Don't add flying mounts

Eorzea is an absolutely breathtaking place. Why in the seven hells would you want to argue AGAINST having flying? Do you have any idea how beautiful even a blocky eyesore like WoW looks from the sky?

/disagree. I want to fly over the lake in mor dhona... I want to explore the water source at the burning wall... Flying probably wont work that way anyway, but still...

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Originally Posted by swordrain

It completely neuters player interaction in the game world, one of the prime reasons I left Azeroth was because I was the only other adventurer there, unless someone else wanted my mining node.

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i wasn't aware that there's player interaction in the game world now.

No one uses mounts anyway so doesn't really bother me. I've got ten mounts but just teleport everywhere anyway.

not sure about that free to fly in every area mounts thing,
but yea, give FCs their own airships in one way or another.

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Originally Posted by Aegis

They mentioned in an interview (last year, I think) that the world wasn't designed to be viewed from above which is why the airships are only a brief CS rather than an actual ride. When FC/personal airships are introduced I would expect the to be in their own instanced areas.

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What I'm hoping(and probably has no chance of happening) is if they make one massive "up in the sky" zone that puts everyone into a map that's like the boat/airship ones from XI. Huge, but showing the game world below in lesser detail due to being up so high. They could let people fly their ships around in this area, anchor at cities and the like, crash into little groups of flying mobs to change to a deck view where you can fight them, let people skyfish from their decks, and so on. Maybe even allow for some airship customization too, more speed, ramming prows to debuff large boss things flying up there before the fight, or vastly different looks(I'm thinking the variety from XII).

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Originally Posted by Lovescake

id prefer swimming with combat than flying..

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I don't want flying mounts. They're cool at first, but really hurt the game in subtle ways.

But swimming? That's so much worse. In all of gaming only two good things have happened underwater. Ecco the Dolphin and sex with Yuna.

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Originally Posted by RazeLandale

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I chuckled at your summary.

I don't like the idea of flying mounts either. However, it'd be great to have a "black Choco" idea implemented in each city that allows you to jump on, flag a location, fly there, jump off and the Choco or whatever goes back home. Or something akin to this that is already there with chocos, fly between cities for a Gil charge.

And could implement a flight-between-City States that has an overhead view.

None of the above would be real game changers IMO but would still be nice and fun to have.

Flying mounts would kill this game in my honest opinion. Please never add them.

No way can I see them adding flying mounts - at least not for travel within a zone.

With that said though I would love to see zones grow in size or handle transitions between zones without a loading screen. I feel like its the PS3 that made them take that path here (and in other game mechanics) so we'll be on a crutch unfortunately.

Its ok. No one is supposed to pass WoW in this area and I'll keep playing FF but it sure would be welcomed to remove zoning with future content.

Definitely looking forward to that DX11 client on the PC in the future.

flying mounts are great, but I don't see how they would be able to add them with how eorza currently is.

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

Flying mounts didn't ruin WoW. Flying mounts didn't ruin world pvp. People not caring about world pvp ruined it.

On the other hand, currently, Eorzea doesn't need flying mounts.

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Eorzea may not need flying mounts, but Eorzea is less than 5% of the explored world. I bet when the world opens up, and we find out the Aethernet system was an "Eorzea-only" thing, people would want flying mounts.

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Originally Posted by swordrain

Square Enix, you have the advantage of learning from the mistakes of the past with this game. One of the biggest mistakes in the history of WoW was adding flying mounts.

It completely neuters player interaction in the game world, one of the prime reasons I left Azeroth was because I was the only other adventurer there, unless someone else wanted my mining node.

It's become a really big problem for the game, revealing itself to cost a lot of time and resources to REMOVE from the quality of the game as a whole, and caused the developers to completely ignore any kind of development of the game world as a result, resulting in 10 year old problems that still plague its design, no one caring because world exploration is now a "single player" experience.

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Cloning WoW itself was the biggest mistake imo, but I completely understand where you are going regarding flying mounts; unless they add sky interaction or something, idk, "Shrugs"

Man I swear, this community is toxic, everytime you post anything you get repeatedly insulted by most everyone in any thread. I'm never coming back here again, you people need help.

In one of the live letters they did say they would consider adding flying mounts when more expansions will be up and running with other continents being accessible.

That being said, I don't see how a flying mount would negatively affect interaction between players in any way. There will always be people gathering in places, be it around certain NPCs (Look at the wineport invasion for the first coil and now the Fallgourd Float invasion...) or objects (Doubt there will be flying market boards...?), and even so we have plenty of distance-proof chat systems which are already more used than the /say channel. Hell, I'm a roleplayer and I've been actually harassed for using the /say channel.

I keep saying this to all those who flame others' requests when it comes to adding things or options to the game: if it's not a suggestion that will affect your gameplay, then don't argue against it. Someone wants more minions and you don't? You don't have to use them. Someone wants more ponies and you don't? You don't have to ride them. Some people apparently want flying mounts, and unless you can explain yourself better with valid resources I don't see how their presence in the game would affect yourself, they will not ruin the game for you, and as such the idea should not be flared. The developers are working to make most of the community happy, not you.

Because I like to see people on the ground when I too move through areas, on the ground. Don't need people in the air moving at 400% speed. Gives more of an MMO feel for me, and I consider FFXIV to be an MMO. If it would not affect my experience, add them, add like 1000 of them. However, it does affect me and so many others, so please SE, just don't.

The "flying" part is probably a magical city in the skies or something in that line. It doesn't equate to flying mounts. The areas are too small anyway and teleport fees can be ignored considering the amount of gold you earn from dungeons now.

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Originally Posted by Ahmbor

I don't know where you got the idea they were adding them, too!

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Yoshi-p said that they want to add two things to ffxiv. One is sea and sky where in the sea expansion would add swimming to the game and sky would add a type of flying mount. He even said that player base like more of sea then a sky expansion but he himself like the sky expansion that he may just do that first.

Also the mount for flying could be this
http://www.zam.com/Im/Image/143191.jpg

I remember something way back about us having a fly battle with this type of single man airship but no more what said about it.

Pretty sure they would add both swimming and flying because it's a normal thing and i sure SE can do it right.

Maybe they are just implementing the airship into the FC house like they said in previous letters dating back to beta. People are getting all worked up over it being flying mounts. Maybe the airship will be used to access the new island dungeon!! Maybe their is a new dungeon or quests that are only accessible from free company raids via the airship . They have mentioned both airship and free company quests in previous letters so the possibilities are open to the imagination. And with SE's lack of disclosure its hard to tell exactly whats planned in the future.

opening of 1.0 .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDSnzcaLaZg

so wait people are complaining because it would leave the world an empty shell. Teleports have already done that so introducing flying mounts would make no difference tbh. If flying mounts were introduced it would be a new open area only use bit like early WoW where you couldn't use the flying mounts in the original areas that was only opened up much later in cataclysm and required an overhaul of the original areas.

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Originally Posted by Yurihyuga

so wait people are complaining because it would leave the world an empty shell. Teleports have already done that so introducing flying mounts would make no difference tbh. If flying mounts were introduced it would be a new open area only use bit like early WoW where you couldn't use the flying mounts in the original areas that was only opened up much later in cataclysm and required an overhaul of the original areas.

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Nah, it would just make it even more worthless. People still have to move from the crystal to a location (though few exist to move to). With flying mount they will then skip everything between THOSE two points. Vanilla WoW required you to run past mobs, and brave some crowded areas in high level zones. With TBC literally everything was skippable.

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Originally Posted by DoubleT

lol they already use alot of stuff from xi. mobs, races, even the 3 towns are kind of similar to xi's 3 original towns.

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Lol, sorry, he was stuck with that from 1.0. I'm really not trying to be angry, but lack of thinking is one of my pet peeves.

And as I explained in the last post, there was mention of a flying battle. Or at least it was alluded to. Going forward, you are going to be depressed if you stack everything up against XI. Yoshi doesn't want to make XI-2, he wants to make his own game. Just because there are staples of fan service between FF's doesn't mean he is are will make XI-2. In fact it's more likely that he'll do something opposite just so it's not perceived as XI-2.