2.15 Patch discussion

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

The difficulty of Thornmarch has been decreased. lmao really?! it was already 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000x easier than 1.0, now its even easier? jesus how easy do you people want this game.

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Actually, I thought the fight was really easy in 1.0 and found it to be slightly harder in ARR.

SMN in PvP got farked pretty hard. miasma + miasma II has been reduced to pretty much just another DOT and no more rez- Miasma is still functional but miasma II is pretty much garbage. I can't believe people were crying about this- you resurrect with so little HP 1 hit from anything will kill you. How could anyone find this OP? I understand (and expected) the miasma change, but they hit it harder than I expected. The change to reduce parties of 3 is odd, but I'll take it. It does reward bots, but it also rewards pretty much everyone else.

Even though it's just a technical update patch, there are a lot of good improvements in it. I for one am really happy about the GP recovery and retention.

WTB: Ability to re-lock Wanderer's palace and AK.

Maybe these so-called "pros" looking for challenges will be happy if SE introduces something along the lines of Pandemonium Warden or Absolute Virtue.

Who am I fooling? These posers wouldn't touch content like that if Yoshi paid them personally.

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Originally Posted by Hayward

Maybe these so-called "pros" looking for challenges will be happy if SE introduces something along the lines of Pandemonium Warden or Absolute Virtue.

Who am I fooling? These posers wouldn't touch content like that if Yoshi paid them personally.

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So much potential for a joke in here but I don't want to get banned again.

Just stop being silly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXnjLSQCDPM

Ifrit ex from 1.0 is so much harder than 2.0 Ifrit ex. >.>

Anything that was hard about ifrit ex from 1.0 was artificial. This being animation lock and lag. Mechanically and healing wise, 2.0 is a lot harder. I think the only thing that might be a bit harder in 1.0 is the dps check on the last set of nails.

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Originally Posted by Hayward

Maybe these so-called "pros" looking for challenges will be happy if SE introduces something along the lines of Pandemonium Warden or Absolute Virtue.

Who am I fooling? These posers wouldn't touch content like that if Yoshi paid them personally.

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And no I would never sit in front of my computer for hours on end fighting one boss. That's just foolish to think that time spent = difficulty.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

Decreasing the difficulty of an already easy fight. Nice one Square-Enix, now even an ant can play this game and succeed.

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I'll see you back here bent about Extreme version being too hard and demanding a nerf.

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Originally Posted by Aureliami

So much potential for a joke in here but I don't want to get banned again.

Just stop being silly.

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Yeah, it's far too easy to end up banned if you properly replied to his post lol.

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Originally Posted by Marishi-Ten

I'll see you back here bent about Extreme version being too hard and demanding a nerf.

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Irony in your statement is despite everything, no one has asked to nerf the Extreme Primals yet.

Where can I see the patch notes?

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Originally Posted by lorel

Where can I see the patch notes?

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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...ba39b67875a7af

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Originally Posted by Marishi-Ten

I'll see you back here bent about Extreme version being too hard and demanding a nerf.

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That's because they're still stuck on Titan HM demanding for a nerf! Just wait for that crew to get to titan ex.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Yeah, it's far too easy to end up banned if you properly replied to his post lol.



Irony in your statement is despite everything, no one has asked to nerf the Extreme Primals yet.

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Don't jinx it!

Watch tomorrow and there will be a 40 page thread about nerfing extreme modes.

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Originally Posted by Marishi-Ten

Don't jinx it!

Watch tomorrow and there will be a 40 page thread about nerfing extreme modes.

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People complain about Titan all the time. Though it's still mostly HM (sometimes EM), so I guess that's where they're stuck.
It'll probably be nerfed eventually.

I don't know about how easy Thornmarch is now. I felt it was pretty fun the way it was tuned.
Yoshida put it well saying it was between Garuda HM and Titan HM. Though, it honestly required more group coordination than either of those fights.
I guess we'll see post patch. At least, it'll make for a smoother weapon farm now.

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Originally Posted by Hayward

Maybe these so-called "pros" looking for challenges will be happy if SE introduces something along the lines of Pandemonium Warden or Absolute Virtue.

Who am I fooling? These posers wouldn't touch content like that if Yoshi paid them personally.

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Pandemonium Warden was bugged. That wasn't difficulty; that was stupidity. :p

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Originally Posted by Espon

If they made an exception for level 55-60 loot, people would start asking for exceptions to be made for level 70-90. We can't have that kind of level of individuality, we must all look the same.

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Actually, you can already dye ilvl55 gear, stuff that used to drop from WP (and now AK as well). That's what makes their "ilvl60 mask is bugged" announcement weird; why not just make everything dyeable?

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In battlecraft escort leves, emotes used to guide NPCs will now be effective from longer range. To preserve game balance in light of this, the difficulty of the following guildleves has been increased.

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Both of these are good. Because the hardest part of those quests was putting up with spamming the call command. The actual enemies where minor distractions, even at the most 'difficult'.

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Originally Posted by Espon

If they made an exception for level 55-60 loot, people would start asking for exceptions to be made for level 70-90. We can't have that kind of level of individuality, we must all look the same.

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It's called INNOVATION!

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Originally Posted by Hayward

Maybe these so-called "pros" looking for challenges will be happy if SE introduces something along the lines of Pandemonium Warden or Absolute Virtue.

Who am I fooling? These posers wouldn't touch content like that if Yoshi paid them personally.

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God that's all we need is people dying irl while fighting a boss for 12 hours. Isn't ffxiv's reputation messed up enough without adding something like that in?

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Originally Posted by Thriar

And no I would never sit in front of my computer for hours on end fighting one boss. That's just foolish to think that time spent = difficulty.

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You didn't fight AV if you thought it was a time spent = difficulty. PW only was because of the method people used to kill it. BLU zergs for the win I guess. I have to say I didn't envy their exp loss.

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- The population of beast tribe enemies has been increased.

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Here's hoping this doesn't make that "pumpkin bomb" daily even more frustrating than it already was.

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

Here's hoping this doesn't make that "pumpkin bomb" daily even more frustrating than it already was.

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We are so screwed....Pumpkin Bomb is still ok.

The Water Bringer one, there is this spot where you need to steal water from this sylph is located at a narrow path, with a Aggor sylph near it. No way to avoid it.

I'm beyond pissed about the nerf on Thornmarch. I haven't even had a chance to TRY the thing yet. I mean COME ON! you release a patch. It's during the holidays some have time to play and there's nothing wrong with that. But me? I was visiting family for 2 weeks. Come back happy as a clam to try out this new patch... but... I'm already seeing this content getting nerfed? I might not have a ton of time on my hands but I'm not some g*d d*mn farmville convert. I LIKE challenges. I LIKE seeing the freakin' content I'm paying for before it gets nerfed to the freaking GROUND. I'm mean christ it's been only 4 weeks since 2.1 released and the content is already receiving nerfs? *flips monitor*

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Originally Posted by Suellen

I'm beyond pissed about the nerf on Thornmarch. I haven't even had a chance to TRY the thing yet. I mean COME ON! you release a patch. It's during the holidays some have time to play and there's nothing wrong with that. But me? I was visiting family for 2 weeks. Come back happy as a clam to try out this new patch... but... I'm already seeing this content getting nerfed? I might not have a ton of time on my hands but I'm not some g*d d*mn farmville convert. I LIKE challenges. I LIKE seeing the freakin' content I'm paying for before it gets nerfed to the freaking GROUND. I'm mean christ it's been only 4 weeks since 2.1 released and the content is already receiving nerfs? *flips monitor*

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It takes about 1 hour to get to Thornmarch. You didn't have 1 hour of playtime in the last month?

To be perfectly fair the Thornmarch fight is more complicated than Ultima HM. Considering that people don't really farm Thornmarch for weapons like they do Ultima for accessories, it follows that there won't be the same amount of higher level players wanting to participate. Seems like it's simply a change to make it a bit easier to complete the content, because the initial influx of higher level players doing it has now subsided.

Mechanically, the fight for Thornmarch isn't too hard. However when I did try it for the first time(mind you, I had an average ilvl of 80ish), I did feel I was getting hit a bit harder than I should have been, considering the minimum ilvl requirement is 54. There were a few times where I felt that if I was using an ilvl of 54, that many attacks I got hit by, I would not have survived. In retrospect, it would've been interesting to test this, and run the fight with said ilvl, but alas, I cannot now. Personally though, the ilvl requirement felt a bit too low, and since it's a story mission, many players will need to finish it in order to unlock future content. On a brighter note, they can always make the extreme mode version far more difficult for side quests. As far as the nerf goes though, for all we know, the king and his little subjects just took a damage nerf, and sustained little to no mechanical changes.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

D: Why is 'Demagogue mask may be dyed to another color' in the Confirmed Bugs part? A few other (former) AK pieces could be dyed too... why can't we just dye all of them?

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dyed i60geared are buuged
http://puu.sh/5QzK8.jpg

SE: "Changes for PvP will only affect PvP!!! /bows"
PN: "Miasma/II also is nerfed for PvE"
ME: "Ugh~ I knew it -__-;"

But seriously, why did I knew that this nerf will hit my pve again!? If you hate this class so much, just remove it already!
The healing disease debuff was really situational to begin with but now it's worse than before.
I don't get why you have to nerf our PvE "utility" just because of PvP.

Anyone notice that repair prices seem to have skyrocketed again?

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Originally Posted by Zumi

It takes about 1 hour to get to Thornmarch. You didn't have 1 hour of playtime in the last month?

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Well I'm not psychic. I guess you are? I've been playing when I can and doing the content I felt like doing in the order I felt like doing it. Sorry for not realizing that thornmarch was the magical instance that would get the nerf hammer out of the tons of content that was released again only 4 weeks ago. I guess I should have known with all the talks of how incredibly hard it is.... oh wait.

Sorry for being snarky but I'm just so tired of this shit. Every mmo these days shuffles people along and if you don't play at their set paced you get screwed over. If you go too fast you get bored if you go too slow you get dumbed down snoresville content and get bored. I just want to see and attempt the content as the designers intended it. I don't see why I should be denied that.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

Decreasing the difficulty of an already easy fight. Nice one Square-Enix, now even an ant can play this game and succeed.

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Yeah, but to be fair it'd probably be one of those self-repeating, immortal franken-ants.

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* Players can only obtain one Dimension Blade fragment per week.

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I wonder if that's the same roll as for the gear or a separate one?

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When queuing to join a party in progress, the party's current progression will no longer be shown by the Duty Finder.

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Thank the Twelve.

Edit: Gah, it's only the Labyrinth of the Ancients! They should send the Tonberry Stalker after people who keep dropping out of the DF.

I consider the thornmarch nerf riddiculous. I one shotted this on my frist time with the fc, although dont remember how many of us were overgeared.

I can't log in to check things out yet, can somebody post pictures of the new face paint options please?

Where's my third retainer?

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Originally Posted by AmalahRose

I can't log in to check things out yet, can somebody post pictures of the new face paint options please?

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I can post some in a bit, but the only two I saw were freckles and eyebrow highlights.

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

I can post some in a bit, but the only two I saw were freckles and eyebrow highlights.

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Thank you. :)

Titan hard modes only problem is that if you make one mistake as a WHM your dead and so I'm stuck on it. The other two aren't that hard once you learn the battle. The main problem is that its a hurdle because its required for the relic quest.

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Originally Posted by AmalahRose

Thank you. :)

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http://i.imgur.com/izQlgS8l.jpg

Changed my hair so you can get a good look at the eyebrows. I was going to make a separate image, but I had a hard time making the freckles visible with my character's complexion.

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Was that DV like paint (first column, last row) always there, or was it added with 2.1/2.15?

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Originally Posted by Kyata

Was that DV like paint (first column, last row) always there, or was it added with 2.1/2.15?

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Fairly certain it was added in 2.1 or at least that's when I first noticed it. I don't believe we've always had it, but it was there before 2.15.

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Originally Posted by ArkAurelius

More like I dont understand. Can we gather without being a DoL now? GP resetting is more like a fix. Then again, I dont use DoLs so I dont know.

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If you changed from another disciples to disciples of land, you started at 0 GP and needed to wait until your GP builded up.
Now it can start at least with 400 GP (max. GP without GP equip)

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

http://i.imgur.com/izQlgS8l.jpg

Changed my hair so you can get a good look at the eyebrows. I was going to make a separate image, but I had a hard time making the freckles visible with my character's complexion.

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Now Highlanders can also have (painted) eyebrows ^^