RIP Pharos, we'll hardly miss ye...

I never played the old Pharos, but I don't think it would've been remotely possible for me to heal pre-nerf at my current gear level.
I was ilvl55 when I first did it a couple of days ago (ran it with my FC, 'cause they needed a healer and I wanted to try, I don't think they thought I would succeed but I did fine other than a wipe or two xD)

I gotta say that I loved it though, it really required something more than just "mash keys, dodge AoE".

Eh, it's still harder than the new dungeons (Halatali, Braflox, LCoA) in that it requires DPS to not faceroll bosses. That, in itself, is still a hurdle for many people, even with the nerfs.

Just done it for the first time today and loved it.
Sad i will never see it in its full glory tough. Its nice that for once the healer gets the spotlight.

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Just done it for the first time today and loved it.
Sad i will never see it in its full glory tough. Its nice that for once the healer gets the spotlight.

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Big healer dungeon, but I would actually say it's more of a DPS dungeon. They really need to be on their game too.

The dungeon post nerf isn't too much different to me other than Siren being a tad easier to handle. Most of the changes are some trash mobs being removed, so it makes plowing through the dungeon faster at least rather than hitting a roadblock every few steps.

I completed it three times pre-patch. I hated that dungeon. One time in DR we completed it literally 1 minute before the timer ran out. Ugh. It wasn't actually a bad dungeon to run with a party who knew what they were doing. The mechanics were fun and it's pretty! But I am not sad to see it nerfed. Now if I get it in DR I don't feel like tearing my hair out by Siren.

I asked my party to interrupt Lunatic's Voice in the DR run the other day, and they forgot a few times. To my shock and amazement, nothing terrible happened. I may have giggled with glee.

Edit: Never mind. I take it all back. I just did it again, asked party to stun Lunatic's Voice, no one did and two people ran away from her when she landed in the middle. Everyone with healing debuff, me stunlocked by the sergeants no one was killing, and two people about to be charmed. I said politely in chat again, "Please stun that." and the response I got was, "Why? It's your job to keep people at full life." LOLOK.

haha, PS is/was easy so long as you have a silencer for Terrorize, it makes Siren trivial if you don't need to deal with that aoe disease. I miss it tho, was a great source of commendations as healer, and a fun challenge to boot. RIP Pharos Sirius.

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haha, PS is/was easy so long as you have a silencer for Terrorize, it makes Siren trivial if you don't need to deal with that aoe disease. I miss it tho, was a great source of commendations as healer, and a fun challenge to boot. RIP Pharos Sirius.

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You're a bigger person than me. I hated that place with a fiery passion, and I'm not really that big of a fan of it now if people refuse to pay attention. Lunatic's Voice doesn't even need to be interrupted as long as people listen when someone advises them to "stand in the middle when she lands there." When I see two people with song, everyone with the healing debuff, and I'm stunned by a sergeant...oh I just want to cry.

Why on earth is this dungeon not as rewarding as the new easy modes I MEAN hard modes lol

The only boss I ever had trouble with in there was the first one.

As a Tank, I never failed to down this place. Mainly because I knew how to protect my healer by picking up adds and stunning lunatic. As a DPS, it was hit or miss because of the tank not stunning and not picking up adds. As a healer... I never downed this fight. 1st boss, adds would rape me. 2nd boss, adds would rape me. Siren? I simply could not heal through this fight. Whether it was me being stun locked, being beaten to death by the walkers the whole time or simply no one else in the group helping out (not silencing/stunning and tunnel visioning the boss when adds spawn), I quit each of the few times I tried to heal it. And yes, I would explain each time what everyone needed to do and it never helped. After the last time I tried to heal this, I would always do HL as tank only.

I'm interested to try it again now after the nerf, but I likely never will as there's really no reason to anymore.

I've done this fight as a Healer, DPS and a Tank, from experience, the majority of the difficulty of Siren is when tanks fail to stun Lunatic Voice, at that point healing becomes crazy difficult. The first boss is made much easier if the tank goes around and attempts to pick up adds as they spawn.

Is the BGM on infinite loop? Haven't gone back there since 2.2 but was my favorite prior (now it's Lost City of Amdapor). If devs haven't looped the dungeon music, they need to do that in Pharos, that BGM is so damn nice imo.

Dfficult? The only "difficult" part of this entire dungeon is Symond the Unsinkable. Most of the time, DPS/healers don't know how to take him on (dem dawgz tho…) and end up wiping at least once. As tank, I pretty much expect that to happen whenever I get thrown into Pharaohs.

Siren… difficult? Since when? Maybe for healers (as I don't have any level 50 healers yet), but I've done it as both tanks and DRG/MNK. Never had any problems dealing with her mechanics. If she disappears and doesn't return to the middle, she's going Ifrit HM mode. If she comes back to the center, she's going Hydra mode. Not too hard to deal with if you think about it in those terms.

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Dfficult? The only "difficult" part of this entire dungeon is Symond the Unsinkable. Most of the time, DPS/healers don't know how to take him on (dem dawgz tho…) and end up wiping at least once. As tank, I pretty much expect that to happen whenever I get thrown into Pharaohs.

Siren… difficult? Since when? Maybe for healers (as I don't have any level 50 healers yet), but I've done it as both tanks and DRG/MNK. Never had any problems dealing with her mechanics. If she disappears and doesn't return to the middle, she's going Ifrit HM mode. If she comes back to the center, she's going Hydra mode. Not too hard to deal with if you think about it in those terms.

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I never have a problem as a healer on the first boss, but man Siren. There are two problems: people not interrupting Lunatic's Voice, and DPS not focusing the sergeants. With the nerf, Lunatic's Voice isn't even that big a problem as long as your healer isn't stunlocked or your DPS aren't too stupid to get into the middle when she jumps there. I don't expect people to know it right away, but if the mechanics are explained beforehand and people choose not to read and mess it up, it's a really frustrating fight as a healer.

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As tank, I usually Flash/OP/etc. the dogs while keeping on Symond and keep hate on everything while DPS downs them. The times I've failed it was due to:

A. My own fault of not being able to reach an add in time/distance while keeping out of crystal hell
B. DPS not taking an add I couldn't reach in time away from healer
C. Healer/BLM tanking ;)
D. DPS not realizing they're standing in crystal hell, thus explosions, etc.
E. Rarely, healer shouts "OOM!" ¬_¬

Pharos was my favourite dungeon before they adjusted it. Sure, it could be painful with pugs, especially if me and my teammates were lacking a common language. But man, I was always so happy with myself after we downed Siren. I really liked the fight, it pushed myself to be aware of debuffs, adds' locations, my location when Siren jumps etc. I always felt so gleeful when I had stoneskinned and adlo'd the team and Siren's song would do nothing to the double bubbles.

But in the end I think the first boss was the toughest, because with so many overgeared DDs and dps races, many don't quite understand survival fights and where dpsing slow is better than pewpewing and getting overrun by a pack of rapid dogs. It's a nice change from the game's "do this asap or die" mentality.

yeah, ps was the most challenging dungeon, im going to miss the dungeon as it was, oh well, at least we have Pa-paya~ paya papaya~ pa-pa-ya~♪

Siren was not hard as long as the tank did his job, that meaning interupts.. if he didn't then this fight became almost impossible.

This dungeon was just a perfect example of people learning to play and do their jobs, if they didn't do their job correctly, the group wiped.

And as for the first boss, it just went to show people, being overgeared and just trying tank and spank wasn't always the smart thing to do.. I REALLY wish they would bring more of these type of fights.. we don't need dps races/tank n spank type fights, we need more teamwork type fights

I am mainly a SCH in FFXIV. And I absolutely loved this dungeon when it first came out. I had my struggles at first but this dungeon is do-able at i70(now and it was do-able then). With the dark light gear the dungeon was a true dungeon for healers. Its too bad they nerfed it down with a lot of other dungeons

I did this for the first time yesterday only, and its not really so challenging now (post-nerf), healers have to be on their toes and the rest of the party need to just mind their positioning, but apart from that its nothing too crazy or difficult now. It was amusing to see the tank surprised at the smooth run considering one dps and I were new :p