Dagger AND Gun Jobs confirmed for Soon after 2.3 - don't fret!

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Originally Posted by Gesser

He's saying we're short a physical ranged attacker, which I agree. I'd think that more important than a third melee dps.

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Compared to zero stealth classes?

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Originally Posted by Khaoticsuccubus

Compared to zero stealth classes?

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Not too long ago I recall Yoshida mentioning that they had to go back and rework one of the classes being announced. Perhaps it was the gun class and the reason for not announcing it yesterday is because they didn't have much to show of it? Maybe we'll get an announcement during tomorrow's live letter with some concept art. Or perhaps he wants to space out the major announcements so that he has something major to show off during big public events; which makes sense because it leaves people wanting more :D

At any rate, the stealth based class will be released, so there should be nothing hindering them from letting them release the gun class after that.

People are just going to have to remain patient.

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Originally Posted by ZReport

People are just going to have to remain patient.

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And therein lies the problem. :) Patience is a rare virtue.

Any candidates or nominations for Guildmaster?

uh literally wtf is a stealth classes point in this game? sneaking past open world mobs that can't possibly kill you? it's a flashy mnk. that's all. 4 years and still waiting.

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Originally Posted by rockso

uh literally wtf is a stealth classes point in this game? sneaking past open world mobs that can't possibly kill you? it's a flashy mnk. that's all. 4 years and still waiting.

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uh literally wtf is a gun classes point in this game?shooting mobs from a long distance? it's a flashy brd. that's all.

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Originally Posted by Moheeheeko

uh literally wtf is a gun classes point in this game?shooting mobs from a long distance? it's a flashy brd. that's all.

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to shoot things? it's the point of a gun class. can you explain how "stealth" has any place in this game?

I honestly am not even gonna argue. from this thread you are still cleaning your keyboard from the "stealth" class announcement.

but seriously since you're super hype explain to me what the point of stealth is and what it does for the current dungeons bosses etc etc.

also bard isn't a DPS class it's support with DPS abilities. if you DPS so hard you forget to do your actual job. you should stop playing bard.

First of all

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I honestly am not even gonna argue.

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then why are you still arguing?

Different playstyles are fun, one could ask whats the point of ranged classes, you dont NEED to be at range to do anything in this game at all.

Im not gonna even go into the vast uses in pvp, because clearly you'll just respond with the classic "screw pvp" response.


And really anything I have to say wont change your opinion, as this is probably your second keyboard (the first one broke when gunner wasnt announced).

Chances are, the Rogue/Ninja Stealth type skill will just be something like quelling strikes and/or shroud, where it reduces emnity/emnity gain (so it wouldnt break other things). Since its stealth, Id say more than likely just reduce emnity at cast, since stabbing something would make it know youre there, and not be stealthy anymore.

Yoshi said the gun class will be similar to a mage. Rogue came first because it'll play more unique, especially in pvp

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Yoshi said the gun class will be similar to a mage.

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ya sound kind of like how SWTOR handled their Gun classes with classes like Commando/Merc main focus on Mage type skills with their guns (casting bars and all that mage cast stuff)

Well one thing SWTOR prove is it also possible for Gun classes to shoot Healing Bullets or shoot Healing Rays :p

Though that idea would work for a Chemist Job if SE decides to give the Gun Class a Healer Job

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Though that idea would work for a Chemist Job if SE decides to give the Gun Class a Healer Job

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I'd probably play a healer if I was able to cast my healing abilities by shooting my party members in the face. Yeah, that would be fun.

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Originally Posted by Abraxis

I'd probably play a healer if I was able to cast my healing abilities by shooting my party members in the face. Yeah, that would be fun.

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Well the idea is crazy enough to work in this game with Magitek.

They just need the Gun class, Lore reason why the Gun class can heal (will most obvious will be the combat medic background), and a Crazy Chemist Scientists to be our Chemist Job trainer for a funny Mad Scientist story for the Job quest.

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Originally Posted by Khaoticsuccubus

He's also already told us the gun class wouldn't be how we thought it was going to be. And given his most recent interview sawing it would be too similar to a Mage class playstyle it seems a given that it won't be a ranged physical Dps. Hence your counter falls apart. ;)

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A gun is a gun. If anything its going to use mp for its skill pool, sounds like its going to be a "Gun mage" (reference FF:tactic advance, for some ideas how the job might play). Either way its going to be awesome.. cuz anything shooting out from a barrel, pointed at something is going to look cool, regardless if its physical dps or magic dps.

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Originally Posted by Bizniztyme

Get annoyed all you want, but don't be calling the man a lier and that he is making excuses for not adding the class or job. So childish.

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I never called him a liar. I just said people expect it cause there are hints to it already in game. I'm personally not angry or annoyed that the gun class isn't in game. Sure it would be nice, but there are other people who want it way more then I do.

I think it's funny how Flee is just reduced fall damage so you can effectively flee from aggro'd enemies by jumping off and not die, guess that's the best they got that to work in this game. They do seem intent on appealing first to the WoW audience and also discarding everything they can from the first version or at least putting it on hold as long as they, I mean the first version failed after all right, even though we already have a two handed melee based on speed and agility and still not a proper non magical non half support ranged DPS.

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Originally Posted by Moheeheeko

First of all

then why are you still arguing?

Different playstyles are fun, one could ask whats the point of ranged classes, you dont NEED to be at range to do anything in this game at all.

Im not gonna even go into the vast uses in pvp, because clearly you'll just respond with the classic "screw pvp" response.


And really anything I have to say wont change your opinion, as this is probably your second keyboard (the first one broke when gunner wasnt announced).

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it's been 4 years. those keyboards broke long ago.

again you have given me zero on what stealth is used for but a generic pvp response. so basically the class is useless outside of pvp and barely differentiates itself from mnk? yet they couldn't add musketeer (please stop saying gunner it's not gunner.) because of pvp? do you see any sense in this? honestly?

or are you going to say well it reduces enmity. cause well that's already in the game. quelling strikes. that not exactly "stealth"

oh and "screw pvp" the pvp in this game is terrible. I think you believe you can go invis sneak up on someone and 1-2 shot them ala WoW. but our dmg output to our insane hp pools isn't how it works in this game. if so nin will be the most OP class in the game with mega spike dmg.

the only thing yoshi ever said about the gunner class, is that it would not be like anything anyone was expecting. He never said anything about when it will come out. The story ingame though, told us we will be able to train in the dagger class very soon. So yoshi never had to say anything really about when it was going to come out, as we all already knew it would be in the soon future.

i just came with the crazy idea that maybe they thinking to show later a 2nd job from rouge and can be a Gun/Dagger type weapon, and this can fit to the type weapon, animation and lore (Limsa Lonminsa Pirate/rouge thief) and maybe this job can be a support class hybrid healer/dps, and this would a unexpected gunner class that fit to the sentense of yoshida... just crazy ideas !!!!!

Hopefully they announce something about a gunner class today in the live letter.

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Originally Posted by yahhzoo

Hopefully they announce something about a gunner class today in the live letter.

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I hope they to too! At least confirm that the class is on the way or something...

Well so much for those Musketeer announcements, thanks for saving me some spare cash though.

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Originally Posted by Roris

Well so much for those Musketeer announcements, thanks for saving me some spare cash though.

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And the years carry on... Thank god Nintendo had a good showing, I actually have something to look forward to now.

That is sad. That was what I was looking forward to. Oh well.

Way to much whining over MSK in this thread and others. Seriously peoples get over it.

They haven't added RDM, one of the 6 original classes of Final Fantasy, in yet n u don't see me throwing a tantrum. And RDM is MY class, THE class I want to play. Srsly, its MINE, back off yo. ;P

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Me constantly hoping to hear something new about muskateer since the guild is in the game to taunt me with hope:

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Originally Posted by Khaoticsuccubus

Way to much whining over MSK in this thread and others. Seriously peoples get over it.

They haven't added RDM, one of the 6 original classes of Final Fantasy, in yet n u don't see me throwing a tantrum. And RDM is MY class, THE class I want to play. Srsly, its MINE, back off yo. ;P

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Diffrence is though, peoples who have been waiting on MSK have been waiting on it since 1.0, with promises of "It's totally coming guys! Soon!" the entire time. And it should still be, they left the building in and everything. You'd think though that they'd put it in sooner then later since it actually has a building. What's a bit more waiting though. (besides a bit depressing and myeh myeh myeh. :/ )

I'd love me some Red Mage though. Red Mage all the waaaay~