PvP for Disciples of Magic is disastrously designed and woefully inconsiderate.

Wolf's Den is definitely not blm friendly, and depending on going from cd to cd, isn't dealing damage.

BLM and SMN are both incredible, when will people stop posting about this.

huh weird.. I ranked up to rank 30 on my bard (which we all know is ofc lolfaceroll EZ class) But have been playing BLM and SMN lately, and don't see what all the fuss is about.. Sure there are a few things that might suck, but it's not as bad as the people in this thread make it out to be.... I'm a terrible player too so idk what everyones complaining about o_O (and no this isn't just over a few games.. I have quite a bit of games played overall..)

SMN is godlike due to all the instants that hit like a truck, as for BLM unless you are able to sleep everyone and freecast, you are pretty much just running for your life the whole match without putting out any dps.

Pvp is not only that who is doing biggest number of damage done there. SMN naturally have highest aoe damage since you can spread dots between different targets and blm have good control that you can make 3v4 situations. BLM can have benefits with those pillars and walls, you can sleep some1 that chasing you behind pillar/wall then opponent healer need run forward from the map for using esuna.

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Originally Posted by Deca

BLM and SMN are both incredible, when will people stop posting about this.

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I don't think you read my OP in full:

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Most of this is written from the perspective of a White Mage

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Scathing the healer while running from melee tends to be effective at making the healer heal themselves rather than their team, it won't pull large numbers, but at least you're doing something while running from the dogpile. Doesn't blow your mana in one shot either, kind of toying with the idea of going thm instead of blm, some of those defensive cds may make it worthwhile, can pick up the pvp int stat to make up the difference between thm and blm as far as int goes. The ancient magics (flare and freeze) really don't fit in to the way I play and manawall's cd is way too long. You still get manaward, firestarter, and all the other spells, except blm spells, in exchange for some defesive cds from maruder, gld, mnk, and lancer. The whole glass tiger thing doesn't work to well in Wolf's Den, need to hide in a zerg to make that work. I like thm in 30 and 40 cap, after I get more ilvl 70 gear level gld to 34, and maruder to 8 I can get do some testing and see how it performs.