The community made me leave

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Originally Posted by Wulfyn

lol Perfect examples in the replies that also transfer in game, of why some players say the community for this FF is bad. Welcome to a WoWified FF I suppose.

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Everyone seems to think that their community is bad in their MMO but here's the thing: It's like that in every single MMO. So please, leave the WoW stereotype crap back in 2008 where it belongs.

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Originally Posted by Morzy

Transfer to Lamia. I'll try and help you out with the small community of friends I know and love.

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Oh Morzy... :)

WoWified is a term me and my friends use to describe the feel of this FF wether you like it or not. Compared to the community in FFXI and our server, yea this one's bad. Would you rather have us refer to them as Halo kiddies or COD kiddies? A little defensive there about WoW? Face it this FF is WoWified period. Dailies, mounts, glamours, etc. including the poor attitudes and behaviours of other players based on experience with WoW and it's various clones. Never have we encountered such rampant "toxicity" as we have in this FF so far not only in game but in forums too.

The company you keep is the first thing you should look to establish when playing an MMO. I have never had to worry about what the community was like in an MMO because the first thing i do, before worrying about raiding, before worrying about gearing, is finding a group of people who have my common interest and that i can get along with. If your goal is to clear content and get loot. Don't chase those first, chase a solid group of people, they exist and will lead to what you want. And if you are someone who finds themselves constantly bouncing from group to group and have trouble getting along with numerous communities there's a secret i'd like to give. It's you, you're the problem, not the community.

I think part of the problem this first year was alot were rushing to end game / cap battleclasses that other's who were not in that rush are basically left behind. That said, someone could be hitting their 1st 50 and not quite geared up yet as good as they can be. They may be new to a dungeon/raid but it does seem no one wants to explain and usually want to rush through. Which in the end tends to having the new player being berated overtly harshly instead of mentored. No patience most of the time. I agree about if a player seemingly bounces around that perhaps it is them, but at the same time the fact of what does go on and the frequency that it does by other players on a daily basis can not be ignored. That is just my experience and observations when it comes to FFXIV-ARR so far. I rarely experienced problems with players in FFXI all the years I played it than I have had so far in this FF. Basically depends on your server then on up to the community.

There are only 3 communities a player will ever have to deal with in this game.
Your server's community
The forum's community
The small pvp community
2/3 are optional that being forum and pvp as you get to choose to be a part of.
So technically a better title in general would be like the community is terrible here and it makes me want to switch servers. I should have put that on my old thread lol but that's the past so whatever.

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Originally Posted by Wulfyn

Compared to the community in FFXI and our server, yea this one's bad. Face it this FF is WoWified period. Dailies, mounts, glamours, etc. including the poor attitudes and behaviours of other players based on experience with WoW and it's various clones. Never have we encountered such rampant "toxicity" as we have in this FF so far not only in game but in forums too.

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They drew a bit of inspiration from WoW, but NONE of these things are WoW exclusive...People can say that the community is toxic all the want, and while there are people who act in a toxic manner it isn't as bad as people claim to be. I'm not saying there's any shortage of jerks either...there's more than I'd care to admit. It's just the way people on the forums portray our community...and it's not very accurate. XI's community was much more friendly because of how it was made, and you can't really compare it to XIV, though ours is pretty accepting as well off and on. Also, WoW's community is worse, though such issues exist in every MMO on the market. Been there done that for 5+ years.

I'm not sure why people need to post that they are leaving.

I'm not sorry to see you go and I'm sick of people thinking they are so important that the near 2m other players care, that they can't do something or something doesn't work the way they want it to so they say they are leaving.

If you where really disappointed in the game you would just quit. Come back in a few months to see if it better and if not quit again. But NOOO I NEED EVERYONE TO CARE ABOUT IT, AND KNOWN THE GAME HAS THIS/THESE ISSUES.

The server I'm on has RP LS/FC, The FC I'm in is great not a RP FC, I have 2 LS that are better then any FC and always helping people.

All I can say is
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...le_Dash!!).jpg
If anyone is ever not having fun in a game it's time for them to move on. Say thanks for playing to them and that's about all there is to say.

@ Vahlnir

You are someone I can have discussions with. In the end I just feel more people need to have patience and be helpful. For me helping others is an accomplishment worth achieving. Granted there are some you can never help because they simply will never get what you try to teach them.

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Originally Posted by Wulfyn

@ Vahlnir

You are someone I can have discussions with. In the end I just feel more people need to have patience and be helpful. For me helping others is an accomplishment worth achieving. Granted there are some you can never help because they simply will never get what you try to teach them.

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Yeah, patience is a rare thing, no doubt about that. I feel the same way about helping others. There are plenty of people who are willing to help too, I just think some have given up trying. I know I'm occasionally met with "STFU, don't tell me how to play!"...but I still try. lol We might not be the most common crowd but we're out there :P

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

There are plenty of people who are willing to help too, I just think some have given up trying.

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While I'm new here and don't have much I can help people with yet. This is what other mmo's have beat into me. Don't bother trying to help. Usually when you do you get someone that is going to blow up about it no matter how you word your advice.

Those threads are funny sometimes. I'm playing mmorpgs for years now and this game believe it or not has one of the most friendly communities I have ever seen. Sure there are ****s everywhere and people who don't know how to play or people who think they know how to play and flame you when you try to help them (that kind is the worst lol). Go to League of Legends where in every game you will hear about your mother or your father and all the kind and beautiful words you can imagine and tell me what is a bad commnunity then. I can say about other game's communities too but I don't have the mood to write about all of them. You have to team up with people you know or trust if you want static runs without problems. No the community didn't make you leave. You left because of your own reasons. If you are so good player like you say why you didn't applied to join one of the good FCs of your server? Blaming others is the easy way to go.

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Originally Posted by Gormogon

I kind understand how you feel.

I lost interest in being a guild and raid leader after my first MMO thanks to the community.
It took me 3-4 MMO's to lose interest in being a hardcore end-game player thanks to the community.
After playing all these MMO's I've lost interest in putting up with the drama. It's a pointless cost just to get digital loot. I'd rather take the long boring route and see a slight increase in gear than care about BiS. All thanks to the community.

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You didn't even read his post, did you? LOL.

(Hint: you think you're siding with someone who's sick and tired of elitism, but you're actually doing the opposite.)

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Originally Posted by JTribal

Levi may be your best bet. Isn't that the server Blue Gartr is on?

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BG is on Excal, not that it particularly matters.

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Originally Posted by Keres

You didn't even read his post, did you? LOL.

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You didn't even read my post, did you? LOL.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

Everyone seems to think that their community is bad in their MMO but here's the thing: It's like that in every single MMO. So please, leave the WoW stereotype crap back in 2008 where it belongs.

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Except almost every mmo that's been made for the past 9 or so years has been a carbon copy of WoW including ARR so the WoW stereotype still stands. When the leveling is braindead easy, solo-centric, and too fast the players barely learn how to play properly leading to the stereotypically bad community.

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Originally Posted by Muzetta

Everytime people post something like this I think to myself "Why?". Why leave because the community is bad or consists of assholes? There's many ways to make it so you don't have to deal with them (FC, Linkshells, friends), so make use of them rather than just blame your own laziness to set stuff up on the community.

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Sounded like there quitting not because of Aholes but rather ppl don't play to there liking :P or at least that's what i got and if that's the case quit good bye {i mean i know there are lot's of lvl 50 Aholes in this game but to me you sound a bit stuck up and may just be one of the rude ones anyway}

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Originally Posted by Mogi

if that's the case quit good bye

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The same solution that hurt MMO's especially one that played a major role in 1.0

Yes lets resort to that.

Glad there were some people in this thread willing to help and offer a solution.

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Originally Posted by Gormogon

The same solution that hurt MMO's especially one that played a major role in 1.0

Yes lets resort to that.

Glad there were some people in this thread willing to help and offer a solution.

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Hey if someone can't stand how others play and wanna quit for just that then? why help them? i love trying to help ppl but did you read there reasons for quitting? {everyone is bad they all suck blablabla have fun helping someone like that}

There is a lot to the endgame construct worthy of criticism, in my opinion. One aspect is that SE clearly wants us to commit to regular, unchanging static smallish groups to conquer and farm raids due to the kind of mechanics they use. In saying PUGs are full of less accomplished (i.e. 'bad') players and have proven to be unsatisfactory, well, all I can say is that is how SE intended raiding in this game to be, for better or worse.

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Originally Posted by Mogi

Hey if someone can't stand how others play and wanna quit for just that then? why help them? i love trying to help ppl but did you read there reasons for quitting? {everyone is bad they all suck blablabla have fun helping someone like that}

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He doesn't hate the game that should be enough reason to give him support.

While I live and breath .. Gormogon being reasonable, holy..