Fenrir in FF14

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Originally Posted by Mattlex

Isn't that picture on the same page as the Crystal Tower Bosses? I can't remember exactly but if it is, I think it would be safe to assume Fenrir will appear in Crystal tower a some point.

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It is.

Also for those asking where its from, its from the official art book that came with the CE edition of the game.

It would be amazing if he was a primal that was able to be defeated by players then summoned by summoners. I don't know if it can happen in ARR though. XIV ARR summoners are more like wow warlocks not really Final Fantasy summoners.

Sadly I don't think he will appear as an Elder Primal after seeing Siren (who appeared in concept art at the same time as the Fenrir pic) get relegated to Pharos Sirius. If that's any indication as to where XIV is heading, then the people saying Fenrir will be in Amdapor Ruins will probably be correct. Lambs of Dalamud in Tamtara Deepcroft did have a "Dalamud"-esque magic ball going on. Fenrir would fit the role as "Menphina's Hound," which the moon itself is associated with Menphina and Dalamud (pre-descent) was described as Her Hound and the red tint was the Hound bathing in the blood of a Vile Fiend. So short answer, probably Amdapor Ruins and not playing an iconic role like Odin.

Summoner mount or GTFO :P

if SE implements FENRIR the wrong way i will rage :P , NO FATE (like odin ~~) , no lame dungeon boss , its fenrir for twelve´s sake.

as mount would be cool but i doubt it.....and since summoners use lol-egis , i guess wont see a fenrir egi (purple wolverine thats look retarded, no thanks, lol)

Primal is the only option left i guess :( ,or raid boss (CT?)

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

So what role do you think Fenrir will play in FF14...

- Normal Boss
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- Primal
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- Elder Primal

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Knowing this game... Mount ( > . > ;;;;;;;













Or minion... ( - . - ;

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Originally Posted by Sotek

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Menphina's Loyal hound was actually another name for Dalamud, Eorzea's main moon is known as Menphina (after the godess) It gained that name because the lesser moon was always seen close to the main moon looking like a loyal pet, so some people called it Menphina's Loyal Hound

http://xivwiki.com/Menphina (see the notes.)

But that's why the Lamb's of Dalamud are always linked with Menphina's loyal hound.

Oh and Plot twist the Wolf Pup minion is actually Fenrir Egi... Mind blown.

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Originally Posted by ninthfantasy

Summoner mount or GTFO :P

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I guess GTFO then, since that ruins pretty much everything about Fenrir lol, but then again, Yoshi really wants this to be more of a gene-standard MMORPG rather than a FF game.

Am I the only one who feels like everyone is over exaggerating on Fenrir, I mean that dumb wolf has had an okay back story in what? One FF game, maybe 2 if you count XI. What about Gilgamesh, who has been in almost all FF games, he deserves more than Fenrir >_>...

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Originally Posted by Radxen

Am I the only one who feels like everyone is over exaggerating on Fenrir, I mean that dumb wolf has had an okay back story in what? One FF game, maybe 2 if you count XI. What about Gilgamesh, who has been in almost all FF games, he deserves more than Fenrir >_>...

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We already have Gilgamech for Hildibrand Story Quest. No need to talk about him when I've already made a post about that long ago and his role being confirmed in FF14.

Besides Gilgamesh may be a reocurring character in Hildibrand Quest splitting into several different fights through Hildibrand Saga while serving as Hildibrand's Archrival.

Now we talk about something that we don't have as much info on which is Fenrir.

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Originally Posted by Radxen

Am I the only one who feels like everyone is over exaggerating on Fenrir, I mean that dumb wolf has had an okay back story in what? One FF game, maybe 2 if you count XI. What about Gilgamesh, who has been in almost all FF games, he deserves more than Fenrir >_>...

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Fenrir has been around awhile. You know who almost never had a true back story? Shiva, yet people "over exaggerate" wanting her.

Garuda? Ha, yeah her too.

Ramuh? Him too. FFIX and IV After Years are the only FF games with an actual "story" tied to him that had true plot relevance - He's "just a summon" and most FF games.

By your logic a lot of these summons shouldn't be in the game except for Bahamut since Bahamut is generally the only being with a true story anchor. So no one is 'over exaggerating", FFXI just happens to be a FF game that gave story and backstories to summons that usually never had them.

I really like the theory tying Fenrir as the one responsible for bringing destruction to the Amdapor civilization. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the summoning of Fenrir during the Crystal War of Final Fantasy XI what nearly destroyed the Windurst Federation? A nice correlation if anything.

And I love even more the idea of Fenrir relating to Menphina, my chosen deity, as he's been my favorite summon since XI. And I also believe Fenrir has been tied to the element of ice in the past, like Menphina. But then again, he has shifted elements frequently to my knowledge; representing wind, earth, and of course, darkness as well. So perhaps that isn't as crucial as I first thought.

While I think this has the making of amazing lore potential for Fenrir, I will be deeply sadden if he does not become summonable by Summoners, Egi or not. Forgive my XI nostalgia, but Fenrir was always my chosen side-kick for my many adventures. I've been looking forward to hopefully one day recreating those happy times in XIV, but understand this is a different game and respect the Producer's vision.

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Originally Posted by WellGramarye

It is.

Also for those asking where its from, its from the official art book that came with the CE edition of the game.

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

Iirc you could see this and many more concept arts on the old teaser site. I believe it also came out in a live letter pre 2.0

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

^ what he said

The art and info has been released to the public for a long time but not much info has gone beyond the release of his art and confirmation of his appearance in FF14.

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Thanks for the responses! And damn... now I really hate that I wasn't able to get a CE for this game. That's what I get for second guessing myself when I go to purchase something online ("well, maybe I could find it in a store..."*asks eb, gets told 'no', goes to order but orders are closed*"Ffffff").

Fenrir is definitely going to be in this game. There was already a 3D concept art of him made, along with Ramuh, Gilgamesh and others. Pics below

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/b...g/sqex-005.jpg

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/b...g/sqex-008.jpg

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/b...g/sqex-000.jpg

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/b...g/sqex-010.jpg

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Originally Posted by lunar_seraphim

I really like the theory tying Fenrir as the one responsible for bringing destruction to the Amdapor civilization. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the summoning of Fenrir during the Crystal War of Final Fantasy XI what nearly destroyed the Windurst Federation? A nice correlation if anything.

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On the contrary, Fenrir was the avatar that saved Windurst from the Yagudo invasion. Ajido-Marujido (I think his named was) summoned him right as the Yagudo were reaching the gates of The Federation. Fenrir's power was so strong that it took the life of the summoner in the ritual, but hey, on the bright side, because of his sacrifice we got to see Shantotto.

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Originally Posted by Jonny

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I almost forgotten about the 3d model of Fenrir. It has been so long since they last released any info about Fenrir only thing I remember is his basic concept art.

Also, ya I remember that Cloud of Darkness 3D model. Make me wonder how will we fight Cloud of Darkness when she is that big.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

I almost forgotten about the 3d model of Fenrir. It has been so long since they last released any info about Fenrir only thing I remember is his basic concept art.

Also, ya I remember that Cloud of Darkness 3D model. Make me wonder how will we fight Cloud of Darkness when she is that big.

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24 players...lots of AOE twitch mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Sotek

I'd still absolutely tie Fenrir with the Lambs of Dalamud though, can't really think of any of notable hounds in Final Fantasy tradition.

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You're an idiot, Sotek.

Cerberus. Pretty much every encounter with the Lambs of Dalamud also includes references to XIVs version of hell. That could free up Fenrir for absolutely anything else.

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Originally Posted by Sotek

You're an idiot, Sotek.

Cerberus. Pretty much every encounter with the Lambs of Dalamud also includes references to XIVs version of hell. That could free up Fenrir for absolutely anything else.

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I chuckled heartily.

FF games love to add just about every beast/hero/god/saint/faerie/spirit from actual mythologies as it can.

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

On the contrary, Fenrir was the avatar that saved Windurst from the Yagudo invasion. Ajido-Marujido (I think his named was) summoned him right as the Yagudo were reaching the gates of The Federation. Fenrir's power was so strong that it took the life of the summoner in the ritual, but hey, on the bright side, because of his sacrifice we got to see Shantotto.

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wrong !


http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Karaha-Baruha

it was karaha baruha that summoned fenrir and saved windurst :

"I heard the hero Karaha-Baruha's voice when he summoned that glorious beast.

"`You've done well in holding them off. Leave the rest to my servant, Fenrir,' he said.

"Yes! That great creature was called FENRIR! Fenrir... I haven't said that name in twenty years."

It is said that Karaha-Baruha gave his life to summon the enormous beast

His answer: "Why not? It is my life's work to let the world know the greatness of Karaha-Baruha.

here explains the whole story :D

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/An...ame_Was_Fenrir!

/kneel karaha-baruha

Ajido is a cool guy dont get me wrong (like all tarus!) plus was cute when he was a child <3 (Wotg expansion rocked just for that )

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ido%28S%29.png

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Originally Posted by Sotek

You're an idiot, Sotek.

Cerberus. Pretty much every encounter with the Lambs of Dalamud also includes references to XIVs version of hell. That could free up Fenrir for absolutely anything else.

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Or it could be a puppy version of Fenrir or Cerberus.

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Originally Posted by Demetirus

Thanks for the responses! And damn... now I really hate that I wasn't able to get a CE for this game. That's what I get for second guessing myself when I go to purchase something online ("well, maybe I could find it in a store..."*asks eb, gets told 'no', goes to order but orders are closed*"Ffffff").

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Creative Uncut has most of the concept art here:

Creative Uncut



Psst Cerebus is in Crystal Tower.

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__..._FFXIV_Art.jpg

Top to bottom/ left to right

Cloud of Darkness (top)
Xande (left)
Ahriman (right)
Amon (Left)
Cerebus (Right)
Scylla (Left)
Glasya Labolas (Right)
Archeron (Bottom)

Considering the lack of light/dark elements in this game (we merely have 'unaspected elemental damage'), I doubt he will be a normal primal... PROBABLY an Elder Primal, integral to the plotline (similar to Bahamut). I do not think summoners will ever have access to a Fenrir-Egi, mostly because of what I said regarding the elements... and also because we'll only get new Egis with the level cap increase, and there's already three elemental avatars we've yet to have access to. I could also see Fenrir being added as a FATE, although I hope he will have a stronger storyline than that.

That art looks the same as Fenrir from FF11. Fenfrir should be a summon and should be his original size just like Carbuncle was.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

That art looks the same as Fenrir from FF11. Fenfrir should be a summon and should be his original size just like Carbuncle was.

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shouldn't be a problem considering the dimensions of the mounts people are running around with.

http://i.imgur.com/8mX4ui4.png

It would be my belief that Fenrir (along with Belial and Bahamut) would probably end up in 'The Great Labyrinth of Bahamut' - the 24-man RAID that is supposed to be AFTER The Binding Coil. Either that or Fenrir could end up on one of the next floors of The Crystal Tower.

This being said, I would absolutely love the idea of them adding him as a Mount Drop like the Nightmare.

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

wrong !


http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Karaha-Baruha

it was karaha baruha that summoned fenrir and saved windurst..."

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Right. Wasn't sure about the name :) I greatly enjoyed Wings of The Goddess because of all the info it gave on these characters. I still remember the cutscene where Fenrir was summoned. Too bad I quit before the end of that expansion. Darn, it's been a long time...

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Originally Posted by Johnist

It would be my belief that Fenrir (along with Belial and Bahamut) would probably end up in 'The Great Labyrinth of Bahamut' - the 24-man RAID that is supposed to be AFTER The Binding Coil. Either that or Fenrir could end up on one of the next floors of The Crystal Tower.

This being said, I would absolutely love the idea of them adding him as a Mount Drop like the Nightmare.

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fenrir was never in CT.

if he is going to be in game, he will either be a FATE, a elder primal rivaling bahamut (with his own story), or a dungeon boss.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

I guess GTFO then, since that ruins pretty much everything about Fenrir lol, but then again, Yoshi really wants this to be more of a gene-standard MMORPG rather than a FF game.

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They made Behemoth an enemy and a mount, so surely they can do it with Fenrir too!


...I just want a cool Summoner-only mount ;_;

I was just browsing the booklet/art book that came with my collectorś ediction and noticed that FENRIR is listed under the section "enemies" not under the section "primals" where odin, bahamut, ifrit, shiva, leviathan, tita, garuda and ramuh are listed...

So.. seems (and it is dissapointing) that Fenrir has been reduced to either

A) A FATE BOSS
B) A dungeon boss

How sad

I'm thinking it'll be the final boss for the ice looking dungeon in the 2.4 patch.