Ilevel requirement needs revision

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Originally Posted by juniglee

What about if I wear DEX gear as a tank?

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Knock yourself out, there's a root beer in the fridge.

Problem is, people associate ilvl with skill (which is why a lot of PFs on my server are crazy high because they "want a win"*). So, because people want to get their run of something, they goose their ilvl to meet that. In most instances you can get away with it, but in others (like the EX modes), you get sniffed out pretty fast.

As far as the spiritbonding thing, I've run CT in crafting gear before AS a challenge. Running that dungeon in ilvl 92 gear gets kinda boring, so if I go in with a bunch of FC mates, and they have no issues with it, why not?

That said, DF is not a "find me a speedrun" service. Busting through dungeons as fast as possible is ehhh to me. But, MMO players I guess.

*Which I'll note these are usually the ones that end up dying in said run.

Did you actually run the dungeon? If mobs died and you all lived, then it isn't your business what he is wearing. Yes, its stupid and obnoxious for him to do that, but if you guys are easily able to clear the dungeon then it doesn't matter. Mind your business unless things go bad.

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Originally Posted by Saccharin

I sometimes check gear when I'm waiting. If the tank's failing on hate I look at their gear and if that's ok I then look at the combat log and find they aren't using riot blade instead of savage blade. I seem to spend so much time teaching people to tank these days. Why do more people think riot blade is for enmity all of a sudden.

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Flash costs MP, Riot Blade gives you MP back, New players then "put 2 and 2 together" without reading all of the tool tips. They don't use it for Enmity they use it because that one Flash they used made them lose MP.

It's kind of sad really

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Originally Posted by Taei

...I like to go through my DR's as quickly as possible... its pretty rude to go into DR expecting people ... kill extra mobs for Exp. Not everyone in there has the time...

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Yet another dude who thinks DF was made to please himself only.

Everyone have the same rights as you to play DF as they want. As long as the duty is done, slow or fast, you cannot complain.

We have enough threads complaining about PUGs. No need for more.

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Originally Posted by Sadana

But couldn't you say the same thing about expecting a SR in the DF/DR? Either way it's selfishness... ^^;






If this isn't expecting a speedrun... what did you mean?

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You need to learn how to read. He didn't say anything about a speedrun, he was simply annoyed that someone went into a dungeon in crafting gear rather than battle gear.

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

Flash costs MP, Riot Blade gives you MP back, New players then "put 2 and 2 together" without reading all of the tool tips. They don't use it for Enmity they use it because that one Flash they used made them lose MP.

It's kind of sad really

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That's what I did assume at first but they never used flash. It feels like I have to school every pally in how to use basic pally functions. It gets very tedious. Yesterday in roulette we had a glad who just couldn't keep hate. We all tell him what to do and he doesn't. He suddenly decides he has to go and I 'tank' the rest as a Bard and we three man it well. Bard tank! OH, it was Tam-Tara. Grrr

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Originally Posted by Sadana

If this isn't expecting a speedrun... what did you mean?

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Nobody enter Halatali HM and expect an exp party, with or without DF

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Yet another dude who thinks DF was made to please himself only.

Everyone have the same rights as you to play DF as they want. As long as the duty is done, slow or fast, you cannot complain.

We have enough threads complaining about PUGs. No need for more.

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You're right, if I want to watch an episode of Star Trek in between every single trash pull that is my right, I might also walk my dog after each boss because aerobic exercise is very important. Why can't the other 3 members be considerate of my needs?!

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Originally Posted by Ricky

You're right, if I want to watch an episode of Star Trek in between every single trash pull that is my right, I might also walk my dog after each boss because aerobic exercise is very important. Why can't the other 3 members be considerate of my needs?!

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If you do that you are afk so you will get kicked lol. Now if you say wait a minute need to whatever and the group says ok well do you.

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Originally Posted by juniglee

What about if I wear DEX gear as a tank?

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DEX has a place on tanks, it's called tank-melded gryphonskin rings etc, and dex melds after parry and acc on heavy wolfram. Jussayin.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

DEX has a place on tanks, it's called tank-melded gryphonskin rings etc, and dex melds after parry and acc on heavy wolfram. Jussayin.

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I know dex affects block and parry rates. What he is saying what if I choose to wear all crafted ilevel 70 dex accessories in dungeons for the sole reason of spirtbonding. Will the OP do the same to me since I'm not wearing the "appropriate" gear?

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Originally Posted by Macka

I know dex affects block and parry rates. What he is saying what if I choose to wear all crafted ilevel 70 dex accessories in dungeons for the sole reason of spirtbonding. Will the OP do the same to me since I'm no wearing the "appropriate" gear?

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Well, the ilvl 70 dex accessories have str as well, and whether or not they have vit melded to them isn't that big a deal for dungeons. If I was a healer and saw a tank in unmelded ilvl 70 str/dex accessories I'd be like OK, this tank will have less max hp, but take damage a little slower than someone in i90 fendings. I'd consider it a lot more reasonable than a drg in crafting gear.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Well, the ilvl 70 dex accessories have str as well, and whether or not they have vit melded to them isn't that big a deal for dungeons. If I was a healer and saw a tank in unmelded ilvl 70 str/dex accessories I'd be like OK, this tank will have less max hp, but take damage a little slower than someone in i90 fendings. I'd consider it a lot more reasonable than a drg in crafting gear.

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What if it was the healer or dps? Wearing ilevel 52 crafted gear.

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Originally Posted by Keikun

SB in a dungeon is LAME no matter how sweet you wanna make it look just cause you do it, its just disrespectful to others, whoever does it is a terrible player.

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SB in DF is fine. I would not do it with crafting gear, but so longs as it is primary stat accessories it should not matter. There is absolutely no need for me to go to HM dungeons in my full i93 gear. Might make a few seconds faster, but not enough for anyone to notice. SBing crafting gear is a little lame but as long as the person is doing okay I would not complain. I never check gear unless there are problems.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

DEX has a place on tanks, it's called tank-melded gryphonskin rings etc, and dex melds after parry and acc on heavy wolfram. Jussayin.

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Actually I was more referring to i45 Dex accessories...like Spinel set.

Just cause you picked duty roulette doesn't mean the other people did. The duty finder matches people reguardless of if they picked DR or they just queued for specific dungeons. There are not many exp type mobs in the game to spirit bond.

Its more of a problem with spirit bonding in general then people doing it in your duty finder run. Honestly the system should be reworked so that you don't have to use crappy gear and kill mobs that give exp with it on to get materia.