Scholars are too good in pve and pvp soon

ty for the pvp strategy XD
thats one way to kill fairy :D
+1 WHM will win even in 4v4 becoz of regen
even if SCH have fairy they cant just place the fairy, and fairy cant cast while running

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Originally Posted by Impurrrsive

ty for the pvp strategy XD
thats one way to kill fairy :D
+1 WHM will win even in 4v4 becoz of regen
even if SCH have fairy they cant just place the fairy, and fairy cant cast while running

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I feel like you've never actually PvP'd before.

A single HoT isn't going to keep someone alive through being focused.

yep thats true 1 HoT cant save anything
healer will be the first to die tho if not careful
what i see in beta pvp, its all running around and sleep abuse to stop them
anyway i pvp in tera and aion
tera no cast so its quite easy, so this will be mostly same as aion

the skill pvp in 2.1 will be different than the current skill
no need to start a war now XD

Ah yes. Sleep i forgot about that. Though i can probublu say pvp gear might have some debuff resistance, or they might lower the sleep time, if not then blm and whm would just completely destroy pvp

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Originally Posted by o3o

Ah yes. Sleep i forgot about that. Though i can probublu say pvp gear might have some debuff resistance, or they might lower the sleep time, if not then blm and whm would just completely destroy pvp

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Remember it breaks as soon as someone deals new damage to it. Sure, DoTs don't break it, but any new application of DoTs will.

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Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper

Remember it breaks as soon as someone deals new damage to it. Sure, DoTs don't break it, but any new application of DoTs will.

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it does not work like that, they repose other members and kill the healer first
thats how they use repose in pvp

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Originally Posted by Impurrrsive

it does not work like that, they repose other members and kill the healer first
thats how they use repose in pvp

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Then the healer dispels the repose as it goes out. It's a really long cast.

u'll see how fast healer will die if they add other disabling mechanism
plus paladin can pull in pvp
i think monk or bard will be the healer killer

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Originally Posted by Impurrrsive

u'll see how fast healer will die if they add other disabling mechanism
plus paladin can pull in pvp
i think monk or bard will be the healer killer

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I'm not saying that healers won't be bait. The bulk of my PvP experience has been in WoW, and trust me - healers were always bait. There's also going to be the lag time where healers will have to adapt to not panicking when they are focused. It helps that there are far fewer interrupts (and they're on longer CDs).

We also have no idea whether PvP will work like XI. XI is the only game I know of where a Paladin can force someone to attack him for a number of seconds. That simply doesn't work in other games I've PvP'd in.

Once in a while I get tired of DPS roles forums, since everyone rags on each other, and it gets tiring to see the 5 groups of people fighting about who does better in what situation. Then I come on these forums, and laugh because goddamn y'all go harder then them.

Most of the "Sch is OP" seems to revolve around Turn 5, as Turn 5 is obviously the entire game. I have not heal Turn 5 so I can't really comment much on it but I've seen many Whms who claim to be able to MT heal it just fine. Did Turn 1-4 with double Sch? Guess what? You can do that with double Whm too, shocking right? I seriously doubt anyone can solo heal Caduceus. Whm do leave Sch so far in the dust in WP runs though, that its not even funny.

Can't really comment on PvP, as its not even out yet and there's too little info to go on.

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Originally Posted by PenutButter

I seriously doubt anyone can solo heal Caduceus.

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It's been done, and can be done with either healing class.

Can be done easily one of two ways. Either:
1. Let the 2 snakes re-join then just kite him around the arena.
2. Do the fight as it was probably originally intended and continue to feed slimes to both snakes after the split. The damage they do to your tanks with no stacks and the determination debuff is pretty laughable.

Or just do it like it's typically done. That extra DPS in the group makes a huge difference. Well played tanks using cooldowns appropriately, raid members not taking needless damage, and cycling Virus/E4E/RoF properly all make it pretty trivial.