what was that

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Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk

Nothing in life makes me happy. Everything falls short of my expectations.

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that's life, only in death will we find peace. Or when game companies stop trying to Nicole & dime us.

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Originally Posted by Coris

Ummm... no?! >_>"

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Are you asking him or telling him?

OH GOD, NO THIEF /cry

Rogue IS Thief. What don't you get about that? Just because it has a different name doesn't make it a different job.

If it's that much of a "problem" for you, maybe you should go move in with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air.

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Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider

OH GOD, NO THIEF /cry

Rogue IS Thief. What don't you get about that? Just because it has a different name doesn't make it a different job.

If it's that much of a "problem" for you, maybe you should go move in with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air.

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What people seem disappointed with is that Thief itself wasn't a job and only a class. Tbh I never really saw the difference between Rogue and Thief. Ninja is a hybrid of sorts and much stronger in ARR by the looks of it already, though every class/job has worked differently in the past in their own way. There are some who would disagree though. In my opinion, we know too little about the job/class to judge it yet.

actually they revealed a lot, talked about the new upcoming zones and what they "might" be a little bit. talked about shiva story starting and going on for some time to develop the story before you fight her, talked about where they want the relic weapons to end up, concept art of crafting airships and how they plan on implementing it, talked about brutal mode for the "elite" players, brought up the wanted thing. this is just some stuff I remember while running a dungeon lol but overall there seemed quite a bit of info revealed within each of the "trivial" questions.

I actually enjoyed the live letter. I'm excited about the new emotes, workshops, HUD updates, class/job etc. I would have liked to hear about musketeer, but I'm still holding hope for the Japanese live letter Thursday. I'm surprised that some people were expecting so much about 3.0 as I'm not expecting the expansion until September 2015. This version isn't even a year old yet. The fanfest sounds like it will be fun, I'm miffed I won't be able to attend.

Spreedlevel Rogue to Ninja. Never play Rogue again!

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

What people seem disappointed with is that Thief itself wasn't a job and only a class. Tbh I never really saw the difference between Rogue and Thief. Ninja is a hybrid of sorts and much stronger in ARR by the looks of it already, though every class/job has worked differently in the past in their own way. There are some who would disagree though. In my opinion, we know too little about the job/class to judge it yet.

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This^ Its not that we don't understand that the name basically means same thing, its that it is just the class, which after level 30 is never used again.

Was more than a little bemused at the questions. They are probably veto-ed from answering any of the "big ones" on content that's due to change before release (Golden Saucer, chocobo raising etc.) but I felt they could have given us more. Grateful to have a live letter in English though.

On the contrary, not pleased to hear of more exclusive in-game items restricted to event attendees. Didn't understand the barely-contained excitement on that reveal. Not everyone can afford to get the limited-release FanFest tickets and a whole bunch of us are nowhere near one of the events, but we love this game equally. Much better for everyone to have limited-time items like the cactuar and bomb earrings.

But honestly, that /hug emote question was cringeworthy...All that could have been asked and we got that. I think it was a wasted opportunity, but like others have said, there's Thursday to come. Just have to wait and see what happens there, and hope it'll be some exciting new content.

Yeah this is normal. It's called foreplay. They gotta build up the suspense and draw out the good stuff so we don't climax on the first day.

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Originally Posted by Applesnap

Was more than a little bemused at the questions. They are probably veto-ed from answering any of the "big ones" on content that's due to change before release (Golden Saucer, chocobo raising etc.) but I felt they could have given us more. Grateful to have a live letter in English though.

On the contrary, not pleased to hear of more exclusive in-game items restricted to event attendees. Didn't understand the barely-contained excitement on that reveal. Not everyone can afford to get the limited-release FanFest tickets and a whole bunch of us are nowhere near one of the events, but we love this game equally. Much better for everyone to have limited-time items like the cactuar and bomb earrings.

But honestly, that /hug emote question was cringeworthy...All that could have been asked and we got that. I think it was a wasted opportunity, but like others have said, there's Thursday to come. Just have to wait and see what happens there, and hope it'll be some exciting new content.

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It's just -part- of what they plan to reveal.

As for the exclusive in game items, it's likely just minions/fluff stuff (similar to the wind up bahamut you got if you buy the soundtrack). Also, the cactaur and bomb earrings were special prizes for beating a specific raid/fight if I recall, not limited time.

I don't understand why they made such a huge deal of the fact there will be fanfest-exclusive in-game items, let alone why someone from SE would give them dirty looks for making such a huge "revelation". During FFXI fanfest these kind of items were pretty standard and I expected nothing less from FFXIV fanfests.

Part 1 was pretty awesome, cannot wait for part 2 tomorrow! :)

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Originally Posted by Applesnap

They are probably veto-ed from answering any of the "big ones" on content that's due to change before release (Golden Saucer, chocobo raising etc.)

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If you actually look at the thread where the questions were asked, the questions asked usually were pretty highly voted. Whether or not they're your ideal questions, this isn't "oh they cherry picked rabbit food questions", they picked the questions people here actually wanted to see asked. I don't doubt they probably did veto one or two that they didn't want to answer (probably because 2.3-related live letters did/would answer them, such as chocobo raising, or they genuinely weren't ready to talk about it yet, like Golden Saucer), but there you go.

Personally I'm glad they didn't talk about the Expansion. Why? Because if they were ready to talk about it, I personally think it'd be being launched too soon.

The entire letter was fascinating to me, even the simple questions, because probing developper's minds on even the small things and seeing what answers they choose and why is fascinating to me as a hobby-level developper; it also does a huge amount for a sense of community and involvement in a game to have developpers willingly answer questions actually asked by players, even if they seem small or silly (I've been spoiled by another massive online game where I've had back-and-forths with developpers and have several on my friends list in-game, and there's massive dev activity daily), and Live Letters are important to that and their occasional irrelevance to anything makes me feel a lot closer to the game itself.

I get the disappointment over people expecting Something Super Special with it being E3, but to me it was just another Live Letter and another chance to hear direct from Naoki, which is exactly what I wanted.

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Originally Posted by Mug

I don't understand why they made such a huge deal of the fact there will be fanfest-exclusive in-game items, let alone why someone from SE would give them dirty looks for making such a huge "revelation". During FFXI fanfest these kind of items were pretty standard and I expected nothing less from FFXIV fanfests.

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"XI did it" is not innately a defense, you know. Real World Event exclusive items always bring bitter words from any online community.

I will wait for the second part before I make any complaints. My jaw did hit the ground when they showed the image of the our workshop and making a rogue will be fun. I enjoyed the announcements we got. I would like a expansion trailer that would really be something amazing.

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Originally Posted by BlankDiploma

things that are actually interesting and worthy of a live stream from the e3 show floor.

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Just an opinion. I found the live stream interesting and a class release before an expansion is worthy. Every other MMO waits until an expansion release to add classes. So in my opinion this LL was just fine. Plus we will get more info later.

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Originally Posted by Zaero

Also, the cactaur and bomb earrings were special prizes for beating a specific raid/fight if I recall, not limited time.

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They were added for the realms that had people beat the special Titan HM at the Japan event, last year. Every realm succeeded and every realm got both earrings, however you cannot get them now. They took the NPC away that sold them. Lasted about a month.

I'd be surprised if they weren't holding back something for the JP stream, even though it's supposed to be 2.3 focused. Otherwise, they really squandered their opportunity to really release some good future information on the game. (at least for the Western audience. TGS is probably more important to them, as a Japanese company.)

The English live letter was a big nothing-burger, plain and simple. It was 60 minutes of nothing and a 2-minute video about Ninja.

Half the questions were barely worthy of being patch note fodder, and there are many bigger issues that could have been brought up to generate some actual hype. Most have been mentioned here already.

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Originally Posted by Applesnap

On the contrary, not pleased to hear of more exclusive in-game items restricted to event attendees. Didn't understand the barely-contained excitement on that reveal. Not everyone can afford to get the limited-release FanFest tickets and a whole bunch of us are nowhere near one of the events, but we love this game equally. Much better for everyone to have limited-time items like the cactuar and bomb earrings.

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This times 1000. In game items you can't obtain if you aren't fortunate enough to live near a fanfest location? Are you freaking kidding me? They'd better be the lamest exclusive items ever, or they end up being a slap in the face to the 99% of players who can't attend. I know you guys at SE THINK this is a cool thing to do for the attendees, but you need to spend a few seconds banging your two brain cells together here. At least everyone COULD order a soundtrack.

actually the idea of in game items at events has been around for a long while, the most notorious one that does it left and right is WoW. every event there are special in game items, and now they sell E Streaming Tickets for like blizzcon and if you go or view online you get said items. in game items are meant to help differentiate players, the one thing that hurt wow imo especially making mounts account bound. everyone shouldn't have everything else that everyone else has how lame and boring is that. I wont be attending or buying the tickets, but I do hope they give these players something nice. don't you people want to be different in anyway at all? or just total robots with all the same thing?

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Originally Posted by Valthein

actually the idea of in game items at events has been around for a long while, the most notorious one that does it left and right is WoW.

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This is pretty much all the argument I need to prove that it's a terrible idea.

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Originally Posted by Melithea

This is pretty much all the argument I need to prove that it's a terrible idea.

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and again there is NOTHING wrong with it. most notorious does NOT mean the worst, wow did right by offering in game items for their events!

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Originally Posted by JTribal

IDK, I was kind of dissapointed in all honesty but seriously, that Bayohne guy needs to go.

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Eek, so I think I may have mis-spoken, if Bayohne was the translator, he's cool. I was talking about the guy asking the questions.

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Originally Posted by JTribal

Eek, so I think I may have mis-spoken, if Bayohne was the translator, he's cool. I was talking about the guy asking the questions.

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Nope, Bayohne isn't/wasn't the translator.
Translator = Fernhalwes
ComRep = Bayohne (asking the questions, sitting on the left)