dont allow shouts or tells till lvl 20

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Originally Posted by Gesser

Friend-ADDING can be done in two-clicks, right-click left-click in chat.

And if you're gonna complain about click-count then bring macros into it, then you could just as well macro friend-requesting as you could blacklisting... it appears you're just trying to throw points out to belittle my side of the debate at this point.

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That implies that they're showing up in my chat window. I've already explained that they wouldn't show up in /s, /sh, /y because I have those filtered, /fc or /l because they aren't in those groups, and /p would only work if I were for some reason in their party. The closest I can see for an flist macro is /flist add <t>, which would still require you to target them. So, a click to target, a click for macro, a click to confirm. Or can you think of a different way to get a specific character name into the macro?

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Originally Posted by Gesser

You cited one rare example in your reply. If you feel the need to have a full-blown conversation with a lowbie stranger but are in a dire queue (or wish to) then friend-add them or add to LS.

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It needn't be a "full-blown conversation." The fact is, you're suggesting we restrict the ability to even have two lines of communication, then suggesting that I add them to flist or ls just to remove them two lines later because I'll probably never talk to them again.

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Originally Posted by Gesser

I did mean the latter, you keep skipping the point of the comparison I was making. Read back once more, further this time.

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All I keep seeing is that you bring up how limiting the communication options of lowbies makes life easier on the rest of us. Just because it makes it easier on the rest of us doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, much less the best way to handle things.

Or at the very least, give us an option to not listen to those shouts/tells.

If they're a stranger & your concern is small exchanges (two lines of text), won't /say suffice? Not like they're gonna be pinpointing you among all other present options from an unknowable distance or range to ask questions, especially if you have /shout disabled.

You have your chat so severely restricted, even to include /say... so that makes you the .001% gross, outlying exception that shouldn't be catered to.

Why even mind the limitation as something that will "color your impression" negatively if you enjoy the silence so already? You're a conundrum lol. Sometimes I think you just like to play devil's advocate for the funsies, you silly goof!

A newbie from the far-reaches won't even know you exist to attempt first contact... so where is the nuisance? You have to use /say?! Heaven forbid.

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Originally Posted by Gesser

Why even mind the limitation as something that will "color your impression" negatively if you enjoy the silence so already? You're a conundrum lol. Sometimes I think you just like to play devil's advocate for the funsies, you silly goof!

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Sometimes, but that's legitimately not what I'm doing here :p

But, yeah, I had /s restricted because RP server as a non-RP'er. Recently unfiltered it, but I imagine it'll probably go back up if I step foot in any of the RP zones again.

This is probably a good example of why limitations like this won't serve to help much.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...27348481451451

Also, there's already a bunch of people who have little idea how to play their class correctly at 30+ that I occasionally encounter in daily roulettes, i'd rather not have anything that may possibly hinder people's progress in learning how to play better.

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Originally Posted by Mynaria

This is probably a good example of why limitations like this won't serve to help much.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...27348481451451

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LoL now come on, that's just a Role-playing FC very dedicated to gibberish FC chat and playing with fire....wonder why they let the one hyur in though... mating??