There is essentially nothing different you can do at rank 40 that you can't as a rank 1. I swapped from Adder to Maelstrom and other than not having the enhanced abilities at the start, it wasn't a problem at all and even then i ranked up so fast at the beginning that it didnt take much time to get some good starter pvp points in.

make the switch from adder to flames...lost my rank and pvp gear

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Originally Posted by Nalien

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Off topic but does anyone knows where the article from this picture is found? the one with all the stats and if there is a new one out. Been trying to find it for a couple days but to no avail.

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Originally Posted by Gor

The rank is just a number. There is essentially nothing different you can do at rank 40 that you can't as a rank 1. I swapped from Adder to Maelstrom and other than not having the enhanced abilities at the start, it wasn't a problem at all and even then i ranked up so fast at the beginning that it didnt take much time to get some good starter pvp points in.

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You lose all your upgraded ability's what are you talking about? You start back at Rank 1, as do the points you put into your abilitys. I dont buy the you ranked up so fast....Ive seen the mealstrom Queue times.

The other problem with the the GC is that some peoples queues are taking forever, open it up so people can actually play.

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Originally Posted by Gor

The rank is just a number. There is essentially nothing different you can do at rank 40 that you can't as a rank 1. I swapped from Adder to Maelstrom and other than not having the enhanced abilities at the start, it wasn't a problem at all and even then i ranked up so fast at the beginning that it didnt take much time to get some good starter pvp points in.

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You lose PVP ability points. And if you happen to be wearing i100 pvp gear, that also.

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Originally Posted by amandakali

You lose all your upgraded ability's what are you talking about? You start back at Rank 1, as do the points you put into your abilitys.

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I am aware that you lose your upgraded abilities but you still get the basic versions of all of them which are still fine, the most important of them all being the defensive skills like Equanimity, Sacred Prism, Testudo, Purify and Attunement and offensive ones being Full Swing, Axe Kick, Blast Shot and Weapon Throw and a few others. Sure you won't get a fast recast on skills, 30 more increased potency, farther ranges or a 5 second longer duration, or whatever other upgrades you get, but those upgrades are amenities, not the rule. those are nice additions but it ain't like back in early Wolves' Den days when they didn't give them to us at all and we had to earn them or you just got merked every match because you didnt have enough skill points for Purify or Attunement yet.

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Originally Posted by amandakali

I dont buy the you ranked up so fast....Ive seen the mealstrom Queue times.

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I ranked up from r17 to r40 in about a week or so, and got my Warhorse mount in the first week, because I did it the first week of Frontlines release when queues were back to back and Maelstrom was winning back to back as well. Easy mode. Trying to do that now? Probably not so much depending on what datacenter and gc you're on. from what i read on forums, some people are still getting less than 10 minute queues which is still good, and some people on my server say they still get 10min or less queues on Adder.

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Originally Posted by Logo

And if you happen to be wearing i100 pvp gear, that also.

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True, but its not the optimal gear in Frontlines anyways so you won't be wearing it (unless you just want to risk a decrease in some stats just to show it off) and if you're concerned about also not being able to do 50s Wolves' Den, there's i80 Lvl Sync 50s Wolves' Den for that.

All ya'll are worried about is eye-candy and nothing that essentially is gameplay hindering; you still get your basic skills and you can do i80 sync WD and FL for max XP so no, there isn't anything thats excruciatingly different from r40 to r1 anymore. SE knew what they were doing when they put the swap penalty on there and I think its fair AND ya'll are forgetting you're getting a megaton of XP at the same time. When I was Adder it took me two months of getting 30, 50 and 100 XP per game playing all day. now if you start off at rank 0, you get at least r4 right off rip just for doing ONE FL game. boom that's one skill you can buy. AND you got your challenge logs that give you even more XP.

The whole point is the Queues for some GC are stupid Long and unnecessary, easily fixed by removing the GC restrictions and just let people play.

Nothing like sitting in queue for 30 mins then playing one match for 10-15 mins and your 1 hr you had to play is gone..

Lose it, its unneeded and unnecessary.

I can see how playing frontlines without a GC restriction is a good idea, because it stops the bad players jumping ship to a winning gc and getting carried, or just having that gc now lose all the time. If they wanted to do something like that my idea is make a 16 v 16 v 16 frontlines for non restrictive gc (smaller arena as frontlines). For the grand company I don't know how the system really works that detrimines a 24, 48, and 72 man q but make it so you get 24/48 more often. I really love gc vs gc vs gc, and if there is no gc restriction the premades are going to be so overpowered, and if this does become a thing I'm going to slam my face into a brick wall if people complain about the premades in a non gc restrictive game.