Idea - How to finish with the RMT.

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Originally Posted by Adrian74

Really? I have been two months playing and what you say is new for me... So maybe there's the failure... If they are really taking actions about players that buy gil... They should advertise all the players better, saying it for example when about to log, or in the message of logging, because it is clearly failing, people doesn't know they can get banned, so they buy, so RMT stills...

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At this point I don't think you really have any more ideas.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

RMT's were off the hook last night... bam, /blacklist, bam, /blacklist, bam, /blacklist, bam, /logout

It's like a minigame with no reward :(

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lol this cracked me up

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Originally Posted by DoctorPepper

The did take action quite a while ago close to launch by removing a large quantity of gil from various accounts flagged for buying gil off of RMT. Then people got onto the forums, claimed they were innocent, community believed them and there was outrage. That's the kind of thing they have to deal with when they take action and I can guarantee it would be much worse if those players were banned and didn't just get a slap on the wrist.

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I can almost bet a large portion of the my account got hack people that go and make new characters are actually banned gil buyers. Hackers aren't gonna go through the trouble of getting an account to delete it.

Time is $.

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This would just delay the stream of bots initially to get the new system up in place and line up the bots to be made, but other than that, it would just run same as always...

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If you delay bot creation by even say...10 min, you have just reduced their income.

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Originally Posted by dejavutwo

I think a better method would be to add a "Report RMT" option in the rightclick menu. This option would add the character to your blacklist and create a GM Report, and if a player gets enough of these reports, they will automatically have their entire account banned from public chat channels and whisper until a GM investigates and either does a full account ban or restores the players privileges.

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Why can't we all vote this and agree on something. Different ideas are fine but it seems like every idea this thread has , there is someone saying it will hurt players. How is this hurting anyone besides the harassing spammers?

I think this idea by Dejavutwo is on the right track and needs to be implemented right away. It's not like if you send 2 or 3 tells or shouts you be the ban hammer. Come on you know the difference between someone selling goods from crafting, asking for help or just plain talking in shout and those that want to sell gil and spam it 50 times in a row. Big diff. Right?

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Originally Posted by tymora

Time is $.


If you delay bot creation by even say...10 min, you have just reduced their income.

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Not really.. Well maybe 1 or 2 of those small/new companies. The big names in RMT don't spam you. And they are the big dealers.

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I think this idea by Dejavutwo is on the right track and needs to be implemented right away. It's not like if you send 2 or 3 tells or shouts you be the ban hammer. Come on you know the difference between someone selling goods from crafting, asking for help or just plain talking in shout and those that want to sell gil and spam it 50 times in a row. Big diff. Right?

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Now ask yourself this. Can it be abused?

I really really think that a great idea would be the option to write OUR OWN chat filters, and any message that matches OUR OWN chat filters would get sent to another tab in the chat channel, that we could have the option to look at filtered messages there.

Bot find a new way of saying their website? Add it to the blacklist.

I would like this to have two 'tiers' of filters. One for just filtering based off of a word or pattern, and another one allowing regular expressions. Regular expressions are a super powerful pattern matching tool from the realm of computer science, and are a bit complex to learn. This idea here is that people who are not familiar with regular expressions will be able to get filters from the community. However players with no experience or desire to learn regular expressions could filter based on words.

SE could then look at the most filtered words/phrases from the community and then add that to their official blacklist for everyone.

Use pf to advertise for crafting

Perhaps they could make it so when you send someone a /tell on the Player Search (or whatever the RMT use to send /tells to everyone) it does a captcha there and only there to verify.

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Originally Posted by Adrian74

I'll add another idea, the brutal idea. This one will receive critics because the method, but... It will work, HAS to work. As someone said, the only way for stop RMT would be try to convince everyone for not use their services... Yes, this would kill RMT from the root

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That was the basic idea even back in FFXI. Everyonewere able to see the effect in the economy once most gill-sellers were exposed and banned.

The same rules apply to corruption, don't buy into it. As a community, only we can improve our content and ignore RMT.

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Originally Posted by Beetle

Didnt read hole post.

#1 But a Good idea is put a limit on how many characters you can create with that account once you start up your first character.
Example, Once first character has been created you cant create another one for least 3-7 days.
This would slow down RMT character creation after being jailed and starting up another character with same account.

#2 Limitation on shouts and tells by 20 a min.

Doing these first 2 will slow them down or use the need to create more characters/accounts.

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#1 They actually have this. Unfortunately it's a very generous 6 characters per day.
#2 I've told people to send me a tell when they manage to create their character. It's easier for a friend on a new character to tell me than it is for me to keep searching for them. I've also sometimes created a character to visit friends on other servers. /tell restrictions would suck greatly XD I think 1 tell every 15-30 secs is a reasonable limit.

I didn't read whole thread but I never recall seeing as to why they can't ban the entire account to make them stop having the ability to just create new characters? Make them buy the entire game again, that should slow them down.

Or does SE still want the money form the SUBS? And this whole announcement on RMT account banning is a facade.

I must be missing something that sounds too simple.

I know WoW did a rolling timer, if you hit it once it would squelch you for 1 minute, if you tried again within that minute it would squelch you for 5, and so forth.

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Originally Posted by Legend_

I didn't read whole thread but I never recall seeing as to why they can't ban the entire account to make them stop having the ability to just create new characters? Make them buy the entire game again, that should slow them down.

Or does SE still want the money form the SUBS? And this whole announcement on RMT account banning is a facade.

I must be missing something that sounds too simple.

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Having in mind all the ideas for stopping RMT, and even easiest ones like this.... And thinking that they have not yet did it and stopped RMT makes me think... But, well, I'll reserve my words, I don't want to insinuate anything.