I would rater they hold off on the guild mark changes until they add in airships. You might be able to substitute airships for chocobos and implement the guild mark change but it seems airships will be coming first anyways.
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07-01-2011, 04:38 PMTiss
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07-01-2011, 04:45 PMJynx
People need to be less afraid to spend a little time walking. It's not even a extremly long trip on foot.
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07-01-2011, 04:59 PMTiss
Casual people don't have that much time to play, and it takes like 20 minutes to run from Uldah to Grid.
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07-02-2011, 01:18 AMSymon17Exactly, when you don't have a lot of free time it's a hassle. Not to mention yea we can walk, but that really is not fun. At all. And I don't know about you, but I play video game to have fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jynx
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07-02-2011, 01:33 AMgeniusprimeLittle walking? Are you serious? If it that was the case I doubt it would be mention this often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jynx
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07-02-2011, 07:07 AMSwev
walking to all three cities to complete levequests as a armorer / archer and then running to turn them in yet for marks = 5 hours of game play. Yes i did look at the clock and time this myself
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07-09-2011, 06:04 AMRentahamsterThanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiara
The retainer capacity issue is more a problem with the game and server code, in my opinion. If they just scrap the NPC retainers for now and stick with a menu-driven interface, they could fix a lot of these problems really easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiara
Item search could be optimized more with the elimiation of redundant listings if the same character has multiple stacks of the same item for sale at the same price.
As for your point about RMT, "driving out the competition" in an MMO doesn't really work like how it does in the real world. In an MMO, there is no barrier to anyone farming the same stuff that RMT bots do.
Plus, with a price history that goes back a full year, forcefully manipulating perceived price becomes very hard and very expensive to do.
But anyway, improving the item search feature does not address the issues that a unified wards would address - it wouldn't encourage players to travel to other cities at all. The point of a unified wards is so that a player feel free to go to another city, but not be punished for being outside the access of the Uldah wards.
I would have the default set to off. With the addition of more chat tabs, the best way to customize the display for global shouts would be to have them all in a separate tab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiara
Honestly, I'm a little surprised at the opposition to optional global shouts. It has more positive implications for social activity and player interaction than negative ones. After all, isn't player to player interaction what an MMO is supposed to be all about? -
07-09-2011, 07:25 AMRabidSquirrelGlobal chat set to a different chat tab...damn. I don't know why that thought never occurred to me. Something like that would be awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rentahamster
But it would still be nice to have a few global chats. Like one for trade, one for parties, one for raids, etc. Might at least help split up the inevitable headbutting that will happen over any chat. -
07-09-2011, 08:10 AMRentahamsterI like the way my chat logs are set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by RabidSquirrel
I have the main window on the bottom, with the first tab set to show everything (minus a few of the more spammy battle logs), and the second tab to show only battle logs.
I have the second chat window right above the first window, with the first tab labeled, "linkshell" - it shows only linkshell text. The second tab is labeled "party", and it only shows party chat, say, and tell. -
07-10-2011, 04:44 AMKiaraHi Renta,Quote:
Originally Posted by Rentahamster
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. :)
That's a great suggestion to have an improved Search Function that eliminates redundant listings if the same Character has multiple listings of an item at the same price (sort of like collapsing a sub-menu so to speak). That would help one of the problems. :)
But in terms of Market Manipulation that definitely happens in an MMO. I saw it happen across many items / resources in FF XI on my server. Even with a price history, if the RMT Corporations drive out the competition (e.g., having multiple retainers all price dump an item with super low price), individual players can't keep up with that. They will eventually give up and leave that market segment.
And then the RMT Corporation swoops in and jacks up the price.
Even if you see the Price History and realize it's marked up, if no one else is selling it (because they were driven out), then you either have to go farm / craft it yourself, or pay the marked up prices.
Re: Global Chat - That's a great suggestion! I didn't think about having a separate Tab in your Chat Window to separate out Global Chat. :) If it was off by default, and was separated into a separate Tab Window (if you chose to), then I wouldn't mind having that functionality. -
07-10-2011, 07:43 AMindira
they should just lock main stuff to your characters city states, problem sloved.
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07-10-2011, 09:16 AMDreadnoughtlol what? what NEEDS to be done is to release a game with a mount system, not be the only one in the world without one and have its gamers tell other gamers to deal with it cuz its not that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jynx
it should not take me an hour to get from one city to another, i dont care what your argument is. -
07-10-2011, 10:34 AMwhoopeeragon
Not to mention, storyline-wise, all players have to gravitate towards Ul'dah to start the higher-ranked storyline quests anyway. That's another concept I really didn't understand, the need to place everything at Ul'dah to start off with. Limsa Lominsa is pretty much neglected after it's initial quests, because no following quests involve going back to Vylbrand at all. Gridania is a bit better off, since some quests are involved there, but there's a very heavy bias to how the storyline revolves around Ul'dah.
If they create more quests for the story, and implement them around Limsa Lominsa and Gridania, it would probably be better as well for a small part of the problem. Perhaps not so much a huge issue compared to the others you've mentioned, Renta, but I still find it slightly aggravating. -
07-10-2011, 11:03 AMViridiana
A number of things would help immensely, most of which have already been mentioned. As long as Uldah maintains an economic stranglehold, not many people are going to branch out. The downside to the other two markets, of course, is that products in them rarely get seen, meaning they rarely sell. I'd say that, at an absolute minimum, the search feature needs to be linked. At least, that'd be the minimum if the ward system weren't more or less doomed. As Renta (and myself, and others) said, scrapping the NPCs and turning it into a text system would be best. Even with that, though, the cities should have a common economy.
Also, we need better travel options. Anima doesn't hurt me at the moment, because I only get to play on weekends, usually, but I'm sure most people are hurting for it as is. With the increased demands to go from city to city, something needs to change. There's no reason that every trip between cities should require a choice between "finite resource A" (Anima) and "finite resource B" (Time). Some quick, easy way to get form point A to point B, even if it costs gil, is vital to seeing people spread out more.
Another vital component is some way to communicate with non-LS-mates who aren't in the immediate area. Some sort of chat channel for trading that at least operates within the cities. Keep it optional, of course. I mean, here I am asking for it, and even I wouldn't want to be in it all the time. The fact is, though, that trading will always allow for more options than a simple market ward or auction house. The problem with trading at the moment, though, is that it's limited in how far you can advertise. You can either ask LS mates, or you can ask whoever's within /sh distance. I'm personally not fond of selling things to LS mates, and I know I'm not the only one. I also hate /sh and almost refuse to use it (fewer people agree with that part, I'm sure :p). Even if I did use /sh, it wouldn't help at all if I were in Grid and the only people who want to buy the item are in LL and Uldah. I want some way to tell them "Hey, I'm in Grid and have a (blank) that I want to get rid of. What do you have for trade?" Or "Hey, I want that weapon you're selling, but I don't have the 12m gil you're asking for. Would you take shards/crystals/clusters/myfirstbornchild instead?" Yes, I'm sure a chat channel would be used just as often for random-ass conversations. Most people, including me, will probably hop in it just long enough to find a buyer/seller and then get out. It's still a feature I think belongs there. -
07-10-2011, 01:05 PMRentahamsterOnce they jack up the price, anyone can come back in and undercut them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiara
In the end, RMT are going to do whatever they can to make gil. In my view, it's better to ensure that players have a positive gameplay experience since a lot of anti-RMT measures only frustrate legitimate players and don't really have that much of a negative impact on RMT activity at all. -
07-10-2011, 02:11 PMKilta_Firelotus
I stayed in gridania or did leves all over. I pretty much level and grinded in the town my current class was in. I like grid. I like the forest look to it. the area reminds me of the white mountains. And the forests around it. It hs a zelda lost woods feel :)
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07-10-2011, 09:49 PMKumaAkuma
I fully disagree with the OP and YoshiP :/
I think everybody is in Uldah, because the server populations are too low. There shouldn't be made any effort to force people to other cities. There should be made more of an effort to get more people to play the game. -
07-11-2011, 12:03 AMOibaf
Great post, I agree with everything you've said. Unfortunately, SE will need a ridicolous amount of time to fix all that.
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07-11-2011, 12:09 AMWarlyx
good post :D
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07-11-2011, 12:26 AMAuroraBorealiswhen I first got on this game after the beta had ended none of these were a factor for me or my friends for moving to uldah. the only reason we started to go there was because Grid had terrible lag at release (this was later fixed but by then the damage had been done) and we had all been in the beta and had our fill of LL so the only choice we had was to all walk over to Ul'dah. there were alot of rumors we heard as well from others who started in Gridania that Ul'dah didn't have the lag that Gridania had so I am sure we weren't the only ones who headed to that city for that very reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigmakan
By the time the lag issue had been fixed so many people were in Ul'dah that it didnt make sense to go back to Gridania
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07-11-2011, 02:07 AMAlise
very good discuss Rentahamster, I think of the same thing too.
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07-11-2011, 04:59 AMRentahamsterWell that's strange considering nothing that I nor YoshiP suggested has anything to do with "forcing" people to other cities. Our suggestions prevent punishment for players who do leave Uldah.Quote:
Originally Posted by KumaAkuma
Our suggestions are part of an effort to achieve that overall goal. Did you read this part of my OP?Quote:
Originally Posted by KumaAkuma
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Originally Posted by Rentahamster